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| -Was Jesus Gay? |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 07:56 PM |
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There's only one answer Zhade... |
HEyHEY |
Dec-21-04 07:57 PM |
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Dec-21-04 07:58 PM |
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Hey, I'm bisexual and I'm pretty scruffy. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 08:00 PM |
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Dec-21-04 08:03 PM |
#5 |
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You know, that's not that funny. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 08:11 PM |
#10 |
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My opinion - he was omnisexual. |
Chipper Chat |
Dec-21-04 08:03 PM |
#4 |
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I'm sure the same'll happen if you tell a Muslim the same about Mohammed. |
tuvor |
Dec-21-04 08:09 PM |
#9 |
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What does that infer? |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 08:12 PM |
#12 |
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Well, I was hoping no one would ask.... |
Chipper Chat |
Dec-21-04 08:54 PM |
#30 |
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Omnisexual? Well, that can be taken in a lot of ways! |
HypnoToad |
Dec-22-04 08:28 AM |
#99 |
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The fundies won't even acknowledge his ethnicity. |
renaissanceguy |
Dec-23-04 08:04 AM |
#152 |
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Other: Who cares? |
tuvor |
Dec-21-04 08:03 PM |
#6 |
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Looks like a Goddamned pinko liberal hippy to me... |
AngryWhiteLiberal |
Dec-21-04 08:05 PM |
#7 |
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nah you had it first blush, liberal hippie, first thing i liked about him, |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-21-04 08:12 PM |
#13 |
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Not that he was asexual,there is no mention of his sexual,political |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-21-04 08:07 PM |
#8 |
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Just my personal opinion |
okasha |
Dec-21-04 08:11 PM |
#11 |
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Christian mystic? |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-21-04 08:17 PM |
#17 |
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Well... One Of His Best Buds Was A Hooker !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-21-04 08:13 PM |
#14 |
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Hey, she's no hooker, she's my virgin. |
autorank |
Dec-21-04 08:35 PM |
#26 |
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Hey Man... I Don't Have Anything Against Virgins !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-21-04 08:38 PM |
#27 |
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And I don't have anything against hookers. We're cool. |
autorank |
Dec-21-04 08:59 PM |
#31 |
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Are you referring to Mary Magdalene? |
cally |
Dec-21-04 09:36 PM |
#37 |
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AHA! PROOF! |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 10:03 PM |
#45 |
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Oh Great... Another Favorite Myth Of Mine, Knocked Down !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-21-04 10:21 PM |
#51 |
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Pssst...there is not a Santa Claus |
cally |
Dec-21-04 11:28 PM |
#61 |
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if you looked at your history |
superconnected |
Dec-22-04 05:29 PM |
#115 |
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Santa Claus... The Messiah ??? - I Had No Idea !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-22-04 08:36 PM |
#128 |
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Cally, can you cite a reference for this info? |
phylny |
Dec-23-04 06:16 AM |
#149 |
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Actually Mary Magdeline as "hooker" was a planted story by an early pope |
Razorback_Democrat |
Dec-21-04 10:05 PM |
#47 |
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There is good reason to believe she was an apostle. |
K-W |
Dec-21-04 11:33 PM |
#64 |
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Well... At Least She Was\Is A Woman Of Mystery !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-22-04 04:42 PM |
#104 |
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Hmmm. I just realized a flaw with this poll. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 08:15 PM |
#15 |
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That's OK. |
Jesus H. Christ |
Dec-21-04 08:16 PM |
#16 |
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Touche! Thanks, Dr. J! |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 08:20 PM |
#21 |
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I have a feeling the homophobes |
Lone Pawn |
Dec-22-04 12:15 AM |
#70 |
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Sadly, it seems some of the people who think "gay" is an insult... |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 11:47 AM |
#165 |
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Rather be hated by demo's, than excepted by shrubers, |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-21-04 08:19 PM |
# |
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Rather be hated by demo's, than excepted by shrubers, |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-21-04 08:19 PM |
# |
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Rather be hated by demo's, than excepted by shrubers, |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-21-04 08:19 PM |
#19 |
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Rather be hated by demo's, than excepted by shrubers, |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-21-04 08:19 PM |
# |
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Rather be hated by demo's, than excepted by shrubers, |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-21-04 08:19 PM |
#20 |
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Not to sound too snarky, but does it really matter? |
JerseygirlCT |
Dec-21-04 08:18 PM |
#18 |
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Only in one tangible way. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 08:22 PM |
#22 |
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Well, that's just it, isn't it? |
JerseygirlCT |
Dec-22-04 08:29 AM |
#100 |
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how could ANYONE here answer at all? |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-21-04 08:25 PM |
#23 |
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there is not one iota of a reference to Jesus and sex ,not one |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-21-04 08:40 PM |
#28 |
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i agree...at least in the texts we have regular access to |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-21-04 08:46 PM |
#29 |
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Why worry about facts |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-22-04 05:59 AM |
#85 |
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And what better way to advance the progressive agenda... |
Telly Savalas |
Dec-22-04 08:23 AM |
#98 |
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Seems today, everything piss some Christians off! |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-22-04 05:02 PM |
#109 |
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some would consider it flame bait |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-22-04 05:08 PM |
#111 |
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Nice reply! |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-22-04 05:17 PM |
#112 |
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the ONLY reason I see flames |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Dec-23-04 04:36 AM |
#144 |
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I don't want Christ used to make a political point |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-22-04 05:36 PM |
#118 |
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Out of curiousity.... |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-22-04 11:06 PM |
#140 |
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I think in this case |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Dec-22-04 11:15 PM |
#141 |
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Alas....we meet again! :) |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-22-04 11:20 PM |
#143 |
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It was intended to promote gay marriage (a political point) |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-23-04 06:21 AM |
#150 |
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Jumping to conclusions |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-23-04 10:47 AM |
#158 |
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Of course it would matter if Jesus had been gay |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-24-04 08:15 AM |
#187 |
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If that is true... |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-24-04 12:21 PM |
#189 |
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I don't want anyone to USE Christ |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-24-04 01:53 PM |
#190 |
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Please define "actively gay". |
Zhade |
Dec-24-04 02:22 PM |
#191 |
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So a queer guy like me asking this is equivalent to a neocon? |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 11:45 AM |
#164 |
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It's trying to promote gay marriage |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-24-04 08:17 AM |
#188 |
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Please illustrate where I pushed equal rights for gays here. |
Zhade |
Dec-24-04 02:24 PM |
#192 |
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In one of the books of the Apocrypha... |
Enraged_Ape |
Dec-22-04 07:24 AM |
#90 |
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Book's of what,about who apocrypha... ????? |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-22-04 04:49 PM |
#105 |
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One of the Gnostic texts, called the Book of Mary(Magdelene)... |
Solon |
Dec-23-04 01:35 PM |
#180 |
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The Bible only contains a small portion of the books written about Jesus |
RUDUing2 |
Dec-27-04 09:42 AM |
#197 |
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No. |
MrSlayer |
Dec-21-04 08:28 PM |
#24 |
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Nah, nothing to it! |
autorank |
Dec-21-04 08:33 PM |
#25 |
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I think that the official position is that he was celibate |
Nikia |
Dec-21-04 09:14 PM |
#32 |
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Of course, you don't have to have sex to BE gay. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 09:58 PM |
#40 |
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I said no, but I could be wrong. |
genieroze |
Dec-21-04 09:28 PM |
#33 |
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I would think if he was "tempted in all points like we are" |
donheld |
Dec-21-04 09:33 PM |
#36 |
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I agree |
Undercover Owl |
Dec-23-04 05:34 AM |
#146 |
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The scripture presents only the impression that Jesus was |
lgardengate |
Dec-21-04 09:30 PM |
#34 |
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Ah, but what scriptures? Many originals were tossed. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 09:59 PM |
#41 |
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Your speaking of the Gnostic bible |
lgardengate |
Dec-22-04 12:04 AM |
#68 |
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Five Things about a Jewish Father |
infusionman |
Dec-21-04 09:32 PM |
#35 |
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It was always my informed understanding that Jesus REPLACED the OT. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 10:01 PM |
#43 |
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Jesus said he did Not come to obolish the law or the prophets |
lgardengate |
Dec-22-04 12:09 AM |
#69 |
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Jesus did not come into the world to change the Law (Torah) |
infusionman |
Dec-22-04 09:21 PM |
#132 |
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Why is it offensive? |
MattBaggins |
Dec-21-04 10:21 PM |
#50 |
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Because fags are bad? (I'm queer. I can say it.) |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 11:22 PM |
#58 |
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God do I hate "fag" and "queer". |
Bluebear |
Dec-22-04 01:45 AM |
#76 |
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I thought gays use those terms themselves.... |
Undercover Owl |
Dec-22-04 09:22 PM |
#133 |
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correct - |
sui generis |
Dec-27-04 09:10 AM |
#195 |
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because it is using homosexuality as an insult and as a way to |
RUDUing2 |
Dec-22-04 08:19 AM |
#97 |
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That's entirely right |
infusionman |
Dec-22-04 03:28 PM |
#102 |
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that I will buy. n/t |
Boosterman |
Dec-22-04 05:20 PM |
#113 |
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seems like you're projecting |
noiretblu |
Dec-22-04 06:16 PM |
#121 |
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I did not say it was an insult... |
infusionman |
Dec-22-04 09:17 PM |
#131 |
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I still fail to see how the question "Was Jesus Gay?" is an insult. |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 06:34 PM |
#183 |
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Considering I'M QUEER, you're just plain WRONG. |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 11:28 AM |
#161 |
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I'll Hop Into The Way-Back Machine And... |
Liberal_Dog |
Dec-21-04 09:39 PM |
#38 |
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Other: He was a 'Quirky Alone' |
devilgrrl |
Dec-21-04 09:41 PM |
#39 |
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Secret Gospel of Mark |
AlienGirl |
Dec-21-04 10:01 PM |
#42 |
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I wondered when someone would bring this one up. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 10:04 PM |
#46 |
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The SGoM is a highly-dubious document... |
regnaD kciN |
Dec-22-04 02:40 AM |
#77 |
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Is this just a flame poll? |
Razorback_Democrat |
Dec-21-04 10:02 PM |
#44 |
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Honestly? No. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 10:06 PM |
#48 |
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Who cares?It's his message of peace, love and forgiveness that's important |
TroubleMan |
Dec-21-04 10:11 PM |
#49 |
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Please make your signature happen. PLEASE! |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 11:24 PM |
#59 |
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If the apostles had been gay... |
Raster |
Dec-21-04 10:21 PM |
#52 |
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not that it matters... |
disconnected |
Dec-21-04 10:38 PM |
#54 |
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I LOVE IT! ....n/t |
Undercover Owl |
Dec-22-04 09:27 PM |
#134 |
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This is the dumbest most left thing I have ever seen posted here. |
rocktop15 |
Dec-21-04 10:34 PM |
#53 |
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not a christian, don't give a shit and REALLY don't care if the so-called |
Raster |
Dec-21-04 10:51 PM |
#55 |
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OMG! |
94114_San_Francisco |
Dec-22-04 01:43 AM |
#75 |
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thank you, ditto! |
Raster |
Dec-22-04 01:49 PM |
#101 |
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"Left" thing? No, honey, this is a QUEER thing. Try reading next time. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 11:26 PM |
#60 |
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I don't see it as a "left thing," I see it as a "dumb thing." |
Redleg |
Dec-21-04 11:33 PM |
#63 |
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Well, at least that's an honest opinion of it. |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 11:35 PM |
#65 |
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My opinion exactly |
Razorback_Democrat |
Dec-22-04 07:45 AM |
#92 |
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Question |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-22-04 10:02 PM |
#138 |
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I'm offended at the attempt to create a flame thread about this |
Razorback_Democrat |
Dec-23-04 08:23 AM |
#153 |
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Was Jesus Black? |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-23-04 10:59 AM |
#159 |
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rocktop, I agree. |
GOPBasher |
Dec-23-04 09:03 AM |
#155 |
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Damn right he was gay! |
tedzbear |
Dec-21-04 10:55 PM |
#56 |
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Totally! |
not systems |
Dec-21-04 11:00 PM |
#57 |
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Does it matter? |
Redleg |
Dec-21-04 11:32 PM |
#62 |
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"Did you do this to stir up some shit in here?" |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 11:37 PM |
#66 |
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Believe it or not, it's those kinds of statements that push people away |
Redleg |
Dec-21-04 11:43 PM |
#67 |
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Yes they do |
Razorback_Democrat |
Dec-22-04 07:46 AM |
#93 |
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If the question "was Jesus gay" pushes people away... |
Jesus H. Christ |
Dec-22-04 06:28 PM |
#126 |
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It did appear to be flame-igniting, at first glance. |
Undercover Owl |
Dec-23-04 05:29 AM |
#145 |
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Oh, but you are wrong |
Razorback_Democrat |
Dec-23-04 08:27 AM |
#154 |
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Again, how is asking if Jesus was gay "bashing"? |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 06:37 PM |
#184 |
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This thread has become a Christian bashing thread |
Razorback_Democrat |
Dec-22-04 07:48 AM |
#94 |
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Where? |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-23-04 11:02 AM |
#160 |
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Those were a half-attempt to make fun of BISEXUALS, in fact. |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 11:37 AM |
#162 |
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I like threads like this |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-23-04 11:59 AM |
#172 |
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He was not simply divine, darling |
Lilith Velkor |
Dec-22-04 01:08 AM |
#71 |
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No he wasn't, because the throw pillows didn't match the curtains. Sorry. |
bobweaver |
Dec-22-04 01:14 AM |
#72 |
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Were Joseph and Mary straight? If the conception was "immaculate"? |
bobweaver |
Dec-22-04 01:18 AM |
#73 |
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Jesus never existed. |
manhattanite |
Dec-22-04 01:20 AM |
#74 |
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Horse pucky! He DOES exist! |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-22-04 04:23 AM |
#82 |
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Of course he did |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-22-04 06:25 PM |
#124 |
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Really no proof |
FM Arouet666 |
Dec-22-04 09:04 PM |
#130 |
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remember Mary Magdalene? |
imenja |
Dec-22-04 02:42 AM |
#78 |
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no, but he was fabulous |
Must_B_Free |
Dec-22-04 02:44 AM |
#79 |
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hehee |
indigobusiness |
Dec-22-04 04:05 AM |
#80 |
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He was married to Mary "Magdalene" from the Benjamite tribe... |
RBHam |
Dec-22-04 04:13 AM |
#81 |
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Sure, why not? |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-22-04 04:27 AM |
#83 |
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he's buried in layers of politics, editing and wishful thinking. I don't |
roguevalley |
Dec-22-04 05:40 AM |
#84 |
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HOW OLD ARE YOU? SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE THERE. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-22-04 06:21 AM |
#86 |
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I'm a few centuries short but I read a lot and my area of |
roguevalley |
Dec-22-04 03:31 PM |
#103 |
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OK, but he was definately black. |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-22-04 07:38 AM |
#91 |
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wishful conclusions? thanks for the neat compliment,did i make my |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-22-04 04:54 PM |
#106 |
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yes, and i think john was his lover. |
xchrom |
Dec-22-04 06:46 AM |
#87 |
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Jesus loved everyone |
AliciaKeyedUp |
Dec-22-04 06:47 AM |
#88 |
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How can a Man-Made myth be gay OR straight? |
RetroLounge |
Dec-22-04 06:51 AM |
#89 |
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All "myths" are man made |
Razorback_Democrat |
Dec-22-04 07:50 AM |
#95 |
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Jesus is a historical figure |
superconnected |
Dec-22-04 05:02 PM |
#110 |
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Actually, no, he isn't. |
Jesus H. Christ |
Dec-22-04 06:02 PM |
#120 |
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The struggle to find the historical Jesus |
Az |
Dec-22-04 06:21 PM |
#122 |
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oh really |
superconnected |
Dec-22-04 08:33 PM |
#127 |
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he was an observant religious jew from a respected and wealthy family |
RUDUing2 |
Dec-22-04 08:16 AM |
#96 |
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Since I'm queer, why would I "denigrate" Jesus by asking if he was gay? |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 11:44 AM |
#163 |
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because it is a favorite tactic used to try and lessen Jesus and to divert |
RUDUing2 |
Dec-23-04 12:26 PM |
#173 |
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Again, how is asking if Jesus was gay "lessening" him? |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 12:53 PM |
#177 |
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not a thing...I thought you were using this as a way of promoting |
RUDUing2 |
Dec-23-04 12:57 PM |
#179 |
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Ah! We're good then, friend. |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 06:26 PM |
#182 |
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does it bloody matter? |
lionesspriyanka |
Dec-22-04 04:58 PM |
#107 |
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I always though Jesus was friendly with the ladies |
superconnected |
Dec-22-04 05:01 PM |
#108 |
| -
Is that why Paul seems so homophobic? |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 11:50 AM |
#166 |
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I voted no |
Boosterman |
Dec-22-04 05:24 PM |
#114 |
| -
I think the same way. |
superconnected |
Dec-22-04 05:30 PM |
#117 |
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Really good post, thanks for the thoughts. |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 11:51 AM |
#168 |
| -
Who wrote this poll, CNN? |
Bluebear |
Dec-22-04 05:29 PM |
#116 |
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Some sources suggesting he was gay |
Az |
Dec-22-04 06:00 PM |
#119 |
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non-sexual |
Johonny |
Dec-22-04 06:24 PM |
#123 |
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Hehe, evidence he says |
Az |
Dec-22-04 06:25 PM |
#125 |
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actually you're supposed to come up with evidence he didn't exist |
superconnected |
Dec-22-04 08:37 PM |
#129 |
| -
Another time another place |
Az |
Dec-22-04 09:41 PM |
#135 |
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Not that I want to go there, but a reminder: can't prove a negative. |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 11:53 AM |
#169 |
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I don't understand why you're asking this question? |
Placebo |
Dec-22-04 09:43 PM |
#136 |
| -
maybe... |
jellybelly |
Dec-22-04 09:50 PM |
#137 |
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Huh?! |
Behind the Aegis |
Dec-22-04 10:06 PM |
#139 |
| -
you are weird. |
Undercover Owl |
Dec-23-04 05:43 AM |
#147 |
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will this piss the fundies off |
Obviousman |
Dec-22-04 11:18 PM |
#142 |
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I don't know and you don't know either. |
bklyncowgirl |
Dec-23-04 06:11 AM |
#148 |
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Jesus led a sinless life. |
infusionman |
Dec-23-04 07:44 AM |
#151 |
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If Jesus were gay, it would have been a sin? |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 06:41 PM |
#185 |
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Would it then be fair to say his followers likewise do not know? |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 11:56 AM |
#170 |
| -
This thread is fascinating |
Stuckinthebush |
Dec-23-04 09:34 AM |
#156 |
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You're absolutely right. |
Tafiti |
Dec-23-04 11:50 AM |
#167 |
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It sure is. Kinda surprising, too. |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 11:59 AM |
#171 |
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I figured your question was based on McNally's play/book |
RUDUing2 |
Dec-23-04 12:48 PM |
#175 |
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No, I've never heard of McNally's work. |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 12:52 PM |
#176 |
| -
Corpus Christi depicts a Jesus and his disciples as being |
RUDUing2 |
Dec-23-04 12:55 PM |
#178 |
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Hmmm...sounds just as negative toward gays as toward Jesus. |
Zhade |
Dec-23-04 06:26 PM |
#181 |
| -
sorry this should be in reply to zhade. |
RUDUing2 |
Dec-23-04 12:46 PM |
#174 |
| -
Why the f*ck does it matter? |
catbert836 |
Dec-23-04 10:26 AM |
#157 |
| -
Perhaps.... |
princehal |
Dec-23-04 09:16 PM |
#186 |
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That's a good extrapolation of the original question. I like it! |
Zhade |
Dec-24-04 02:29 PM |
#193 |
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other, jesus was non existent fictious legendary character sans sexuality |
Is It Fascism Yet |
Dec-27-04 07:53 AM |
#194 |
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a provocative question |
sui generis |
Dec-27-04 09:14 AM |
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I believe Jesus was an Eunich |
Mabeline |
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