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Charlemagne Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 09:52 PM
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Why cant religion be a private matter in the US?
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We all know the facts and can quote chapter and verse from religious texts and the Constitution that say either:

1. Pray and worship in private and dont be a dick about it
2. Hey you cant force people to believe in anything, lets just have laws that are acceptable and have nothing to do with religion of any kind.

Yet, the a majority (or very large and vocal minority) demand that everyone bend to their religious beliefs and profess as such on a constant basis. They demand that politicians, at all levels, be more devout than a minister. They demand that stores celebrate a particular religion AND celebrate it in a particular way.

I thought, by their rhetoric, these were the people of free market capitalism without government intervention. I thought these were the people that believed in individual responsibility and rugged individualism.

Yet, they demand that everything and everyone carry themselves like church on sunday.

Why cant we just let people believe what they want; let stores sell/market what they want; and make sure politicians profess faith in the law instead of a god?

I was born in 82 so, to me, this is how America has always been. Ive read that it didnt get this bad until the 70s and 80s. Is that the case? And if so, how do we go back?
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  -Why cant religion be a private matter in the US? Charlemagne  Dec-08-11 09:52 PM   #0 
  - There's a lot of territory between keeping it private and gonernment support.  rug   Dec-08-11 09:55 PM   #1 
  - Perry  Charlemagne   Dec-08-11 10:00 PM   #5 
     - There's no reason to confine religious belief behind closed doors to prevent that.  rug   Dec-08-11 10:03 PM   #6 
  - What's a large minority? (Other than an oxymoron)  virgogal   Dec-08-11 09:56 PM   #2 
  - Not really  Charlemagne   Dec-08-11 09:58 PM   #4 
  - Yes, that's the case  haikugal   Dec-08-11 09:56 PM   #3 
  - Very good question. I think it became a lot more prevalent with the  RKP5637   Dec-08-11 10:11 PM   #7 
  - I think it should be, but there is a lot of power to be had  johnd83   Dec-08-11 10:18 PM   #8 
  - Evangelical Christians demand both converts and martyrs.  Warpy   Dec-08-11 10:31 PM   #9 
  - Because religions are partly about petty tribalism.  laconicsax   Dec-08-11 10:34 PM   #10 
  - Because republicans need something to get people to vote against their best interests...  Salviati   Dec-08-11 10:37 PM   #11 
  - Because believers require social rewards in order to believe.  patrice   Dec-08-11 10:53 PM   #12 
  - One element is the willingness to believe that the United States  Adsos Letter   Dec-08-11 10:56 PM   #13 
  - Mind control and control of the masses  no_hypocrisy   Dec-09-11 06:00 AM   #14 
  - Excellent analysis IMO! n/t  RKP5637   Dec-09-11 03:21 PM   #21 
  - The Abrahamic religions are inheirently authoritarian.  Odin2005   Dec-09-11 08:16 AM   #15 
  - It was less blatant before the Reagan administration, when the Republicans  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-09-11 12:54 PM   #16 
  - The founding fathers  Thats my opinion   Dec-09-11 01:03 PM   #17 
  - And exactly what are "religious ethics"?  skepticscott   Dec-09-11 07:13 PM   #23 
  - Regular old ethics attributed to the dictates of a deity, and often entrenched for far too long.  darkstar3   Dec-09-11 07:22 PM   #25 
  - What are these "religious ethics" and how are they not secular?  laconicsax   Dec-09-11 08:10 PM   #28 
  - Don't hold your breath while waiting for an answer to that n/t  NMMNG   Dec-10-11 01:02 AM   #30 
     - What's more, I don't know whether he has me on ignore! n/t  laconicsax   Dec-10-11 01:07 AM   #31 
  - You claim over and over  skepticscott   Dec-10-11 06:38 AM   #32 
  - Because the free expression of speech and ideas is a right. No other explanation needed.  humblebum   Dec-09-11 01:09 PM   #18 
  - Of course it's a right.  JoeyT   Dec-09-11 03:11 PM   #20 
  - Rebuttal is also a right. nt  humblebum   Dec-09-11 08:09 PM   #27 
  - There are plenty of ways to exercise your right to free speech  darkstar3   Dec-09-11 07:21 PM   #24 
     - Have a nice trip. nt  humblebum   Dec-09-11 08:08 PM   #26 
  - Salvation religions promote conversion as a tenent of faith.  Deep13   Dec-09-11 01:30 PM   #19 
  - But enshrining the winning of converts into law  Thats my opinion   Dec-09-11 04:53 PM   #22 
     - Sure, but ultimately the Constitution means what people think it means.  Deep13   Dec-10-11 10:56 PM   #33 
  - "Ive read that it didnt get this bad until the 70s and 80s." - Teaching  humblebum   Dec-10-11 12:35 AM   #29 

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