| 142. So he contradicted himself? |
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Edited on Sun Dec-04-11 08:58 AM by Humanist_Activist
Odd for a perfect being to do, don't you think?
ON EDIT: Correction, you shouldn't have said people but actually God's Law, Jesus was brought to Earth to fulfill it, not to overturn it. Look at the verses I quoted, he was complaining that the law wasn't be enforced.
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| -You want to see a hard core Red State wedding? |
bluestateguy |
Dec-02-11 09:29 PM |
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The last family wedding I attended in San Francisco |
EFerrari |
Dec-02-11 09:32 PM |
#1 |
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I've never seen that happen at a Catholic wedding |
dflprincess |
Dec-02-11 11:19 PM |
#19 |
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Me, either and ditto. Lots of them. |
EFerrari |
Dec-03-11 07:34 AM |
#24 |
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I'm Mediterranean... |
a la izquierda |
Dec-03-11 12:33 PM |
#52 |
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First United Church of Cartman? |
musette_sf |
Dec-02-11 09:33 PM |
#2 |
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Respect my Authoritaah ... |
UndertheOcean |
Dec-02-11 09:33 PM |
#3 |
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"Submit to his authority"? |
TheWraith |
Dec-02-11 09:34 PM |
#4 |
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A bondage wedding no doubt! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Dec-02-11 09:40 PM |
#8 |
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When Donna and I got married, I printed her immortal words on the invitations. |
hobbit709 |
Dec-03-11 07:51 AM |
#27 |
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So that's what the "sanctity of marriage" argument is really about... |
begin_within |
Dec-03-11 07:00 PM |
#91 |
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As fundie weddings go I've seen worse. We're talking dowries. Long speeches about the bride's intact |
LeftyMom |
Dec-02-11 09:36 PM |
#5 |
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A lot of times the pastor will get in a pot shot or two about gay marriage |
bluestateguy |
Dec-02-11 09:40 PM |
#7 |
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Some fundies are just having religious ceremonies but no civil marriage, |
LeftyMom |
Dec-02-11 09:47 PM |
#12 |
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Bride price is still done in some circles |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-11 10:07 PM |
#14 |
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Wedding coins -- arras |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 01:13 PM |
#62 |
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Held on the auction platform at the county fairground ring a bell? |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-11 10:05 PM |
#13 |
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At least that one looked almost fun. The other one looked dismal. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-02-11 10:30 PM |
#18 |
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Which is more dismal? |
XemaSab |
Dec-02-11 11:20 PM |
#20 |
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Doweries? DOWERIES??? Ye Gods!!! |
Odin2005 |
Dec-03-11 01:14 PM |
#64 |
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Yet another WTF moment. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Dec-02-11 09:39 PM |
#6 |
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I love romantic weddings, but I ABHOR patriarchal bullshit. These people make me puke in my mouth |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Dec-02-11 09:42 PM |
#9 |
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Respect my Authoritah! |
MrMickeysMom |
Dec-02-11 09:45 PM |
#10 |
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I got through 1:20 before I started feeling ill |
The Genealogist |
Dec-02-11 09:46 PM |
#11 |
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It really gets kinda mind numbing, doesn't it. What authoritarian crap IMO. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Dec-02-11 10:11 PM |
#15 |
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It is mind numbing, sickening, and I find myself sad too |
The Genealogist |
Dec-02-11 11:28 PM |
#22 |
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Me too, I couldn't watch whole thing, especially when he started singing. n/t |
RebelOne |
Dec-03-11 10:26 AM |
#38 |
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Had a friend who got married years ago and I went to his wedding in a Baptist church |
Harry Monroe |
Dec-02-11 10:19 PM |
#16 |
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The younguns convinced Ma & Pa that they never even shared a kiss before they were wed. |
Contrary1 |
Dec-02-11 10:21 PM |
#17 |
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I believe these two... |
Cid_B |
Dec-03-11 08:42 AM |
#32 |
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"creepy" is the first word that comes to mind |
Terra Alta |
Dec-02-11 11:25 PM |
#21 |
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Not Even Close |
ChoppinBroccoli |
Dec-02-11 11:29 PM |
#23 |
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allowing god to determine the size of your family?! |
JanMichael |
Dec-03-11 07:44 AM |
#25 |
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Been there, done that.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-03-11 07:47 AM |
#26 |
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Ugh |
NMMNG |
Dec-03-11 08:07 AM |
#28 |
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If this had been a real Red State Weddin', they'd have been at least 1 exorcism or faith healing |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-03-11 08:12 AM |
#29 |
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wow...ANOTHER DU thread full of mockery |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 08:17 AM |
#30 |
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Yep! I love mocking religions. |
Quantess |
Dec-03-11 08:39 AM |
#31 |
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here: |
Gabi Hayes |
Dec-03-11 09:11 AM |
#34 |
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omg, |
JanMichael |
Dec-03-11 10:32 AM |
#39 |
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the tolerance on display on this board |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 09:29 AM |
#35 |
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The thread is mocking misogyny |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-03-11 10:07 AM |
#36 |
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i disagree with the target of mockery |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 10:12 AM |
#37 |
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Then you are making excuses for misogyny, and you are part of the problem |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-03-11 10:56 AM |
#43 |
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biblical submission is about as far from misogyny as you can get |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:09 AM |
#45 |
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"the man must submit first" - nothing about that in those vows |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-03-11 11:43 AM |
#46 |
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yes, there is...it is the core of submission |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:51 AM |
#47 |
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But you yourself mentioned the hierarchy... the man must submit to Christ, but the woman... |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 11:58 AM |
#48 |
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but the point is, if the man is in submission to Christ |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 12:23 PM |
#50 |
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the point is, if you spent as much time living in the real world as you apparently have wallowing |
Gabi Hayes |
Dec-03-11 12:28 PM |
#51 |
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+ 1000 |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 12:40 PM |
#53 |
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you're right...it's not biblical at all... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 12:56 PM |
#56 |
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Why do you think your views deserve special treatment |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Dec-03-11 09:09 PM |
#97 |
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i don't think MY views should be shielded from mockery |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:24 PM |
#99 |
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Your initial post in this thread was |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Dec-04-11 01:21 AM |
#108 |
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you obviously failed to read my post...because my answer is there n/t |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 07:56 AM |
#115 |
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Your post contradicts your earlier sentiments |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Dec-04-11 11:21 AM |
#171 |
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Consensus is hard to reach, but it can be done without one person being officially in charge. |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 12:41 PM |
#54 |
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hey, I'm glad you disagree |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:05 PM |
#58 |
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I put the wants and needs of my family first. |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 01:00 PM |
#57 |
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I think you misread what I struggle with... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:10 PM |
#59 |
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Sorry to keep challenging you on this... |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 01:17 PM |
#66 |
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you know, that is a really good question |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:25 PM |
#69 |
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If it's seriously 50-50, I prefer a coin toss to the male having the authority to break the tie. nt |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 03:19 PM |
#82 |
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fair enough... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:25 PM |
#100 |
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Or you could take turns. |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-04-11 01:24 AM |
#109 |
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i can see that... n/t |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 07:57 AM |
#117 |
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What is it that "Christ" would have you do that you are not naturally inclined to do? |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 01:17 PM |
#67 |
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there are many things that i think intelligent and good-hearted people |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:32 PM |
#70 |
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I am even tempered and loving by nature. I don't struggle with it. |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 01:39 PM |
#73 |
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don't be sorry for my wife... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:46 PM |
#75 |
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Your "struggles". nt |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 01:48 PM |
#76 |
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my struggles give you reason to believe |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:51 PM |
#77 |
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Just that I find it EASY to be good without god. |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 01:59 PM |
#78 |
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that makes you a better person than i am... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 02:01 PM |
#79 |
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I am a product of an atheist father and an Episcopalian that believes ... |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 02:08 PM |
#80 |
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You know, I find it hard to believe that you never "struggle" to be a good person |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-03-11 06:58 PM |
#90 |
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You don't know ME, that's certain. |
PassingFair |
Dec-03-11 07:37 PM |
#93 |
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OK, seriously, how does this "struggle" take place? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 07:54 AM |
#114 |
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the struggle is to continuously improve myself |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:06 AM |
#118 |
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See, when you say "conform to the image of Christ" I really don't call him an example of a good... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:12 AM |
#120 |
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you seem to miss the parts |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:37 AM |
#130 |
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Nothing should trump the love we have for our fellow human beings. |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:43 AM |
#135 |
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well, on that we will disagree |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:46 AM |
#137 |
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And that's what makes your beliefs dangerous to me and my friends and family... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:50 AM |
#141 |
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there are many out there that would...yes |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:56 AM |
#145 |
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So you don't value gods above humans, that's a good thing, I'm relieved. |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:01 AM |
#149 |
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if i were to believe God was telling me to kill someone |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:05 AM |
#153 |
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I think in this case, its your modern secular morality that is coloring your view... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:09 AM |
#158 |
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Disneyfication effect...i like it |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:22 AM |
#162 |
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So now being a good person, indeed superior to your god morally, makes you a wimp? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:25 AM |
#164 |
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Your willful strawman version of "Christianity" that you are trying to pin on PJM is dishonest |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-04-11 04:14 PM |
#180 |
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Why can't I cherry pick them Bible when he does the same? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-05-11 12:27 AM |
#188 |
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I don't think the other poster was suggesting he "struggles" not to rob and rape. |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-04-11 04:02 PM |
#178 |
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Spoken like a true religionist. Thanks for your view, but I'm not down on my whole species. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-04-11 04:13 PM |
#179 |
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Please quote anything I said that suggests I am "down on my whole species" |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-04-11 04:16 PM |
#181 |
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Look at #178. Your assumptions about EVERYONE paint a pretty clear picture of your view. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-04-11 04:33 PM |
#182 |
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Yes, EVERYONE struggles, and any suggestion to the contrary is blatantly false |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-04-11 04:48 PM |
#183 |
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Dishonest and disingenuous would be a good description of your false dichotomy. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-04-11 05:08 PM |
#184 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-04-11 05:36 PM |
#185 |
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More generalizing. How worthless. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-04-11 05:44 PM |
#186 |
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The poster said that he needs God to control his "hideous temper" |
PassingFair |
Dec-04-11 06:10 PM |
#187 |
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I try to be more thoughtful of others, but I wouldn't characterize it as a stuggle... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-05-11 12:36 AM |
#189 |
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You know, there are some folks here that still remember your grandfather |
JanMichael |
Dec-03-11 06:16 PM |
#88 |
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JanMichael...sadly there are very few who do... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:28 PM |
#101 |
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Your beliefs are wide open to abuse |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-03-11 01:13 PM |
#63 |
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they certainly are... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:20 PM |
#68 |
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And isn't it OK for a system wide open to abuse to be mocked? |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-03-11 01:35 PM |
#71 |
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i think abuse of the system can be mocked |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 01:41 PM |
#74 |
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So the man assigns his own whims to a deity, and the woman submits to him. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-03-11 04:27 PM |
#83 |
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you could certainly look at it that way |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:29 PM |
#102 |
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Far worse than a coin toss, surely |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-04-11 05:38 AM |
#111 |
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if he is following the doctrine |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:09 AM |
#119 |
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Question, have you killed your kids for talking back at you? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:16 AM |
#123 |
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Could you point out where this doctrine exists? nt |
LARED |
Dec-04-11 08:20 AM |
#125 |
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The Bible, want me to point out chapter and verse? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:41 AM |
#133 |
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Jesus was condemning the act of putting tradition over people |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:50 AM |
#140 |
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So he contradicted himself? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:51 AM |
#142 |
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how did he contradict himself? |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:58 AM |
#146 |
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And you don't see a problem with that? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:03 AM |
#151 |
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no...Christ is teaching that while the law is correct |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:07 AM |
#156 |
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OK, let me see if I can get this straight... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:13 AM |
#159 |
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well, you certainly can twist it anyway you like it |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:29 AM |
#165 |
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There's a difference between worshipping some type of god, and worshipping the God of the Bible... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:41 AM |
#167 |
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well, once again, Christ commanded us not to condemn |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:44 AM |
#136 |
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I posted Chrst's words above, are you saying you disagree with them? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:52 AM |
#143 |
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Stop! You are only adding to his struggles! |
PassingFair |
Dec-04-11 01:53 PM |
#175 |
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But the doctrine says she doesn't know, so she has to be told by her husband? |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-04-11 08:49 AM |
#139 |
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Really? Do you really want to go down this route? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 07:42 AM |
#113 |
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ah, there's the attack |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:14 AM |
#121 |
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I didn't say you were a bad person, indeed, your stuggle with your religion... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:21 AM |
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ok, forgive me if i misinterpreted what you were saying |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:32 AM |
#128 |
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I see mockery as a useful tool in marginalizing bad ideas and bad beliefs... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:48 AM |
#138 |
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well, again, we will have to disagree |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:54 AM |
#144 |
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hierarchy of submission? WHAT THE FUCK? |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 07:28 AM |
#112 |
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and i cannot believe |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:15 AM |
#122 |
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Hell yes a humanist, NO HUMAN should submit to another, period... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 08:17 AM |
#124 |
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but you have said clearly that you do not respect others |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:59 AM |
#147 |
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I can respect their right to live and believe whatever they want... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:06 AM |
#154 |
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i dont' see it that way... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:09 AM |
#157 |
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This is supremely ironic coming from someone who thinks the laws of the Bible are correct... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:19 AM |
#161 |
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Women are not real human beings. |
PassingFair |
Dec-04-11 12:50 PM |
#173 |
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So after all of that grousing at others, have you realized yet |
darkstar3 |
Dec-04-11 03:22 PM |
#177 |
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+1 |
roody |
Dec-03-11 12:50 PM |
#55 |
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At least no one here called for anyone's death |
sarge43 |
Dec-03-11 10:46 AM |
#40 |
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It is not mockery of their beliefs, but a mockery of the Duggars. n/t |
RebelOne |
Dec-03-11 10:47 AM |
#42 |
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Nothing wrong with mocking backward idiots. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-03-11 01:11 PM |
#60 |
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Yeah, just like the one mocking |
ThoughtCriminal |
Dec-03-11 01:38 PM |
#72 |
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I'm mocking the dude's cheesy singing |
deutsey |
Dec-03-11 02:19 PM |
#81 |
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Is it improper to mock someone's religion if it denigrates homosexuals? |
CreekDog |
Dec-03-11 05:04 PM |
#87 |
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disagree with them yes... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:32 PM |
#104 |
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"all people have worth and deserve respect" |
Deep13 |
Dec-04-11 02:09 AM |
#110 |
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we will agree to disagree then |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:21 AM |
#126 |
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You are a shining example of why people dislike religion. You are using your religion as a reason |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-04-11 08:38 AM |
#131 |
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no...i have tried to explain why |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:01 AM |
#148 |
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Because there is no understanding here... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:23 AM |
#163 |
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so you believe... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:35 AM |
#166 |
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Hopefully your beliefs will eventually be marginalized to the fringes of society where they belong. |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:45 AM |
#168 |
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and after all that you had to go and be rude... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 12:38 PM |
#172 |
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Actually, its an honest hope, your beliefs are dangerous... |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 01:31 PM |
#174 |
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Or maybe they believe than women are equal to men |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-04-11 09:07 AM |
#155 |
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i can see your point... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:15 AM |
#160 |
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It is as simple as that. n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 10:18 AM |
#170 |
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Your assumptions are completely wrong. |
Deep13 |
Dec-04-11 01:56 PM |
#176 |
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If they don't want to be mocked, they should not broadcast their stupid beliefs. |
Deep13 |
Dec-03-11 07:53 PM |
#94 |
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To quote Nelson |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-03-11 08:18 PM |
#95 |
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see post #104 for my feelings |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:33 PM |
#105 |
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Sorry no. Misogynistic crap deserves no respect. Do the practitioners of FGM deserve respect? |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-04-11 07:57 AM |
#116 |
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i do not approve of them, no |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:26 AM |
#127 |
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Sorry but the religious misogyny that you peddle is dangerous crap. No matter what tap dancing |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-04-11 08:35 AM |
#129 |
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yes, men can twist a doctrine to make it suit their purposes |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 08:39 AM |
#132 |
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Unlike you I'm not one to accept misogyny. |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-04-11 08:42 AM |
#134 |
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i never once said i accept misogyny... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-04-11 09:02 AM |
#150 |
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That is what you are promoting with your "submission" crap. No matter how hard you try and tap dance |
WhollyHeretic |
Dec-04-11 09:04 AM |
#152 |
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OK, where is your Christ protrayed anywhere in scripture? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Dec-04-11 09:47 AM |
#169 |
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Wait, haven't you been a DU mod? |
LeftyMom |
Dec-03-11 08:34 PM |
#96 |
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nope...never applied for mod-hood |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:29 PM |
#103 |
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Some beliefs deserve mockery |
NMMNG |
Dec-03-11 10:34 PM |
#98 |
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while i would disagree that those beliefs should be mocked |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-03-11 11:34 PM |
#106 |
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If Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert were to make a savage satire of a conservative wedding.... |
DFW |
Dec-03-11 09:03 AM |
#33 |
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This is mostly about the video. |
Ron Green |
Dec-03-11 10:47 AM |
#41 |
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He starts singing AFTER the I do, of course... |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-03-11 11:07 AM |
#44 |
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blech!!!! |
and-justice-for-all |
Dec-03-11 12:02 PM |
#49 |
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Authoritarian religion is a scourge on humanity. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-03-11 01:13 PM |
#61 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-03-11 01:14 PM |
#65 |
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Ugh. You'd think the Xtians and the Taliban would make natural allies. |
Initech |
Dec-03-11 04:30 PM |
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that is disgusting |
JitterbugPerfume |
Dec-03-11 04:33 PM |
#85 |
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ugh. cant watch it. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Dec-03-11 04:34 PM |
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I don't see what this has to do with being a red state wedding |
Raine |
Dec-03-11 06:52 PM |
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Because shorthand slogans are fun and easy |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-03-11 07:02 PM |
#92 |
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That is the first time that I have seen a wedding where ............ |
Tx4obama |
Dec-04-11 12:41 AM |
#107 |
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