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MarkCharles Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:48 PM
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39. No Universalist believes in a hell. Few if any believe in a god.
Your point?
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  -Delighting in Hell. MarkCharles  Nov-18-11 06:24 PM   #0 
  - Jimmy Swaggart  rpannier   Nov-18-11 06:26 PM   #1 
  - I was in North Carolina at that time.  OffWithTheirHeads   Nov-18-11 06:53 PM   #13 
     - That was Jimmy Baker of "Jimmy and Tammy Fae" fame.  HubertHeaver   Nov-18-11 07:46 PM   #32 
        - and the difference is?  OffWithTheirHeads   Nov-18-11 08:36 PM   #37 
           - One is the religious shyster on your right, the other is the  HubertHeaver   Nov-18-11 10:51 PM   #42 
  - It's your choice to burn in hell  NMMNG   Nov-18-11 06:31 PM   #2 
  - This guy has had a long obsession with hell.  rug   Nov-18-11 06:32 PM   #3 
  - How about the thousands of years of "obsession" that Christians have had?  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 06:36 PM   #4 
     - A theology of hell is much different than an obsession with hell.  rug   Nov-18-11 06:38 PM   #5 
        - Oh? And what, pray tell, is a theology of hell?  LAGC   Nov-18-11 06:41 PM   #7 
        - If you're religious it's a "theology of hell"  NMMNG   Nov-18-11 06:43 PM   #8 
        - Who said that? I must have missed it.  rug   Nov-18-11 06:44 PM   #10 
        - An oft-discussed topic.  rug   Nov-18-11 06:43 PM   #9 
        - A theology of hell? So you admit there is one?  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 06:45 PM   #11 
        - Of course there's a theology of hell.  rug   Nov-18-11 06:52 PM   #12 
           - Does there exist a NON twisted theology of hell? If so, can you point to it?  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 06:59 PM   #15 
              - Us,  rug   Nov-18-11 07:04 PM   #17 
                 - In other words, you cannot. End of pointless discussion of ..  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 07:08 PM   #19 
                 - If you indeed had an interest in religions and theology, you wouldn't have had to ask.  rug   Nov-18-11 07:15 PM   #20 
                    - I AM the OP! All thinking about a hell is twisted, if you had bothered to read the links.  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 07:19 PM   #21 
                       - OP is original post, not poster, and it isn't even original.  rug   Nov-18-11 07:22 PM   #22 
                          - Sorry, there are TWO original LINKS in MY ORIGINAL POST!  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 07:24 PM   #23 
                          - "Poor guy"  NMMNG   Nov-18-11 07:33 PM   #26 
                 - The point is you act like someone who is ashamed to stand up...  Silent3   Nov-19-11 01:41 PM   #45 
                    - The point is it's a rather uniformed question coming from someone who boasts of being informed.  rug   Nov-19-11 03:03 PM   #49 
                       - So you are now going to give a direct answer to the question I asked you  MarkCharles   Nov-19-11 03:07 PM   #50 
                       - See 48.  rug   Nov-19-11 03:17 PM   #51 
                       - You seem to so often have an excuse...  Silent3   Nov-19-11 08:22 PM   #83 
                          - Dazzle? Ok.  rug   Nov-19-11 08:45 PM   #88 
        - This theology of hell you speak of, I feel you should define it in your own words  Angry Dragon   Nov-19-11 02:29 PM   #46 
           - Nor do I! Funny how believers can't be direct and forthcoming about  MarkCharles   Nov-19-11 02:30 PM   #47 
           - Allow me.  rug   Nov-19-11 03:00 PM   #48 
              - In other words, search through the gobledygook of religious fantasy and myth  MarkCharles   Nov-19-11 03:40 PM   #52 
                 - I see your point. It's a lot easier to throw bullshit out about what people believe than to learn.  rug   Nov-19-11 03:45 PM   #53 
                    - So you want me to read what other people believe and not what you believe??  Angry Dragon   Nov-19-11 04:24 PM   #54 
                    - Generally, the more you know about what you're discussing, the more fruitful the discussion.  rug   Nov-19-11 04:58 PM   #56 
                       - I guess you practice the inverse  Angry Dragon   Nov-19-11 05:05 PM   #58 
                          - "That in my mind is a huge cop-out" in MY mind, too.  MarkCharles   Nov-19-11 05:09 PM   #59 
                          - The key phrase is "in my mind".  rug   Nov-19-11 05:14 PM   #60 
                             - but you had no problem bringing it up again  Angry Dragon   Nov-19-11 05:18 PM   #61 
                                - Actually, the OP brought it up.  rug   Nov-19-11 05:22 PM   #62 
                                   - you brought up the 'theology of hell' I asked you to explain it  Angry Dragon   Nov-19-11 05:31 PM   #64 
                                      - The difference is simple.  rug   Nov-19-11 06:58 PM   #72 
                                         - Well, we'd really like to hear your caricature.  LAGC   Nov-19-11 07:43 PM   #75 
                                            - I don't have a caricature. And when I see one I point it out.  rug   Nov-19-11 07:55 PM   #77 
                                               - "We" meaning everyone who has been trying to get you to debate instead of dodge.  LAGC   Nov-19-11 07:58 PM   #78 
                                                  - Oh, are you speaking, then, for everyone?  rug   Nov-19-11 08:02 PM   #79 
                                                  - No, just the kind folks in this thread.  LAGC   Nov-19-11 08:10 PM   #80 
                                                  - I fear my cat more than your (whoever they are) "kind folks".  rug   Nov-19-11 08:17 PM   #81 
                                                  - Whatever.  LAGC   Nov-19-11 08:21 PM   #82 
                                                  - Don't worry. My expectations here are quite low.  rug   Nov-19-11 08:24 PM   #84 
                                                  - Then why do you bother posting here at all?  LAGC   Nov-19-11 08:28 PM   #85 
                                                  - Because I find religion and theology quite interesting in all facets.  rug   Nov-19-11 08:37 PM   #86 
                                                  - Stop baiting people and you'll find far less to lower your expectations.  darkstar3   Nov-19-11 08:40 PM   #87 
                                                  - You are the master baiter. And thanks for confirming I've discussed this subject already ad nauseam.  rug   Nov-19-11 08:46 PM   #89 
                                                  - Oh please. You haven't "discussed" anything.  darkstar3   Nov-19-11 08:51 PM   #90 
                                                  - I'm sorry you consider anything other than agreement and high fives to be less than a discussion.  rug   Nov-19-11 08:53 PM   #91 
                                                  - You know that isn't what I said. Where is your answer on the question of hell?  darkstar3   Nov-19-11 08:56 PM   #92 
                    - My "point", from the first question I asked, up until now, is to ask what YOU...  MarkCharles   Nov-19-11 04:36 PM   #55 
                       - See 56.  rug   Nov-19-11 04:59 PM   #57 
  - It was the constant threat of hell that turned me away from religion before I even turned 7.  Speck Tater   Nov-18-11 06:39 PM   #6 
  - Long history of Universalist.  safeinOhio   Nov-18-11 06:58 PM   #14 
  - Good link. Lots of info there.  rug   Nov-18-11 07:06 PM   #18 
  - No Universalist believes in a hell. Few if any believe in a god.  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 08:48 PM   #39 
     - You are thinking of Universalist Unitarians  safeinOhio   Nov-19-11 05:56 AM   #43 
  - One thing I believe about God is we can't even begin to  libinnyandia   Nov-18-11 07:02 PM   #16 
  - It seems to me that anyone that delights in the idea of people roasting in hell...  Tyrs WolfDaemon   Nov-18-11 07:29 PM   #24 
  - The concept of a hell is the flip side of the religious coin, if you don't...  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 07:33 PM   #25 
  - Tremendous insight.  rug   Nov-18-11 07:37 PM   #28 
     - I;m beginning to think you're more of a Simpson's fan, like  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 07:45 PM   #31 
        - I love The Simpsons.  rug   Nov-18-11 07:54 PM   #33 
           - The Simpsons, like Herman Cain, are entertainment for simple minded  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 07:57 PM   #34 
              - Lol.  rug   Nov-18-11 07:59 PM   #35 
                 - Thanks, you do Simpson-minded very well.  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 08:32 PM   #36 
                    - You are definitely in luck then  WhollyHeretic   Nov-19-11 07:49 PM   #76 
  - Considering some of the people who insist they're going to "heaven",  NMMNG   Nov-18-11 07:37 PM   #27 
     - Yeah, I sort of like a good warm winter, too! Of course, we all know that  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 07:41 PM   #29 
  - Everyone's got to believe in something, I believe I'll have another  HysteryDiagnosis   Nov-18-11 07:45 PM   #30 
  - Heaven and Hell coexist on Planet Earth at this very moment. I don't need prophecies.  freshwest   Nov-18-11 08:38 PM   #38 
  - Giving a blank check to believers, are we?  MarkCharles   Nov-18-11 08:49 PM   #40 
     - We? Who's We? I thought it was clear I'm not in either camp, and don't argue with those in either.  freshwest   Nov-18-11 10:05 PM   #41 
  - Some feel that our concept of hell was invented by invented by Catholic theologians ...  spin   Nov-19-11 10:33 AM   #44 
  - i get around a lot in Christian circles.  Thats my opinion   Nov-19-11 05:27 PM   #63 
     - Well, here's a half dozen "Christian circles" you haven't visited in the last 10 years!!!  MarkCharles   Nov-19-11 05:43 PM   #65 
     - Of course the statistics you cite  Thats my opinion   Nov-19-11 06:53 PM   #70 
        - No, you wouldn't be interested.  darkstar3   Nov-19-11 06:57 PM   #71 
     - I'm interested to know YOUR idea of hell. Will you tell me? nt.  Mariana   Nov-19-11 06:41 PM   #66 
     - Gladly!  MarkCharles   Nov-19-11 06:49 PM   #68 
        - I want to know what TMO thinks about it,  Mariana   Nov-19-11 09:28 PM   #93 
     - Please, don't tell us that your admittedly isolated California experience represents all of Xtianity  darkstar3   Nov-19-11 06:48 PM   #67 
     - California is the center of the nation, which is the center of the world, which is....  MarkCharles   Nov-19-11 06:51 PM   #69 
     - Oh, but he's a preacher man, and a theologian  NMMNG   Nov-19-11 07:40 PM   #74 
        - But just perhaps,  Thats my opinion   Nov-19-11 11:14 PM   #94 
           - Just perhaps  NMMNG   Nov-19-11 11:29 PM   #95 
           - Or perhaps, what you describe is an insulated existence in a homogeneous group.  darkstar3   Nov-19-11 11:43 PM   #96 
     - Maybe you should expand your Christian circle  NMMNG   Nov-19-11 07:38 PM   #73 

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