Reply #93: It's a damn good try and might give one pause, but only pause

[deacon_sephiroth]

Daniel Dennett was talking about William Lane Craig, but what he said applies to this and so many of the "arguments" put forth by modern apologists. Some thing are mind boggling, and counter intuitive, but you can't use your gut feelings and every day common sense on some of the findings of advanced sciences, you can't use mind bogglingness as your litmus test for fact. Irreducible Complexity is one example in biology, but you find such things, dutifully pointed out in quantum mechanics, cosmology, and plenty of places that apologists have found fun thought experiments that are very difficult to wrap your head around IF you are ignorant of the topic or field. Or for that matter you can be versed in the field and still some concepts, some facts, some math, some evidence is difficult to push past your base gut instincts, but the truth is in the science... always.

The REAL experts in the fields, the REAL knowledgeable individuals DO understand and they DO agree and they are NEVER in agreement with these pseudo-intellectual wolves in scientist's clothing out to make a buck from the holy rollers.

I'm sorry but "I don't understand this therefor it must not be true." does not work. That is not a declaration of the factual nature of the topic but a declaration from the speaker of their ignorance, OFTEN PURPOSEFUL.

Some of the people listening to the apologists and nodding their heads in agreement should be ASHAMED of themselves. Someone with a degree (which in some poster's world is instant and irrevocable credibility) tells you something you've likely never even heard of, tells you half the story, tells you it's too hard to understand and tells you that you don't understand it, then encourages you to give up, and default to make-believe because it's easy and fun and will make you feel comfortable and safe again, free from the uncertainty of thought and the difficulty of complex concepts... well fuck him/her!

How dare these people masquerade as scientists while spewing such unproductive venom into the population. How dare they preach the death of thought and progress and advocate giving up and calling it magic, who gave them degrees in the first place, how did they ever get that far with such a pathetic attitude? Disgraceful, and it makes me sick....

so sick..... so fucking sick.... that I completely go off on tangents in reply to a short comment by Silent3...

not sure that was called for, but there it is.