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Sat Nov-19-11 04:18 PM
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| 39. So where does this "known" problem |
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manifest itself? What state of egregious error does science find itself in currently as a result of this "problem"?
And incrementalism is not consciously preferred in science, but is simply more common and more likely to occur. Proper and rational changes in scientific understanding should be based on evidence sufficient to overturn existing tenets. Large changes require the accumulation of more evidence, which takes more time and occurs less often. Small changes require less evidence. Not a hard concept.
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| -The Trouble with Skepticism |
Speck Tater |
Nov-18-11 12:27 PM |
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When both sides think you're an idiot, sometimes you just are one. |
Cronus Protagonist |
Nov-18-11 12:30 PM |
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I'm not sure about this. |
dtexdem |
Nov-18-11 12:30 PM |
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Keep up the good work! :) Healthy skepticism is vital. nt |
Speck Tater |
Nov-18-11 03:31 PM |
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Such as... |
zipplewrath |
Nov-18-11 12:37 PM |
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A few examples... |
Speck Tater |
Nov-18-11 02:48 PM |
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You have a broad description of skeptic |
zipplewrath |
Nov-18-11 03:44 PM |
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And skeptics redefine "skeptic" to exclude each failure, thereby... |
Speck Tater |
Nov-18-11 06:30 PM |
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Fine, then provide us with evidence |
skepticscott |
Nov-18-11 07:27 PM |
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OK. You win. You're right. I change my mind. nt |
Speck Tater |
Nov-18-11 07:50 PM |
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Translation: I have no evidence to back up my claims |
skepticscott |
Nov-18-11 07:54 PM |
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Yup. You're right. You're always right. I conceed. nt |
Speck Tater |
Nov-18-11 08:25 PM |
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Two examples: Wegener and Copernicus. |
Jim__ |
Nov-19-11 06:09 AM |
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I like your examples |
zipplewrath |
Nov-19-11 04:06 PM |
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So where does this "known" problem |
skepticscott |
Nov-19-11 04:18 PM |
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"Large changes require the accumulation of more evidence, which takes more time"... |
MarkCharles |
Nov-19-11 04:26 PM |
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Strange too |
skepticscott |
Nov-19-11 05:25 PM |
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The rejection of Wegener had to do with geologists being overly deferential to physicists... |
Odin2005 |
Nov-21-11 09:11 PM |
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*shrug* No one is perfect. Anyone can make a mistake. nt |
Deep13 |
Nov-18-11 12:42 PM |
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Skeptic and Cynic |
PATRICK |
Nov-18-11 12:44 PM |
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See Carl Sagan's 'The Burden of Skepticism' |
pokerfan |
Nov-18-11 02:55 PM |
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+1000 Exactly my point. People who call themselves skeptics are often utterly closed minded. nt |
Speck Tater |
Nov-18-11 03:30 PM |
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That is simply self-contradictory. Skeptics' first obligation is |
MarkCharles |
Nov-18-11 03:49 PM |
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I have my doubts about that. |
jeepnstein |
Nov-18-11 03:16 PM |
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Good for you! :) nt |
Speck Tater |
Nov-18-11 03:30 PM |
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First of all |
skepticscott |
Nov-18-11 04:57 PM |
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Well stated! Thank you! |
MarkCharles |
Nov-18-11 05:03 PM |
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Right. When skeptics |
frogmarch |
Nov-18-11 05:26 PM |
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And how exactly do you define |
skepticscott |
Nov-18-11 05:37 PM |
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Donald Menzel was an |
frogmarch |
Nov-18-11 06:35 PM |
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"without any evidence to support their claims" |
MarkCharles |
Nov-18-11 06:38 PM |
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I'm an atheist, so |
frogmarch |
Nov-18-11 06:43 PM |
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I'm waiting too. Been waiting over fifty years for evidence. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Nov-19-11 04:25 PM |
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Sorry, but you're dead wrong about Klass |
skepticscott |
Nov-18-11 07:19 PM |
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Klass was |
frogmarch |
Nov-18-11 08:36 PM |
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All of which fails to show any instance |
skepticscott |
Nov-18-11 09:02 PM |
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No, and I didn't ever argue that evidence was |
frogmarch |
Nov-18-11 09:30 PM |
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Just above, you said about Klass |
skepticscott |
Nov-18-11 09:48 PM |
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What's your deal? |
frogmarch |
Nov-20-11 05:58 PM |
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I can understand why you'd want to call it nitpicking |
skepticscott |
Nov-20-11 06:30 PM |
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Klass |
frogmarch |
Nov-20-11 07:29 PM |
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So can you cite ONE case |
skepticscott |
Nov-20-11 08:09 PM |
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I see what you are saying, but if a more reasonable and plausible explanation is to be found... |
cleanhippie |
Nov-20-11 09:13 PM |
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+1 |
freshwest |
Nov-18-11 06:02 PM |
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Word of advice, don't criticize a subject that you aren't versed in... |
Humanist_Activist |
Nov-18-11 08:04 PM |
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+1,000,000 |
MarkCharles |
Nov-18-11 08:13 PM |
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Good news |
skepticscott |
Nov-18-11 09:04 PM |
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... |
NMMNG |
Nov-18-11 09:09 PM |
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Your understanding of skepticism is on par with your understanding... |
Silent3 |
Nov-19-11 02:48 PM |
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Not at all - in fact skeptics ADMIT their failures, and re run the tests |
Taverner |
Nov-22-11 11:49 AM |
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If a skeptic thinks he's always right, then he's not a skeptic :-P |
Demstud |
Nov-22-11 01:10 PM |
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