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74. Jesus never existed.
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  -Was Jesus Gay? Zhade  Dec-21-04 07:56 PM   #0 
  - There's only one answer Zhade...  HEyHEY   Dec-21-04 07:57 PM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-21-04 07:58 PM   #2 
  - Hey, I'm bisexual and I'm pretty scruffy.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 08:00 PM   #3 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-21-04 08:03 PM   #5 
        - You know, that's not that funny.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 08:11 PM   #10 
  - My opinion - he was omnisexual.  Chipper Chat   Dec-21-04 08:03 PM   #4 
  - I'm sure the same'll happen if you tell a Muslim the same about Mohammed.  tuvor   Dec-21-04 08:09 PM   #9 
  - What does that infer?  Zhade   Dec-21-04 08:12 PM   #12 
  - Well, I was hoping no one would ask....  Chipper Chat   Dec-21-04 08:54 PM   #30 
  - Omnisexual? Well, that can be taken in a lot of ways!  HypnoToad   Dec-22-04 08:28 AM   #99 
  - The fundies won't even acknowledge his ethnicity.  renaissanceguy   Dec-23-04 08:04 AM   #152 
  - Other: Who cares?  tuvor   Dec-21-04 08:03 PM   #6 
  - Looks like a Goddamned pinko liberal hippy to me...  AngryWhiteLiberal   Dec-21-04 08:05 PM   #7 
  - nah you had it first blush, liberal hippie, first thing i liked about him,  orpupilofnature57   Dec-21-04 08:12 PM   #13 
  - Not that he was asexual,there is no mention of his sexual,political  orpupilofnature57   Dec-21-04 08:07 PM   #8 
  - Just my personal opinion  okasha   Dec-21-04 08:11 PM   #11 
     - Christian mystic?  orpupilofnature57   Dec-21-04 08:17 PM   #17 
  - Well... One Of His Best Buds Was A Hooker !!!  WillyT   Dec-21-04 08:13 PM   #14 
  - Hey, she's no hooker, she's my virgin.  autorank   Dec-21-04 08:35 PM   #26 
  - Hey Man... I Don't Have Anything Against Virgins !!!  WillyT   Dec-21-04 08:38 PM   #27 
     - And I don't have anything against hookers. We're cool.  autorank   Dec-21-04 08:59 PM   #31 
  - Are you referring to Mary Magdalene?  cally   Dec-21-04 09:36 PM   #37 
  - AHA! PROOF!  Zhade   Dec-21-04 10:03 PM   #45 
  - Oh Great... Another Favorite Myth Of Mine, Knocked Down !!!  WillyT   Dec-21-04 10:21 PM   #51 
  - Pssst...there is not a Santa Claus  cally   Dec-21-04 11:28 PM   #61 
  - if you looked at your history  superconnected   Dec-22-04 05:29 PM   #115 
     - Santa Claus... The Messiah ??? - I Had No Idea !!!  WillyT   Dec-22-04 08:36 PM   #128 
  - Cally, can you cite a reference for this info?  phylny   Dec-23-04 06:16 AM   #149 
  - Actually Mary Magdeline as "hooker" was a planted story by an early pope  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-21-04 10:05 PM   #47 
     - There is good reason to believe she was an apostle.  K-W   Dec-21-04 11:33 PM   #64 
     - Well... At Least She Was\Is A Woman Of Mystery !!!  WillyT   Dec-22-04 04:42 PM   #104 
  - Hmmm. I just realized a flaw with this poll.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 08:15 PM   #15 
  - That's OK.  Jesus H. Christ   Dec-21-04 08:16 PM   #16 
  - Touche! Thanks, Dr. J!  Zhade   Dec-21-04 08:20 PM   #21 
  - I have a feeling the homophobes  Lone Pawn   Dec-22-04 12:15 AM   #70 
     - Sadly, it seems some of the people who think "gay" is an insult...  Zhade   Dec-23-04 11:47 AM   #165 
  - Rather be hated by demo's, than excepted by shrubers,  orpupilofnature57   Dec-21-04 08:19 PM   # 
  - Rather be hated by demo's, than excepted by shrubers,  orpupilofnature57   Dec-21-04 08:19 PM   # 
  - Rather be hated by demo's, than excepted by shrubers,  orpupilofnature57   Dec-21-04 08:19 PM   #19 
  - Rather be hated by demo's, than excepted by shrubers,  orpupilofnature57   Dec-21-04 08:19 PM   # 
  - Rather be hated by demo's, than excepted by shrubers,  orpupilofnature57   Dec-21-04 08:19 PM   #20 
  - Not to sound too snarky, but does it really matter?  JerseygirlCT   Dec-21-04 08:18 PM   #18 
  - Only in one tangible way.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 08:22 PM   #22 
     - Well, that's just it, isn't it?  JerseygirlCT   Dec-22-04 08:29 AM   #100 
  - how could ANYONE here answer at all?  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-21-04 08:25 PM   #23 
  - there is not one iota of a reference to Jesus and sex ,not one  orpupilofnature57   Dec-21-04 08:40 PM   #28 
     - i agree...at least in the texts we have regular access to  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-21-04 08:46 PM   #29 
     - Why worry about facts  AliciaKeyedUp   Dec-22-04 05:59 AM   #85 
     - And what better way to advance the progressive agenda...  Telly Savalas   Dec-22-04 08:23 AM   #98 
     - Seems today, everything piss some Christians off!  Behind the Aegis   Dec-22-04 05:02 PM   #109 
        - some would consider it flame bait  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-22-04 05:08 PM   #111 
        - Nice reply!  Behind the Aegis   Dec-22-04 05:17 PM   #112 
           - the ONLY reason I see flames  ProdigalJunkMail   Dec-23-04 04:36 AM   #144 
        - I don't want Christ used to make a political point  AliciaKeyedUp   Dec-22-04 05:36 PM   #118 
           - Out of curiousity....  Behind the Aegis   Dec-22-04 11:06 PM   #140 
           - I think in this case  Kathy in Cambridge   Dec-22-04 11:15 PM   #141 
           - Alas....we meet again! :)  Behind the Aegis   Dec-22-04 11:20 PM   #143 
           - It was intended to promote gay marriage (a political point)  AliciaKeyedUp   Dec-23-04 06:21 AM   #150 
              - Jumping to conclusions  Behind the Aegis   Dec-23-04 10:47 AM   #158 
                 - Of course it would matter if Jesus had been gay  AliciaKeyedUp   Dec-24-04 08:15 AM   #187 
                    - If that is true...  Behind the Aegis   Dec-24-04 12:21 PM   #189 
                       - I don't want anyone to USE Christ  AliciaKeyedUp   Dec-24-04 01:53 PM   #190 
                          - Please define "actively gay".  Zhade   Dec-24-04 02:22 PM   #191 
           - So a queer guy like me asking this is equivalent to a neocon?  Zhade   Dec-23-04 11:45 AM   #164 
              - It's trying to promote gay marriage  AliciaKeyedUp   Dec-24-04 08:17 AM   #188 
                 - Please illustrate where I pushed equal rights for gays here.  Zhade   Dec-24-04 02:24 PM   #192 
     - In one of the books of the Apocrypha...  Enraged_Ape   Dec-22-04 07:24 AM   #90 
        - Book's of what,about who apocrypha... ?????  orpupilofnature57   Dec-22-04 04:49 PM   #105 
           - One of the Gnostic texts, called the Book of Mary(Magdelene)...  Solon   Dec-23-04 01:35 PM   #180 
           - The Bible only contains a small portion of the books written about Jesus  RUDUing2   Dec-27-04 09:42 AM   #197 
  - No.  MrSlayer   Dec-21-04 08:28 PM   #24 
  - Nah, nothing to it!  autorank   Dec-21-04 08:33 PM   #25 
  - I think that the official position is that he was celibate  Nikia   Dec-21-04 09:14 PM   #32 
  - Of course, you don't have to have sex to BE gay.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 09:58 PM   #40 
  - I said no, but I could be wrong.  genieroze   Dec-21-04 09:28 PM   #33 
  - I would think if he was "tempted in all points like we are"  donheld   Dec-21-04 09:33 PM   #36 
  - I agree  Undercover Owl   Dec-23-04 05:34 AM   #146 
  - The scripture presents only the impression that Jesus was  lgardengate   Dec-21-04 09:30 PM   #34 
  - Ah, but what scriptures? Many originals were tossed.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 09:59 PM   #41 
     - Your speaking of the Gnostic bible  lgardengate   Dec-22-04 12:04 AM   #68 
  - Five Things about a Jewish Father  infusionman   Dec-21-04 09:32 PM   #35 
  - It was always my informed understanding that Jesus REPLACED the OT.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 10:01 PM   #43 
  - Jesus said he did Not come to obolish the law or the prophets  lgardengate   Dec-22-04 12:09 AM   #69 
  - Jesus did not come into the world to change the Law (Torah)  infusionman   Dec-22-04 09:21 PM   #132 
  - Why is it offensive?  MattBaggins   Dec-21-04 10:21 PM   #50 
     - Because fags are bad? (I'm queer. I can say it.)  Zhade   Dec-21-04 11:22 PM   #58 
     - God do I hate "fag" and "queer".  Bluebear   Dec-22-04 01:45 AM   #76 
        - I thought gays use those terms themselves....  Undercover Owl   Dec-22-04 09:22 PM   #133 
           - correct -  sui generis   Dec-27-04 09:10 AM   #195 
     - because it is using homosexuality as an insult and as a way to  RUDUing2   Dec-22-04 08:19 AM   #97 
        - That's entirely right  infusionman   Dec-22-04 03:28 PM   #102 
        - that I will buy. n/t  Boosterman   Dec-22-04 05:20 PM   #113 
        - seems like you're projecting  noiretblu   Dec-22-04 06:16 PM   #121 
        - I did not say it was an insult...  infusionman   Dec-22-04 09:17 PM   #131 
           - I still fail to see how the question "Was Jesus Gay?" is an insult.  Zhade   Dec-23-04 06:34 PM   #183 
        - Considering I'M QUEER, you're just plain WRONG.  Zhade   Dec-23-04 11:28 AM   #161 
  - I'll Hop Into The Way-Back Machine And...  Liberal_Dog   Dec-21-04 09:39 PM   #38 
  - Other: He was a 'Quirky Alone'  devilgrrl   Dec-21-04 09:41 PM   #39 
  - Secret Gospel of Mark  AlienGirl   Dec-21-04 10:01 PM   #42 
  - I wondered when someone would bring this one up.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 10:04 PM   #46 
  - The SGoM is a highly-dubious document...  regnaD kciN   Dec-22-04 02:40 AM   #77 
  - Is this just a flame poll?  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-21-04 10:02 PM   #44 
  - Honestly? No.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 10:06 PM   #48 
  - Who cares?It's his message of peace, love and forgiveness that's important  TroubleMan   Dec-21-04 10:11 PM   #49 
  - Please make your signature happen. PLEASE!  Zhade   Dec-21-04 11:24 PM   #59 
  - If the apostles had been gay...  Raster   Dec-21-04 10:21 PM   #52 
  - not that it matters...  disconnected   Dec-21-04 10:38 PM   #54 
  - I LOVE IT! ....n/t  Undercover Owl   Dec-22-04 09:27 PM   #134 
  - This is the dumbest most left thing I have ever seen posted here.  rocktop15   Dec-21-04 10:34 PM   #53 
  - not a christian, don't give a shit and REALLY don't care if the so-called  Raster   Dec-21-04 10:51 PM   #55 
  - OMG!  94114_San_Francisco   Dec-22-04 01:43 AM   #75 
     - thank you, ditto!  Raster   Dec-22-04 01:49 PM   #101 
  - "Left" thing? No, honey, this is a QUEER thing. Try reading next time.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 11:26 PM   #60 
  - I don't see it as a "left thing," I see it as a "dumb thing."  Redleg   Dec-21-04 11:33 PM   #63 
  - Well, at least that's an honest opinion of it.  Zhade   Dec-21-04 11:35 PM   #65 
  - My opinion exactly  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-22-04 07:45 AM   #92 
  - Question  Behind the Aegis   Dec-22-04 10:02 PM   #138 
     - I'm offended at the attempt to create a flame thread about this  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-23-04 08:23 AM   #153 
        - Was Jesus Black?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-23-04 10:59 AM   #159 
  - rocktop, I agree.  GOPBasher   Dec-23-04 09:03 AM   #155 
  - Damn right he was gay!  tedzbear   Dec-21-04 10:55 PM   #56 
  - Totally!  not systems   Dec-21-04 11:00 PM   #57 
  - Does it matter?  Redleg   Dec-21-04 11:32 PM   #62 
  - "Did you do this to stir up some shit in here?"  Zhade   Dec-21-04 11:37 PM   #66 
     - Believe it or not, it's those kinds of statements that push people away  Redleg   Dec-21-04 11:43 PM   #67 
     - Yes they do  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-22-04 07:46 AM   #93 
     - If the question "was Jesus gay" pushes people away...  Jesus H. Christ   Dec-22-04 06:28 PM   #126 
        - It did appear to be flame-igniting, at first glance.  Undercover Owl   Dec-23-04 05:29 AM   #145 
        - Oh, but you are wrong  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-23-04 08:27 AM   #154 
           - Again, how is asking if Jesus was gay "bashing"?  Zhade   Dec-23-04 06:37 PM   #184 
     - This thread has become a Christian bashing thread  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-22-04 07:48 AM   #94 
        - Where?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-23-04 11:02 AM   #160 
           - Those were a half-attempt to make fun of BISEXUALS, in fact.  Zhade   Dec-23-04 11:37 AM   #162 
              - I like threads like this  Behind the Aegis   Dec-23-04 11:59 AM   #172 
  - He was not simply divine, darling  Lilith Velkor   Dec-22-04 01:08 AM   #71 
  - No he wasn't, because the throw pillows didn't match the curtains. Sorry.  bobweaver   Dec-22-04 01:14 AM   #72 
  - Were Joseph and Mary straight? If the conception was "immaculate"?  bobweaver   Dec-22-04 01:18 AM   #73 
  - Jesus never existed.  manhattanite   Dec-22-04 01:20 AM   #74 
  - Horse pucky! He DOES exist!  Swamp Rat   Dec-22-04 04:23 AM   #82 
  - Of course he did  AliciaKeyedUp   Dec-22-04 06:25 PM   #124 
     - Really no proof  FM Arouet666   Dec-22-04 09:04 PM   #130 
  - remember Mary Magdalene?  imenja   Dec-22-04 02:42 AM   #78 
  - no, but he was fabulous  Must_B_Free   Dec-22-04 02:44 AM   #79 
  - hehee  indigobusiness   Dec-22-04 04:05 AM   #80 
  - He was married to Mary "Magdalene" from the Benjamite tribe...  RBHam   Dec-22-04 04:13 AM   #81 
  - Sure, why not?  Swamp Rat   Dec-22-04 04:27 AM   #83 
  - he's buried in layers of politics, editing and wishful thinking. I don't  roguevalley   Dec-22-04 05:40 AM   #84 
     - HOW OLD ARE YOU? SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE THERE.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-22-04 06:21 AM   #86 
     - I'm a few centuries short but I read a lot and my area of  roguevalley   Dec-22-04 03:31 PM   #103 
     - OK, but he was definately black.  Swamp Rat   Dec-22-04 07:38 AM   #91 
     - wishful conclusions? thanks for the neat compliment,did i make my  orpupilofnature57   Dec-22-04 04:54 PM   #106 
  - yes, and i think john was his lover.  xchrom   Dec-22-04 06:46 AM   #87 
  - Jesus loved everyone  AliciaKeyedUp   Dec-22-04 06:47 AM   #88 
  - How can a Man-Made myth be gay OR straight?  RetroLounge   Dec-22-04 06:51 AM   #89 
  - All "myths" are man made  Razorback_Democrat   Dec-22-04 07:50 AM   #95 
  - Jesus is a historical figure  superconnected   Dec-22-04 05:02 PM   #110 
     - Actually, no, he isn't.  Jesus H. Christ   Dec-22-04 06:02 PM   #120 
     - The struggle to find the historical Jesus  Az   Dec-22-04 06:21 PM   #122 
        - oh really  superconnected   Dec-22-04 08:33 PM   #127 
  - he was an observant religious jew from a respected and wealthy family  RUDUing2   Dec-22-04 08:16 AM   #96 
  - Since I'm queer, why would I "denigrate" Jesus by asking if he was gay?  Zhade   Dec-23-04 11:44 AM   #163 
     - because it is a favorite tactic used to try and lessen Jesus and to divert  RUDUing2   Dec-23-04 12:26 PM   #173 
        - Again, how is asking if Jesus was gay "lessening" him?  Zhade   Dec-23-04 12:53 PM   #177 
           - not a thing...I thought you were using this as a way of promoting  RUDUing2   Dec-23-04 12:57 PM   #179 
              - Ah! We're good then, friend.  Zhade   Dec-23-04 06:26 PM   #182 
  - does it bloody matter?  lionesspriyanka   Dec-22-04 04:58 PM   #107 
  - I always though Jesus was friendly with the ladies  superconnected   Dec-22-04 05:01 PM   #108 
  - Is that why Paul seems so homophobic?  Zhade   Dec-23-04 11:50 AM   #166 
  - I voted no  Boosterman   Dec-22-04 05:24 PM   #114 
  - I think the same way.  superconnected   Dec-22-04 05:30 PM   #117 
  - Really good post, thanks for the thoughts.  Zhade   Dec-23-04 11:51 AM   #168 
  - Who wrote this poll, CNN?  Bluebear   Dec-22-04 05:29 PM   #116 
  - Some sources suggesting he was gay  Az   Dec-22-04 06:00 PM   #119 
  - non-sexual  Johonny   Dec-22-04 06:24 PM   #123 
  - Hehe, evidence he says  Az   Dec-22-04 06:25 PM   #125 
     - actually you're supposed to come up with evidence he didn't exist  superconnected   Dec-22-04 08:37 PM   #129 
        - Another time another place  Az   Dec-22-04 09:41 PM   #135 
        - Not that I want to go there, but a reminder: can't prove a negative.  Zhade   Dec-23-04 11:53 AM   #169 
  - I don't understand why you're asking this question?  Placebo   Dec-22-04 09:43 PM   #136 
  - maybe...  jellybelly   Dec-22-04 09:50 PM   #137 
  - Huh?!  Behind the Aegis   Dec-22-04 10:06 PM   #139 
  - you are weird.  Undercover Owl   Dec-23-04 05:43 AM   #147 
  - will this piss the fundies off  Obviousman   Dec-22-04 11:18 PM   #142 
  - I don't know and you don't know either.  bklyncowgirl   Dec-23-04 06:11 AM   #148 
  - Jesus led a sinless life.  infusionman   Dec-23-04 07:44 AM   #151 
  - If Jesus were gay, it would have been a sin?  Zhade   Dec-23-04 06:41 PM   #185 
  - Would it then be fair to say his followers likewise do not know?  Zhade   Dec-23-04 11:56 AM   #170 
  - This thread is fascinating  Stuckinthebush   Dec-23-04 09:34 AM   #156 
  - You're absolutely right.  Tafiti   Dec-23-04 11:50 AM   #167 
  - It sure is. Kinda surprising, too.  Zhade   Dec-23-04 11:59 AM   #171 
  - I figured your question was based on McNally's play/book  RUDUing2   Dec-23-04 12:48 PM   #175 
     - No, I've never heard of McNally's work.  Zhade   Dec-23-04 12:52 PM   #176 
        - Corpus Christi depicts a Jesus and his disciples as being  RUDUing2   Dec-23-04 12:55 PM   #178 
           - Hmmm...sounds just as negative toward gays as toward Jesus.  Zhade   Dec-23-04 06:26 PM   #181 
  - sorry this should be in reply to zhade.  RUDUing2   Dec-23-04 12:46 PM   #174 
  - Why the f*ck does it matter?  catbert836   Dec-23-04 10:26 AM   #157 
  - Perhaps....  princehal   Dec-23-04 09:16 PM   #186 
  - That's a good extrapolation of the original question. I like it!  Zhade   Dec-24-04 02:29 PM   #193 
  - other, jesus was non existent fictious legendary character sans sexuality  Is It Fascism Yet   Dec-27-04 07:53 AM   #194 
  - a provocative question  sui generis   Dec-27-04 09:14 AM   #196 
  - I believe Jesus was an Eunich  Mabeline   Jan-02-05 08:31 AM   #198 
 

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