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Why would religious believers have so much of a problem with non-believers? Politics!
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Edited on Sat Dec-10-11 06:01 PM by MarkCharles
If people who believe in a supernatural "creator" or "lord" or "God", or force find themselves in a most comfortable place because of their beliefs, why would they find the need to dishonor or disgrace or even to challenge those who have not arrived at their level of belief?

Simple: the same applies to people who are liberal Democrats, who find a problem with Republicans. RIGHT?

Or do I have that backwards? Don't Republicans have more of a problem with logical thinking empathetic Democrats trying to get youth and elderly and minority Americans to vote? Don't Republicans find it more of a problem for people to be thinking freely and skeptically about the banks, the insurance companies, the major "believers" in capitalism?

Democrats, at the end of the day, can go to sleep, knowing that they stand on a solid ground, have evidence for their political persuasions, have more facts and history on their side. Republicans tend to want to believe in their own mythology, rich people deserve to be rich because rich people said so.

Republicans, in their fearful frenzy, work to restrict the rights of some Americans to vote, work to stalemate a Congress when the economic fate of the world depends upon more Americans becoming employed consumers. Republicans want to stick their monkey-wrench in the works, want to stop their supporters from hearing the whole story.

Now let's look at religious believers, where do THEY want to stop science? Where do THEY get all their panties in a wad when we discuss the astrophysical probability of how the Universe came about? Where do many of these believers spend their lives trying to censor the scientific concepts of evolution? Where do some of these religious believers actually show up with placards, (or worse, with guns) trying to inhibit a woman's right to control her own body? We don't see atheists lining up in abortion protests. We don't see atheists insisting that their ideas be part of high school teaching. We don't see atheists insisting that teens be kept out of the morning after pill buying line. The only folks in favor of censorship, in favor of restriction of rights, in favor of limiting freedom of thought and expression... the only ones we see there are the religious believers.


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  -Why would religious believers have so much of a problem with non-believers? Politics! MarkCharles  Dec-10-11 05:37 PM   #0 
  - Good question.  elleng   Dec-10-11 05:39 PM   #1 
  - Because they don't like doubt brought to there fantasy.  sarcasmo   Dec-10-11 05:52 PM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-10-11 05:56 PM   #3 
  - So you don't know what satire and irony is? That's YOUR excuse?  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 06:05 PM   #6 
     - Look at the replies - nobody thought it was satire or irony.  bananas   Dec-10-11 06:10 PM   #7 
     -'s NOT! But what you quoted (from another thread) was.  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 06:22 PM   #10 
        - Nope - read the replies - nobody thought it was satire or irony - because it wasn't.  bananas   Dec-10-11 06:36 PM   #15 
     - "The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer" - Einstein  bananas   Dec-10-11 06:24 PM   #11 
        - Define bigotry, Miss Banana Einstein. Does it have to do with  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 06:28 PM   #12 
           - It was Albert Einstein, not Bananas Einstein, and he had a lot more to say.  bananas   Dec-10-11 06:45 PM   #18 
              - Albert Einstein is the most abused person the quote game has ever victimized.  darkstar3   Dec-10-11 06:49 PM   #21 
                 - I love how the religious believers think their intellectual caliber is equal to the  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 06:54 PM   #23 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-10-11 06:03 PM   #4 
  - Um, well? As I see it, there are by far more atheists on DU complaining about religion  humblebum   Dec-10-11 06:04 PM   #5 
  - Message fatigue.  darkstar3   Dec-10-11 06:15 PM   #8 
  - If you failed to miss the millions of times believers have bullied, cajoled, threatened  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 06:17 PM   #9 
     - So, if I refer to the actions of certain atheists over the past century, it's  humblebum   Dec-10-11 06:30 PM   #13 
        - Actually it's treated as exactly what it is, reinterpreting and misappropriating history.  darkstar3   Dec-10-11 06:34 PM   #14 
           - Stop playing word games and be specific. I can make the same claims  humblebum   Dec-10-11 06:38 PM   #16 
              - Did you just type "stop playing word games" without any sense of irony?  darkstar3   Dec-10-11 06:43 PM   #17 
                 - I'll just answer that question as I did an earlier one of yours:  humblebum   Dec-10-11 06:46 PM   #19 
                 - ROFL. way over some people's heads  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 06:48 PM   #20 
                    - Since it was only in response to a single person, it really doesn't matter  humblebum   Dec-10-11 06:52 PM   #22 
                       - Yeah, like my earlier thread where I quoted Santorum wanting to get science out of  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 06:56 PM   #24 
                          - Don't even try to link me to Santorum. The man is a joke, even to  humblebum   Dec-10-11 06:59 PM   #25 
                             - O T H  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 07:06 PM   #27 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-10-11 07:40 PM   #33 
                                - deleted  humblebum   Dec-10-11 08:04 PM   #35 
  - A skeleton in a Santa Suit on a cross... really, how is that..  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 07:03 PM   #26 
  - I guess your categorical caricature of "believers"  Thats my opinion   Dec-10-11 07:22 PM   # 
  - So you have a problem with non-believers  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 07:30 PM   #29 
  - YOU are accusing others of shortsightedness?  darkstar3   Dec-10-11 07:31 PM   #30 
  - You're very adept at the No True Scotsman game  NMMNG   Dec-10-11 07:39 PM   #32 
     - Part and parcel of religious beliefs, as you well know, is to ...  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 07:51 PM   #34 
  - I guess your categorical caricature of "believers"  Thats my opinion   Dec-10-11 07:22 PM   #28 
     - Use the EDIT option, unless you  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 07:37 PM   #31 
        - You have finally played your hand here buddy with that statement:  humblebum   Dec-10-11 08:22 PM   #36 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-10-11 08:32 PM   #37 
              - Never did I say that, nor imply it, and my comment was directed solely  humblebum   Dec-10-11 08:39 PM   #38 
                 - So these words you posted mean what?  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 08:48 PM   #39 
                    - Like I said I never did I say, nor imply, that an atheist cannot be ethical or moral.  humblebum   Dec-10-11 08:59 PM   #40 
                       - So hard as this is for you to believe, I am not in the SLIGHTEST offended by your  MarkCharles   Dec-10-11 09:03 PM   #41 
                          - You are making statements about things that I have said or suggested  humblebum   Dec-10-11 09:16 PM   #42 

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