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Wed Dec-07-11 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #69 |
| 70. What's not to understand? That certain atheists here use isolated |
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events involving religion and religious to rationalize broad-brush attacks on an entire group? And, this coming from one of the premiere radical atheists on DU. LOLOLOLOL!!!
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| -Atheist display: Skeleton Santa nailed to a cross |
rug |
Dec-06-11 11:04 AM |
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I don't think that was the way to win hearts and minds. However... |
Ian David |
Dec-06-11 11:07 AM |
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I just don't understand the need to do this... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-06-11 11:11 AM |
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I agree! |
murray hill farm |
Dec-06-11 11:15 AM |
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I have to agree. Traumatizing little kids is just not a smooth move and |
MADem |
Dec-06-11 11:23 AM |
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I agree. At best this will alienate public opinion. - n/t |
Jim__ |
Dec-06-11 11:29 AM |
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Being in the closet and remaining quiet has worked so well to this point? |
trotsky |
Dec-06-11 12:15 PM |
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Becoming as bad or worse as that which you disdain will work, why? |
hlthe2b |
Dec-06-11 01:04 PM |
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"to the extent it does not trample on the rights, health, or safety of others" |
trotsky |
Dec-06-11 01:42 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Dec-06-11 02:14 PM |
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Hate speech is hate speech whether it is free speech or not. It is quite obvious |
humblebum |
Dec-07-11 06:49 AM |
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You have no right to not be offended. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-07-11 03:04 PM |
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I think you can do better than that. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-07-11 10:30 PM |
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Again, you make no sense. The fact remains that you have no right to not be offended. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-08-11 08:58 AM |
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And you equally have no right not to be offended, nor to be automatically accepted. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-08-11 09:59 AM |
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I never claimed that right, but you sure did, and it's not your right to not be offended. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-09-11 01:17 AM |
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When and where did I make such a claim? Just more deceptive blather. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-09-11 02:37 AM |
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You have no right to not be offended. I'm glad we agree on that. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-09-11 10:03 AM |
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So does that hold true for anyone in all cases, or just as you so decide?nt. |
humblebum |
Dec-09-11 10:37 AM |
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You have no right to not be offended. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-09-11 10:44 AM |
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I realize the tough questions require exercising the grey matter, so I won't |
humblebum |
Dec-09-11 10:57 AM |
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Yeah, thats what I said, you have no right to not be offended. Glad we agree. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-09-11 10:58 AM |
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It is such a great load lifted off of my shoulders to finally realize that it's OK |
humblebum |
Dec-09-11 12:00 PM |
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Using that "other way of knowing" again? All I said was you have no right to not be offended. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-09-11 01:36 PM |
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I would try "bait" you into an argument, but you have none. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-09-11 01:55 PM |
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You have no right to not be offended. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-09-11 02:48 PM |
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But, I always approach an argument with the expectation of an attempt being made to offend. |
humblebum |
Dec-09-11 03:20 PM |
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You have no right to not be offended |
cleanhippie |
Dec-09-11 04:11 PM |
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What's funny is that while you're busy doing your parrot imitation, you |
humblebum |
Dec-10-11 01:04 AM |
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You have no right to not be offended. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-10-11 08:54 AM |
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You have no right to not be offended. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-10-11 12:24 PM |
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Yeah, thats exactly what I have been saying. Glad we agree. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-10-11 01:49 PM |
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You have no right to not be offended. Go ahead, it's your turn. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-10-11 01:52 PM |
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Its not my turn, thats exactly what I stated at the start. You have no right not to be offended. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-10-11 04:00 PM |
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You also made the claim that I claimed the right to not be offended. |
humblebum |
Dec-10-11 04:28 PM |
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So in other words you start with a self-fulfilling prophecy |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-10-11 12:52 PM |
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Its funny how everyone can see that but him. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-10-11 01:48 PM |
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You still avoid pointing out where I ever made such an implication. |
humblebum |
Dec-10-11 01:54 PM |
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I have no right to not be offended. |
humblebum |
Dec-10-11 01:53 PM |
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The only rights that I claim... |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-10-11 12:58 PM |
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It's not a matter of staying in the closet. |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-10-11 12:41 PM |
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Really, are you respectful of those who practice FGM? How about honor killings... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-06-11 12:37 PM |
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No, it is a bastardization of Islam, as true Muslims will tell you. |
hlthe2b |
Dec-06-11 01:02 PM |
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The people doing the honor killings think they're True Muslims too. n/t |
trotsky |
Dec-06-11 01:43 PM |
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One can say that of many who use some excuse to commit evil deeds... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-06-11 02:15 PM |
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One can say that. |
trotsky |
Dec-07-11 06:39 AM |
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How do you tell false Muslims from true ones? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-06-11 03:37 PM |
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When you have actually read the Koran, you can ask that. |
hlthe2b |
Dec-06-11 05:38 PM |
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Uhn, to be frank, I don't care where their beliefs come from, they are still wrong. n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-06-11 06:38 PM |
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Except that I don't care if people are false or true Muslims |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-10-11 01:04 PM |
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Busted. Now they know that Halloween is our OTHER favorite holiday. nt |
DCKit |
Dec-06-11 11:12 AM |
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So can we do this with any mythologized person, or just Santa? |
saras |
Dec-06-11 11:34 AM |
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Each of those examples are free (read: protected) speech. n/t |
laconicsax |
Dec-06-11 11:37 AM |
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That's just stupid. "Let's see how we can get MORE people to hate us." |
Speck Tater |
Dec-06-11 11:47 AM |
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"Let's see how we can get MORE people to hate us." |
trotsky |
Dec-06-11 12:28 PM |
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There was nothing inherently offensive about pride parades. |
Speck Tater |
Dec-06-11 12:37 PM |
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To many people indeed there was something offensive about PRIDE parades. |
trotsky |
Dec-06-11 12:42 PM |
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You can't say that, "offensive" is subjective |
deacon_sephiroth |
Dec-07-11 09:38 AM |
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This is certainly not an isolated incident. Such actions are becoming more common. |
humblebum |
Dec-06-11 12:10 PM |
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Have you checked out the video of hundreds of children being indoctrinated in |
MarkCharles |
Dec-06-11 12:28 PM |
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Dear Mr. Pot, I guess it's a matter of perspective. |
humblebum |
Dec-06-11 12:47 PM |
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So if a majority of people are OKAY with a skeleton on Halloween but |
MarkCharles |
Dec-06-11 12:54 PM |
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I think you know the meaning of vacuous argument. And red herring. |
humblebum |
Dec-06-11 12:58 PM |
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I think you do too, as you have demonstrated that with your OP. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-06-11 01:48 PM |
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Yep, two rogues who might be atheists put up a skeleton Santa on a cross, and.. |
MarkCharles |
Dec-06-11 02:04 PM |
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It is what it is. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-06-11 03:49 PM |
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Why are you always so dishonest about things that I have said? |
humblebum |
Dec-06-11 05:52 PM |
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Not sure what they are going for there |
dmallind |
Dec-06-11 01:25 PM |
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Well, I thought it was funny. |
Iggo |
Dec-06-11 02:37 PM |
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I'm sorry, that's just funny |
Taverner |
Dec-06-11 04:21 PM |
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Suuuuure. The people who did this want to "debase Christmas". |
darkstar3 |
Dec-06-11 06:20 PM |
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"pointing out the absurdity of putting holiday decorations on government property." |
humblebum |
Dec-06-11 06:34 PM |
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Religious decorations, holiday-based or not, do not belong on government property. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-06-11 06:48 PM |
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Tell that to the US Senate. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-06-11 07:25 PM |
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Oh please, like the Senate can't do, and hasn't done, something unconstitutional. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-06-11 07:51 PM |
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Unconstitutional in your book, which is not always the consensus opinion.nt |
humblebum |
Dec-06-11 10:03 PM |
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Baseless opinion is worthless in a discussion about fact. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-06-11 10:09 PM |
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So the fact that OJ was found innocent negates any opinions to the contrary? |
humblebum |
Dec-06-11 10:48 PM |
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Where criminal law is concerned, it most certainly does. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-06-11 10:54 PM |
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Don't look now, but the varying opinions still exist. Though he can no longer be tried |
humblebum |
Dec-06-11 11:25 PM |
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And that matters...how? |
darkstar3 |
Dec-06-11 11:30 PM |
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"From the perspective of the law, he's innocent" - but that isn't the only |
humblebum |
Dec-07-11 11:44 AM |
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Civil court has a MUCH lower standard burden of proof. |
Goblinmonger |
Dec-07-11 02:01 PM |
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And the court room was decorated in cherry wood, too. |
humblebum |
Dec-07-11 02:22 PM |
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It seems facts just get in the way. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-07-11 09:48 PM |
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OJ was found "Not Guilty." He was NOT found "innocent." |
Goblinmonger |
Dec-07-11 02:00 PM |
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Point taken, but not germane to this argument. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-07-11 02:21 PM |
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It's tacky |
NMMNG |
Dec-06-11 06:22 PM |
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There's probably a button on the lighting controls for that tree... |
Silent3 |
Dec-06-11 10:46 PM |
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Real flames would be better |
NMMNG |
Dec-07-11 06:57 PM |
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It's much worse than |
frogmarch |
Dec-06-11 06:40 PM |
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NOVA Atheists needs to ponder coherent message delivery |
struggle4progress |
Dec-06-11 10:15 PM |
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Sounds like the proper file. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-06-11 10:26 PM |
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NOVA Atheists didn't put up the display. |
trotsky |
Dec-07-11 06:30 AM |
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Jonathan Weintraub of the NOVA Atheists is all over the media about this: |
struggle4progress |
Dec-07-11 08:03 AM |
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Yet NOVA Atheists didn't put up the display. |
trotsky |
Dec-07-11 08:15 AM |
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Come now, there's no reason to read an entire article before one |
MarkCharles |
Dec-07-11 11:55 AM |
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There's a super-special hypocrisy going on too... |
trotsky |
Dec-07-11 12:44 PM |
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Yes, I agree. and atheists do that here on a regular basis. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-07-11 01:45 PM |
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They DO WHAT? They don't read through mis-statements of fact and... |
MarkCharles |
Dec-07-11 02:11 PM |
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How about hundreds and thousands going back to 2001. Don't be absurd. nt |
humblebum |
Dec-07-11 02:26 PM |
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Unfortunate for you that you do NOT understand the challenge and... |
MarkCharles |
Dec-07-11 02:49 PM |
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What's not to understand? That certain atheists here use isolated |
humblebum |
Dec-07-11 03:01 PM |
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Free Speech is, well, free. |
jeepnstein |
Dec-07-11 08:20 AM |
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Oh my Gawd, they killed Jack Skellington! |
beam me up scottie |
Dec-09-11 11:12 AM |
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While it did get approved |
WolverineDG |
Dec-10-11 12:48 PM |
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That is pretty interesting commentary on today's consumer-based Christmas. |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-10-11 03:14 PM |
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