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Response to Reply #166
168. Hopefully your beliefs will eventually be marginalized to the fringes of society where they belong.
And die the slow death of neglect.
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  -You want to see a hard core Red State wedding? bluestateguy  Dec-02-11 09:29 PM   #0 
  - The last family wedding I attended in San Francisco  EFerrari   Dec-02-11 09:32 PM   #1 
  - I've never seen that happen at a Catholic wedding  dflprincess   Dec-02-11 11:19 PM   #19 
     - Me, either and ditto. Lots of them.  EFerrari   Dec-03-11 07:34 AM   #24 
     - I'm Mediterranean...  a la izquierda   Dec-03-11 12:33 PM   #52 
  - First United Church of Cartman?  musette_sf   Dec-02-11 09:33 PM   #2 
  - Respect my Authoritaah ...  UndertheOcean   Dec-02-11 09:33 PM   #3 
  - "Submit to his authority"?  TheWraith   Dec-02-11 09:34 PM   #4 
  - A bondage wedding no doubt! n/t  RKP5637   Dec-02-11 09:40 PM   #8 
  - When Donna and I got married, I printed her immortal words on the invitations.  hobbit709   Dec-03-11 07:51 AM   #27 
  - So that's what the "sanctity of marriage" argument is really about...  begin_within   Dec-03-11 07:00 PM   #91 
  - As fundie weddings go I've seen worse. We're talking dowries. Long speeches about the bride's intact  LeftyMom   Dec-02-11 09:36 PM   #5 
  - A lot of times the pastor will get in a pot shot or two about gay marriage  bluestateguy   Dec-02-11 09:40 PM   #7 
  - Some fundies are just having religious ceremonies but no civil marriage,  LeftyMom   Dec-02-11 09:47 PM   #12 
  - Bride price is still done in some circles  XemaSab   Dec-02-11 10:07 PM   #14 
     - Wedding coins -- arras  Capitalocracy   Dec-03-11 01:13 PM   #62 
  - Held on the auction platform at the county fairground ring a bell?  XemaSab   Dec-02-11 10:05 PM   #13 
  - At least that one looked almost fun. The other one looked dismal.  LeftyMom   Dec-02-11 10:30 PM   #18 
     - Which is more dismal?  XemaSab   Dec-02-11 11:20 PM   #20 
  - Doweries? DOWERIES??? Ye Gods!!!  Odin2005   Dec-03-11 01:14 PM   #64 
  - Yet another WTF moment. n/t  RKP5637   Dec-02-11 09:39 PM   #6 
  - I love romantic weddings, but I ABHOR patriarchal bullshit. These people make me puke in my mouth  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-02-11 09:42 PM   #9 
  - Respect my Authoritah!  MrMickeysMom   Dec-02-11 09:45 PM   #10 
  - I got through 1:20 before I started feeling ill  The Genealogist   Dec-02-11 09:46 PM   #11 
  - It really gets kinda mind numbing, doesn't it. What authoritarian crap IMO. n/t  RKP5637   Dec-02-11 10:11 PM   #15 
  - It is mind numbing, sickening, and I find myself sad too  The Genealogist   Dec-02-11 11:28 PM   #22 
  - Me too, I couldn't watch whole thing, especially when he started singing. n/t  RebelOne   Dec-03-11 10:26 AM   #38 
  - Had a friend who got married years ago and I went to his wedding in a Baptist church  Harry Monroe   Dec-02-11 10:19 PM   #16 
  - The younguns convinced Ma & Pa that they never even shared a kiss before they were wed.  Contrary1   Dec-02-11 10:21 PM   #17 
  - I believe these two...  Cid_B   Dec-03-11 08:42 AM   #32 
  - "creepy" is the first word that comes to mind  Terra Alta   Dec-02-11 11:25 PM   #21 
  - Not Even Close  ChoppinBroccoli   Dec-02-11 11:29 PM   #23 
  - allowing god to determine the size of your family?!  JanMichael   Dec-03-11 07:44 AM   #25 
  - Been there, done that..  Fumesucker   Dec-03-11 07:47 AM   #26 
  - Ugh  NMMNG   Dec-03-11 08:07 AM   #28 
  - If this had been a real Red State Weddin', they'd have been at least 1 exorcism or faith healing  kenny blankenship   Dec-03-11 08:12 AM   #29 
  - wow...ANOTHER DU thread full of mockery  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 08:17 AM   #30 
  - Yep! I love mocking religions.  Quantess   Dec-03-11 08:39 AM   #31 
  - here:  Gabi Hayes   Dec-03-11 09:11 AM   #34 
  - omg,  JanMichael   Dec-03-11 10:32 AM   #39 
  - the tolerance on display on this board  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 09:29 AM   #35 
  - The thread is mocking misogyny  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-03-11 10:07 AM   #36 
  - i disagree with the target of mockery  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 10:12 AM   #37 
     - Then you are making excuses for misogyny, and you are part of the problem  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-03-11 10:56 AM   #43 
     - biblical submission is about as far from misogyny as you can get  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 11:09 AM   #45 
        - "the man must submit first" - nothing about that in those vows  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-03-11 11:43 AM   #46 
        - yes, there is...it is the core of submission  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 11:51 AM   #47 
           - But you yourself mentioned the hierarchy... the man must submit to Christ, but the woman...  Capitalocracy   Dec-03-11 11:58 AM   #48 
              - but the point is, if the man is in submission to Christ  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 12:23 PM   #50 
                 - the point is, if you spent as much time living in the real world as you apparently have wallowing  Gabi Hayes   Dec-03-11 12:28 PM   #51 
                 - + 1000  PassingFair   Dec-03-11 12:40 PM   #53 
                 - you're right...it's not biblical at all...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 12:56 PM   #56 
                    - Why do you think your views deserve special treatment  EvolveOrConvolve   Dec-03-11 09:09 PM   #97 
                       - i don't think MY views should be shielded from mockery  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 11:24 PM   #99 
                          - Your initial post in this thread was  EvolveOrConvolve   Dec-04-11 01:21 AM   #108 
                             - you obviously failed to read my post...because my answer is there n/t  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 07:56 AM   #115 
                                - Your post contradicts your earlier sentiments  EvolveOrConvolve   Dec-04-11 11:21 AM   #171 
                 - Consensus is hard to reach, but it can be done without one person being officially in charge.  Capitalocracy   Dec-03-11 12:41 PM   #54 
                 - hey, I'm glad you disagree  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 01:05 PM   #58 
                 - I put the wants and needs of my family first.  PassingFair   Dec-03-11 01:00 PM   #57 
                 - I think you misread what I struggle with...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 01:10 PM   #59 
                    - Sorry to keep challenging you on this...  Capitalocracy   Dec-03-11 01:17 PM   #66 
                    - you know, that is a really good question  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 01:25 PM   #69 
                       - If it's seriously 50-50, I prefer a coin toss to the male having the authority to break the tie. nt  Capitalocracy   Dec-03-11 03:19 PM   #82 
                          - fair enough...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 11:25 PM   #100 
                             - Or you could take turns.  Capitalocracy   Dec-04-11 01:24 AM   #109 
                                - i can see that... n/t  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 07:57 AM   #117 
                    - What is it that "Christ" would have you do that you are not naturally inclined to do?  PassingFair   Dec-03-11 01:17 PM   #67 
                    - there are many things that i think intelligent and good-hearted people  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 01:32 PM   #70 
                       - I am even tempered and loving by nature. I don't struggle with it.  PassingFair   Dec-03-11 01:39 PM   #73 
                          - don't be sorry for my wife...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 01:46 PM   #75 
                             - Your "struggles". nt  PassingFair   Dec-03-11 01:48 PM   #76 
                                - my struggles give you reason to believe  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 01:51 PM   #77 
                                - Just that I find it EASY to be good without god.  PassingFair   Dec-03-11 01:59 PM   #78 
                                - that makes you a better person than i am...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 02:01 PM   #79 
                                - I am a product of an atheist father and an Episcopalian that believes ...  PassingFair   Dec-03-11 02:08 PM   #80 
                                - You know, I find it hard to believe that you never "struggle" to be a good person  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-03-11 06:58 PM   #90 
                                - You don't know ME, that's certain.  PassingFair   Dec-03-11 07:37 PM   #93 
                                - OK, seriously, how does this "struggle" take place?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 07:54 AM   #114 
                                - the struggle is to continuously improve myself  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:06 AM   #118 
                                - See, when you say "conform to the image of Christ" I really don't call him an example of a good...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 08:12 AM   #120 
                                - you seem to miss the parts  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:37 AM   #130 
                                - Nothing should trump the love we have for our fellow human beings.  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 08:43 AM   #135 
                                - well, on that we will disagree  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:46 AM   #137 
                                - And that's what makes your beliefs dangerous to me and my friends and family...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 08:50 AM   #141 
                                - there are many out there that would...yes  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:56 AM   #145 
                                - So you don't value gods above humans, that's a good thing, I'm relieved.  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:01 AM   #149 
                                - if i were to believe God was telling me to kill someone  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 09:05 AM   #153 
                                - I think in this case, its your modern secular morality that is coloring your view...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:09 AM   #158 
                                - Disneyfication effect...i like it  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 09:22 AM   #162 
                                - So now being a good person, indeed superior to your god morally, makes you a wimp?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:25 AM   #164 
                                - Your willful strawman version of "Christianity" that you are trying to pin on PJM is dishonest  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-04-11 04:14 PM   #180 
                                - Why can't I cherry pick them Bible when he does the same?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-05-11 12:27 AM   #188 
                                - I don't think the other poster was suggesting he "struggles" not to rob and rape.  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-04-11 04:02 PM   #178 
                                - Spoken like a true religionist. Thanks for your view, but I'm not down on my whole species.  darkstar3   Dec-04-11 04:13 PM   #179 
                                - Please quote anything I said that suggests I am "down on my whole species"  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-04-11 04:16 PM   #181 
                                - Look at #178. Your assumptions about EVERYONE paint a pretty clear picture of your view.  darkstar3   Dec-04-11 04:33 PM   #182 
                                - Yes, EVERYONE struggles, and any suggestion to the contrary is blatantly false  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-04-11 04:48 PM   #183 
                                - Dishonest and disingenuous would be a good description of your false dichotomy.  darkstar3   Dec-04-11 05:08 PM   #184 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 05:36 PM   #185 
                                - More generalizing. How worthless.  darkstar3   Dec-04-11 05:44 PM   #186 
                                - The poster said that he needs God to control his "hideous temper"  PassingFair   Dec-04-11 06:10 PM   #187 
                                - I try to be more thoughtful of others, but I wouldn't characterize it as a stuggle...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-05-11 12:36 AM   #189 
                    - You know, there are some folks here that still remember your grandfather  JanMichael   Dec-03-11 06:16 PM   #88 
                       - JanMichael...sadly there are very few who do...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 11:28 PM   #101 
                 - Your beliefs are wide open to abuse  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-03-11 01:13 PM   #63 
                 - they certainly are...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 01:20 PM   #68 
                    - And isn't it OK for a system wide open to abuse to be mocked?  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-03-11 01:35 PM   #71 
                       - i think abuse of the system can be mocked  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 01:41 PM   #74 
                 - So the man assigns his own whims to a deity, and the woman submits to him.  LeftyMom   Dec-03-11 04:27 PM   #83 
                    - you could certainly look at it that way  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 11:29 PM   #102 
                       - Far worse than a coin toss, surely  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-04-11 05:38 AM   #111 
                          - if he is following the doctrine  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:09 AM   #119 
                             - Question, have you killed your kids for talking back at you?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 08:16 AM   #123 
                             - Could you point out where this doctrine exists? nt  LARED   Dec-04-11 08:20 AM   #125 
                             - The Bible, want me to point out chapter and verse?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 08:41 AM   #133 
                                - Jesus was condemning the act of putting tradition over people  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:50 AM   #140 
                                - So he contradicted himself?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 08:51 AM   #142 
                                - how did he contradict himself?  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:58 AM   #146 
                                - And you don't see a problem with that? n/t  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:03 AM   #151 
                                - no...Christ is teaching that while the law is correct  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 09:07 AM   #156 
                                - OK, let me see if I can get this straight...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:13 AM   #159 
                                - well, you certainly can twist it anyway you like it  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 09:29 AM   #165 
                                - There's a difference between worshipping some type of god, and worshipping the God of the Bible...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:41 AM   #167 
                             - well, once again, Christ commanded us not to condemn  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:44 AM   #136 
                                - I posted Chrst's words above, are you saying you disagree with them? n/t  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 08:52 AM   #143 
                                   - Stop! You are only adding to his struggles!  PassingFair   Dec-04-11 01:53 PM   #175 
                             - But the doctrine says she doesn't know, so she has to be told by her husband?  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-04-11 08:49 AM   #139 
        - Really? Do you really want to go down this route?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 07:42 AM   #113 
           - ah, there's the attack  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:14 AM   #121 
              - I didn't say you were a bad person, indeed, your stuggle with your religion...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 08:21 AM   # 
                 - ok, forgive me if i misinterpreted what you were saying  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:32 AM   #128 
                    - I see mockery as a useful tool in marginalizing bad ideas and bad beliefs...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 08:48 AM   #138 
                       - well, again, we will have to disagree  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:54 AM   #144 
     - hierarchy of submission? WHAT THE FUCK?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 07:28 AM   #112 
        - and i cannot believe  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:15 AM   #122 
           - Hell yes a humanist, NO HUMAN should submit to another, period...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 08:17 AM   #124 
              - but you have said clearly that you do not respect others  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:59 AM   #147 
              - I can respect their right to live and believe whatever they want...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:06 AM   #154 
                 - i dont' see it that way...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 09:09 AM   #157 
                    - This is supremely ironic coming from someone who thinks the laws of the Bible are correct...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:19 AM   #161 
              - Women are not real human beings.  PassingFair   Dec-04-11 12:50 PM   #173 
  - So after all of that grousing at others, have you realized yet  darkstar3   Dec-04-11 03:22 PM   #177 
  - +1  roody   Dec-03-11 12:50 PM   #55 
  - At least no one here called for anyone's death  sarge43   Dec-03-11 10:46 AM   #40 
  - It is not mockery of their beliefs, but a mockery of the Duggars. n/t  RebelOne   Dec-03-11 10:47 AM   #42 
  - Nothing wrong with mocking backward idiots.  Odin2005   Dec-03-11 01:11 PM   #60 
  - Yeah, just like the one mocking  ThoughtCriminal   Dec-03-11 01:38 PM   #72 
  - I'm mocking the dude's cheesy singing  deutsey   Dec-03-11 02:19 PM   #81 
  - Is it improper to mock someone's religion if it denigrates homosexuals?  CreekDog   Dec-03-11 05:04 PM   #87 
  - disagree with them yes...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 11:32 PM   #104 
     - "all people have worth and deserve respect"  Deep13   Dec-04-11 02:09 AM   #110 
        - we will agree to disagree then  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:21 AM   #126 
           - You are a shining example of why people dislike religion. You are using your religion as a reason  WhollyHeretic   Dec-04-11 08:38 AM   #131 
           - no...i have tried to explain why  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 09:01 AM   #148 
              - Because there is no understanding here...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:23 AM   #163 
                 - so you believe...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 09:35 AM   #166 
                    - Hopefully your beliefs will eventually be marginalized to the fringes of society where they belong.  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:45 AM   #168 
                       - and after all that you had to go and be rude...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 12:38 PM   #172 
                          - Actually, its an honest hope, your beliefs are dangerous...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 01:31 PM   #174 
           - Or maybe they believe than women are equal to men  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-04-11 09:07 AM   #155 
           - i can see your point...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 09:15 AM   #160 
           - It is as simple as that. n/t  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 10:18 AM   #170 
           - Your assumptions are completely wrong.  Deep13   Dec-04-11 01:56 PM   #176 
  - If they don't want to be mocked, they should not broadcast their stupid beliefs.  Deep13   Dec-03-11 07:53 PM   #94 
  - To quote Nelson  WhollyHeretic   Dec-03-11 08:18 PM   #95 
  - see post #104 for my feelings  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 11:33 PM   #105 
     - Sorry no. Misogynistic crap deserves no respect. Do the practitioners of FGM deserve respect?  WhollyHeretic   Dec-04-11 07:57 AM   #116 
        - i do not approve of them, no  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:26 AM   #127 
           - Sorry but the religious misogyny that you peddle is dangerous crap. No matter what tap dancing  WhollyHeretic   Dec-04-11 08:35 AM   #129 
           - yes, men can twist a doctrine to make it suit their purposes  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 08:39 AM   #132 
              - Unlike you I'm not one to accept misogyny.  WhollyHeretic   Dec-04-11 08:42 AM   #134 
                 - i never once said i accept misogyny...  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-04-11 09:02 AM   #150 
                    - That is what you are promoting with your "submission" crap. No matter how hard you try and tap dance  WhollyHeretic   Dec-04-11 09:04 AM   #152 
           - OK, where is your Christ protrayed anywhere in scripture? n/t  Humanist_Activist   Dec-04-11 09:47 AM   #169 
  - Wait, haven't you been a DU mod?  LeftyMom   Dec-03-11 08:34 PM   #96 
  - nope...never applied for mod-hood  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 11:29 PM   #103 
  - Some beliefs deserve mockery  NMMNG   Dec-03-11 10:34 PM   #98 
     - while i would disagree that those beliefs should be mocked  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-03-11 11:34 PM   #106 
  - If Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert were to make a savage satire of a conservative wedding....  DFW   Dec-03-11 09:03 AM   #33 
  - This is mostly about the video.  Ron Green   Dec-03-11 10:47 AM   #41 
  - He starts singing AFTER the I do, of course...  Capitalocracy   Dec-03-11 11:07 AM   #44 
  - blech!!!!  and-justice-for-all   Dec-03-11 12:02 PM   #49 
  - Authoritarian religion is a scourge on humanity.  Odin2005   Dec-03-11 01:13 PM   #61 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-03-11 01:14 PM   #65 
  - Ugh. You'd think the Xtians and the Taliban would make natural allies.  Initech   Dec-03-11 04:30 PM   #84 
  - that is disgusting  JitterbugPerfume   Dec-03-11 04:33 PM   #85 
  - ugh. cant watch it.  Liberal_in_LA   Dec-03-11 04:34 PM   #86 
  - I don't see what this has to do with being a red state wedding  Raine   Dec-03-11 06:52 PM   #89 
  - Because shorthand slogans are fun and easy  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-03-11 07:02 PM   #92 
  - That is the first time that I have seen a wedding where ............  Tx4obama   Dec-04-11 12:41 AM   #107 
 

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