| 157. i dont' see it that way... |
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you attack the person...not the belief. that is what mockery does. it says YOU are stupid and broken for believing the way you do...not just that the idea is wrong. and in not caring for their feelings you are dismissing something that is wholly human.
sP
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| -You want to see a hard core Red State wedding? |
bluestateguy |
Dec-02-11 09:29 PM |
#0 |
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The last family wedding I attended in San Francisco |
EFerrari |
Dec-02-11 09:32 PM |
#1 |
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I've never seen that happen at a Catholic wedding |
dflprincess |
Dec-02-11 11:19 PM |
#19 |
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Me, either and ditto. Lots of them. |
EFerrari |
Dec-03-11 07:34 AM |
#24 |
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I'm Mediterranean... |
a la izquierda |
Dec-03-11 12:33 PM |
#52 |
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First United Church of Cartman? |
musette_sf |
Dec-02-11 09:33 PM |
#2 |
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Respect my Authoritaah ... |
UndertheOcean |
Dec-02-11 09:33 PM |
#3 |
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"Submit to his authority"? |
TheWraith |
Dec-02-11 09:34 PM |
#4 |
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A bondage wedding no doubt! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Dec-02-11 09:40 PM |
#8 |
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When Donna and I got married, I printed her immortal words on the invitations. |
hobbit709 |
Dec-03-11 07:51 AM |
#27 |
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So that's what the "sanctity of marriage" argument is really about... |
begin_within |
Dec-03-11 07:00 PM |
#91 |
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As fundie weddings go I've seen worse. We're talking dowries. Long speeches about the bride's intact |
LeftyMom |
Dec-02-11 09:36 PM |
#5 |
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A lot of times the pastor will get in a pot shot or two about gay marriage |
bluestateguy |
Dec-02-11 09:40 PM |
#7 |
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Some fundies are just having religious ceremonies but no civil marriage, |
LeftyMom |
Dec-02-11 09:47 PM |
#12 |
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Bride price is still done in some circles |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-11 10:07 PM |
#14 |
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Wedding coins -- arras |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 01:13 PM |
#62 |
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Held on the auction platform at the county fairground ring a bell? |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-11 10:05 PM |
#13 |
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At least that one looked almost fun. The other one looked dismal. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-02-11 10:30 PM |
#18 |
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Which is more dismal? |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-11 11:20 PM |
#20 |
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Doweries? DOWERIES??? Ye Gods!!! |
Odin2005 |
Dec-03-11 01:14 PM |
#64 |
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Yet another WTF moment. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Dec-02-11 09:39 PM |
#6 |
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I love romantic weddings, but I ABHOR patriarchal bullshit. These people make me puke in my mouth |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Dec-02-11 09:42 PM |
#9 |
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Respect my Authoritah! |
MrMickeysMom |
Dec-02-11 09:45 PM |
#10 |
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I got through 1:20 before I started feeling ill |
The Genealogist |
Dec-02-11 09:46 PM |
#11 |
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It really gets kinda mind numbing, doesn't it. What authoritarian crap IMO. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Dec-02-11 10:11 PM |
#15 |
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It is mind numbing, sickening, and I find myself sad too |
The Genealogist |
Dec-02-11 11:28 PM |
#22 |
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Me too, I couldn't watch whole thing, especially when he started singing. n/t |
RebelOne |
Dec-03-11 10:26 AM |
#38 |
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Had a friend who got married years ago and I went to his wedding in a Baptist church |
Harry Monroe |
Dec-02-11 10:19 PM |
#16 |
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The younguns convinced Ma & Pa that they never even shared a kiss before they were wed. |
Contrary1 |
Dec-02-11 10:21 PM |
#17 |
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I believe these two... |
Cid_B |
Dec-03-11 08:42 AM |
#32 |
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"creepy" is the first word that comes to mind |
Terra Alta |
Dec-02-11 11:25 PM |
#21 |
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Not Even Close |
ChoppinBroccoli |
Dec-02-11 11:29 PM |
#23 |
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allowing god to determine the size of your family?! |
JanMichael |
Dec-03-11 07:44 AM |
#25 |
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Been there, done that.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-03-11 07:47 AM |
#26 |
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Ugh |
NMMNG |
Dec-03-11 08:07 AM |
#28 |
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If this had been a real Red State Weddin', they'd have been at least 1 exorcism or faith healing |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-03-11 08:12 AM |
#29 |
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wow...ANOTHER DU thread full of mockery |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 08:17 AM |
#30 |
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Yep! I love mocking religions. |
Quantess |
Dec-03-11 08:39 AM |
#31 |
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here: |
Gabi Hayes |
Dec-03-11 09:11 AM |
#34 |
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omg, |
JanMichael |
Dec-03-11 10:32 AM |
#39 |
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the tolerance on display on this board |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 09:29 AM |
#35 |
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The thread is mocking misogyny |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-03-11 10:07 AM |
#36 |
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i disagree with the target of mockery |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 10:12 AM |
#37 |
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Then you are making excuses for misogyny, and you are part of the problem |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-03-11 10:56 AM |
#43 |
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biblical submission is about as far from misogyny as you can get |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:09 AM |
#45 |
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"the man must submit first" - nothing about that in those vows |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-03-11 11:43 AM |
#46 |
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yes, there is...it is the core of submission |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:51 AM |
#47 |
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But you yourself mentioned the hierarchy... the man must submit to Christ, but the woman... |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 11:58 AM |
#48 |
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but the point is, if the man is in submission to Christ |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 12:23 PM |
#50 |
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the point is, if you spent as much time living in the real world as you apparently have wallowing |
Gabi Hayes |
Dec-03-11 12:28 PM |
#51 |
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+ 1000 |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 12:40 PM |
#53 |
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you're right...it's not biblical at all... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 12:56 PM |
#56 |
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Why do you think your views deserve special treatment |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Dec-03-11 09:09 PM |
#97 |
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i don't think MY views should be shielded from mockery |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:24 PM |
#99 |
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Your initial post in this thread was |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Dec-04-11 01:21 AM |
#108 |
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you obviously failed to read my post...because my answer is there n/t |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 07:56 AM |
#115 |
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Your post contradicts your earlier sentiments |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Dec-04-11 11:21 AM |
#171 |
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Consensus is hard to reach, but it can be done without one person being officially in charge. |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 12:41 PM |
#54 |
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hey, I'm glad you disagree |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:05 PM |
#58 |
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I put the wants and needs of my family first. |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 01:00 PM |
#57 |
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I think you misread what I struggle with... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:10 PM |
#59 |
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Sorry to keep challenging you on this... |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 01:17 PM |
#66 |
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you know, that is a really good question |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:25 PM |
#69 |
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If it's seriously 50-50, I prefer a coin toss to the male having the authority to break the tie. nt |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 03:19 PM |
#82 |
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fair enough... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:25 PM |
#100 |
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Or you could take turns. |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-04-11 01:24 AM |
#109 |
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i can see that... n/t |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 07:57 AM |
#117 |
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What is it that "Christ" would have you do that you are not naturally inclined to do? |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 01:17 PM |
#67 |
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there are many things that i think intelligent and good-hearted people |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:32 PM |
#70 |
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I am even tempered and loving by nature. I don't struggle with it. |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 01:39 PM |
#73 |
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don't be sorry for my wife... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:46 PM |
#75 |
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Your "struggles". nt |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 01:48 PM |
#76 |
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my struggles give you reason to believe |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:51 PM |
#77 |
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Just that I find it EASY to be good without god. |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 01:59 PM |
#78 |
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that makes you a better person than i am... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 02:01 PM |
#79 |
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I am a product of an atheist father and an Episcopalian that believes ... |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 02:08 PM |
#80 |
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You know, I find it hard to believe that you never "struggle" to be a good person |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-03-11 06:58 PM |
#90 |
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You don't know ME, that's certain. |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 07:37 PM |
#93 |
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OK, seriously, how does this "struggle" take place? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 07:54 AM |
#114 |
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the struggle is to continuously improve myself |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:06 AM |
#118 |
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See, when you say "conform to the image of Christ" I really don't call him an example of a good... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:12 AM |
#120 |
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you seem to miss the parts |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:37 AM |
#130 |
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Nothing should trump the love we have for our fellow human beings. |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:43 AM |
#135 |
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well, on that we will disagree |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:46 AM |
#137 |
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And that's what makes your beliefs dangerous to me and my friends and family... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:50 AM |
#141 |
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there are many out there that would...yes |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:56 AM |
#145 |
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So you don't value gods above humans, that's a good thing, I'm relieved. |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:01 AM |
#149 |
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if i were to believe God was telling me to kill someone |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:05 AM |
#153 |
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I think in this case, its your modern secular morality that is coloring your view... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:09 AM |
#158 |
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Disneyfication effect...i like it |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:22 AM |
#162 |
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So now being a good person, indeed superior to your god morally, makes you a wimp? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:25 AM |
#164 |
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Your willful strawman version of "Christianity" that you are trying to pin on PJM is dishonest |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-04-11 04:14 PM |
#180 |
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Why can't I cherry pick them Bible when he does the same? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-05-11 12:27 AM |
#188 |
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I don't think the other poster was suggesting he "struggles" not to rob and rape. |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-04-11 04:02 PM |
#178 |
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Spoken like a true religionist. Thanks for your view, but I'm not down on my whole species. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-04-11 04:13 PM |
#179 |
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Please quote anything I said that suggests I am "down on my whole species" |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-04-11 04:16 PM |
#181 |
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Look at #178. Your assumptions about EVERYONE paint a pretty clear picture of your view. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-04-11 04:33 PM |
#182 |
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Yes, EVERYONE struggles, and any suggestion to the contrary is blatantly false |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-04-11 04:48 PM |
#183 |
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Dishonest and disingenuous would be a good description of your false dichotomy. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-04-11 05:08 PM |
#184 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-04-11 05:36 PM |
#185 |
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More generalizing. How worthless. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-04-11 05:44 PM |
#186 |
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The poster said that he needs God to control his "hideous temper" |
PassingFair |
Dec-04-11 06:10 PM |
#187 |
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I try to be more thoughtful of others, but I wouldn't characterize it as a stuggle... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-05-11 12:36 AM |
#189 |
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You know, there are some folks here that still remember your grandfather |
JanMichael |
Dec-03-11 06:16 PM |
#88 |
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JanMichael...sadly there are very few who do... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:28 PM |
#101 |
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Your beliefs are wide open to abuse |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-03-11 01:13 PM |
#63 |
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they certainly are... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:20 PM |
#68 |
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And isn't it OK for a system wide open to abuse to be mocked? |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-03-11 01:35 PM |
#71 |
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i think abuse of the system can be mocked |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:41 PM |
#74 |
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So the man assigns his own whims to a deity, and the woman submits to him. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-03-11 04:27 PM |
#83 |
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you could certainly look at it that way |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:29 PM |
#102 |
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Far worse than a coin toss, surely |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-04-11 05:38 AM |
#111 |
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if he is following the doctrine |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:09 AM |
#119 |
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Question, have you killed your kids for talking back at you? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:16 AM |
#123 |
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Could you point out where this doctrine exists? nt |
LARED |
Dec-04-11 08:20 AM |
#125 |
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The Bible, want me to point out chapter and verse? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:41 AM |
#133 |
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Jesus was condemning the act of putting tradition over people |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:50 AM |
#140 |
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So he contradicted himself? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:51 AM |
#142 |
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how did he contradict himself? |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:58 AM |
#146 |
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And you don't see a problem with that? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:03 AM |
#151 |
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no...Christ is teaching that while the law is correct |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:07 AM |
#156 |
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OK, let me see if I can get this straight... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:13 AM |
#159 |
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well, you certainly can twist it anyway you like it |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:29 AM |
#165 |
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There's a difference between worshipping some type of god, and worshipping the God of the Bible... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:41 AM |
#167 |
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well, once again, Christ commanded us not to condemn |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:44 AM |
#136 |
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I posted Chrst's words above, are you saying you disagree with them? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:52 AM |
#143 |
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Stop! You are only adding to his struggles! |
PassingFair |
Dec-04-11 01:53 PM |
#175 |
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But the doctrine says she doesn't know, so she has to be told by her husband? |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-04-11 08:49 AM |
#139 |
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Really? Do you really want to go down this route? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 07:42 AM |
#113 |
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ah, there's the attack |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:14 AM |
#121 |
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I didn't say you were a bad person, indeed, your stuggle with your religion... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:21 AM |
# |
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ok, forgive me if i misinterpreted what you were saying |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:32 AM |
#128 |
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I see mockery as a useful tool in marginalizing bad ideas and bad beliefs... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:48 AM |
#138 |
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well, again, we will have to disagree |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:54 AM |
#144 |
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hierarchy of submission? WHAT THE FUCK? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 07:28 AM |
#112 |
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and i cannot believe |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:15 AM |
#122 |
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Hell yes a humanist, NO HUMAN should submit to another, period... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:17 AM |
#124 |
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but you have said clearly that you do not respect others |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:59 AM |
#147 |
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I can respect their right to live and believe whatever they want... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:06 AM |
#154 |
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i dont' see it that way... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:09 AM |
#157 |
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This is supremely ironic coming from someone who thinks the laws of the Bible are correct... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:19 AM |
#161 |
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Women are not real human beings. |
PassingFair |
Dec-04-11 12:50 PM |
#173 |
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So after all of that grousing at others, have you realized yet |
darkstar3 |
Dec-04-11 03:22 PM |
#177 |
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+1 |
roody |
Dec-03-11 12:50 PM |
#55 |
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At least no one here called for anyone's death |
sarge43 |
Dec-03-11 10:46 AM |
#40 |
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It is not mockery of their beliefs, but a mockery of the Duggars. n/t |
RebelOne |
Dec-03-11 10:47 AM |
#42 |
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Nothing wrong with mocking backward idiots. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-03-11 01:11 PM |
#60 |
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Yeah, just like the one mocking |
ThoughtCriminal |
Dec-03-11 01:38 PM |
#72 |
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I'm mocking the dude's cheesy singing |
deutsey |
Dec-03-11 02:19 PM |
#81 |
| -
Is it improper to mock someone's religion if it denigrates homosexuals? |
CreekDog |
Dec-03-11 05:04 PM |
#87 |
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disagree with them yes... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:32 PM |
#104 |
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"all people have worth and deserve respect" |
Deep13 |
Dec-04-11 02:09 AM |
#110 |
| -
we will agree to disagree then |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:21 AM |
#126 |
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You are a shining example of why people dislike religion. You are using your religion as a reason |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-04-11 08:38 AM |
#131 |
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no...i have tried to explain why |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:01 AM |
#148 |
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Because there is no understanding here... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:23 AM |
#163 |
| -
so you believe... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:35 AM |
#166 |
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Hopefully your beliefs will eventually be marginalized to the fringes of society where they belong. |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:45 AM |
#168 |
| -
and after all that you had to go and be rude... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 12:38 PM |
#172 |
| -
Actually, its an honest hope, your beliefs are dangerous... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 01:31 PM |
#174 |
| -
Or maybe they believe than women are equal to men |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-04-11 09:07 AM |
#155 |
| -
i can see your point... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:15 AM |
#160 |
| -
It is as simple as that. n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 10:18 AM |
#170 |
| -
Your assumptions are completely wrong. |
Deep13 |
Dec-04-11 01:56 PM |
#176 |
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If they don't want to be mocked, they should not broadcast their stupid beliefs. |
Deep13 |
Dec-03-11 07:53 PM |
#94 |
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To quote Nelson |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-03-11 08:18 PM |
#95 |
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see post #104 for my feelings |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:33 PM |
#105 |
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Sorry no. Misogynistic crap deserves no respect. Do the practitioners of FGM deserve respect? |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-04-11 07:57 AM |
#116 |
| -
i do not approve of them, no |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:26 AM |
#127 |
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Sorry but the religious misogyny that you peddle is dangerous crap. No matter what tap dancing |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-04-11 08:35 AM |
#129 |
| -
yes, men can twist a doctrine to make it suit their purposes |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:39 AM |
#132 |
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Unlike you I'm not one to accept misogyny. |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-04-11 08:42 AM |
#134 |
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i never once said i accept misogyny... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:02 AM |
#150 |
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That is what you are promoting with your "submission" crap. No matter how hard you try and tap dance |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-04-11 09:04 AM |
#152 |
| -
OK, where is your Christ protrayed anywhere in scripture? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:47 AM |
#169 |
| -
Wait, haven't you been a DU mod? |
LeftyMom |
Dec-03-11 08:34 PM |
#96 |
| -
nope...never applied for mod-hood |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:29 PM |
#103 |
| -
Some beliefs deserve mockery |
NMMNG |
Dec-03-11 10:34 PM |
#98 |
| -
while i would disagree that those beliefs should be mocked |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:34 PM |
#106 |
| -
If Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert were to make a savage satire of a conservative wedding.... |
DFW |
Dec-03-11 09:03 AM |
#33 |
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This is mostly about the video. |
Ron Green |
Dec-03-11 10:47 AM |
#41 |
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He starts singing AFTER the I do, of course... |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 11:07 AM |
#44 |
| -
blech!!!! |
and-justice-for-all |
Dec-03-11 12:02 PM |
#49 |
| -
Authoritarian religion is a scourge on humanity. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-03-11 01:13 PM |
#61 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-03-11 01:14 PM |
#65 |
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Ugh. You'd think the Xtians and the Taliban would make natural allies. |
Initech |
Dec-03-11 04:30 PM |
#84 |
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that is disgusting |
JitterbugPerfume |
Dec-03-11 04:33 PM |
#85 |
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ugh. cant watch it. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Dec-03-11 04:34 PM |
#86 |
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I don't see what this has to do with being a red state wedding |
Raine |
Dec-03-11 06:52 PM |
#89 |
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Because shorthand slogans are fun and easy |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-03-11 07:02 PM |
#92 |
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That is the first time that I have seen a wedding where ............ |
Tx4obama |
Dec-04-11 12:41 AM |
#107 |
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