trotsky
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Wed Nov-16-11 05:20 PM
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| 19. You could probably scour the Internet and find plenty of stories about religion doing good. |
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The fact that you're an atheist (right?) means that you've decided religion doesn't have enough redeeming qualities for you to follow one. I think you've already answered your own question, but again, That's my opinion.
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| -What are some of the positive things atheists can say about religions, and |
MarkCharles |
Nov-16-11 03:39 PM |
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Wait. Positive things to say about religions or religious people? |
GodlessBiker |
Nov-16-11 03:42 PM |
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NO, Not specific people, or people who are religious in general, but the ... |
MarkCharles |
Nov-16-11 03:45 PM |
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But you cite religious people doing positive good things. Why include them... |
GodlessBiker |
Nov-16-11 07:24 PM |
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Behavior is an individual characteristic. It's independent of religion. |
MineralMan |
Nov-16-11 03:43 PM |
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I would have to agree with you in general. But we, as atheists, agnostics, or |
MarkCharles |
Nov-16-11 03:50 PM |
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I am an atheist. I do not agree that I "must admit" anything. |
MineralMan |
Nov-16-11 03:57 PM |
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Except that what people believe governs what they do. nt |
Deep13 |
Nov-16-11 07:31 PM |
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Religion is excellent at controlling people and regulating their thoughts. |
laconicsax |
Nov-16-11 03:45 PM |
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goddamnit! you beat me! |
ret5hd |
Nov-16-11 03:50 PM |
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Why ask about saying positive things about religions? |
dtexdem |
Nov-16-11 03:46 PM |
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Perhaps you are three or four threads ahead of me. My purpose in this |
MarkCharles |
Nov-16-11 03:56 PM |
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apparently the threat of eternal damnation |
bowens43 |
Nov-16-11 03:54 PM |
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What are some of the positive things religions have said about atheists? |
tridim |
Nov-16-11 04:03 PM |
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You beat me to the post! nt |
raccoon |
Nov-17-11 09:29 AM |
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Allow me to let you in on a little secret: |
trotsky |
Nov-16-11 04:06 PM |
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I would certainly agree with you there! I'm not debating that. |
MarkCharles |
Nov-16-11 04:25 PM |
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I do not understand your point. |
trotsky |
Nov-16-11 04:37 PM |
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Well, maybe I'm not stating it specifically, because I'm just asking a question. |
MarkCharles |
Nov-16-11 05:07 PM |
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You could probably scour the Internet and find plenty of stories about religion doing good. |
trotsky |
Nov-16-11 05:20 PM |
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Nov-16-11 05:30 PM |
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Religion undermines critical thinking and allows despots to rule. nt |
valerief |
Nov-16-11 04:51 PM |
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It is a comfort to many people. |
LeftishBrit |
Nov-16-11 04:51 PM |
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Why should they?? |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-16-11 05:15 PM |
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some nice art and music. Michelangelo would LOVE computers! nt |
msongs |
Nov-16-11 05:25 PM |
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People did those things, not religion. Religion merely provided the subject matter. |
cleanhippie |
Nov-16-11 06:51 PM |
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"Universal features of a species demand a Darwinian solution." - Richard Dawkins. |
Jim__ |
Nov-16-11 05:42 PM |
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Racism/xenophobia is also a universal feature of human culture. |
trotsky |
Nov-16-11 07:04 PM |
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If you can find a neanderthal, ask him if xenophobia serves a survival function. |
Jim__ |
Nov-17-11 06:57 AM |
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You do the same thing with a neanderthal and religion, mmkay? |
trotsky |
Nov-17-11 07:13 AM |
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No. I'm saying denial is stupid; analysis is not. |
Jim__ |
Nov-17-11 07:39 AM |
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Which is exactly what Dawkins does in his book. |
trotsky |
Nov-17-11 07:45 AM |
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Dawkins merely speculates in his book. |
Jim__ |
Nov-17-11 07:56 AM |
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You haven't actually read the book, have you? |
trotsky |
Nov-17-11 07:59 AM |
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Yes, I have. |
Jim__ |
Nov-17-11 08:34 AM |
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So apart from interviewing your Neanderthal friend, |
trotsky |
Nov-17-11 08:42 AM |
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You do realize this is a subject that is being actively researched. |
Jim__ |
Nov-17-11 04:45 PM |
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If that's how you want to back off your claims, that's OK. |
trotsky |
Nov-17-11 06:32 PM |
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Offers or *offered* a survival advantage |
Silent3 |
Nov-17-11 07:18 AM |
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We do analysis because we don't know the answer. |
Jim__ |
Nov-17-11 07:47 AM |
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I didn't say it played a role in the survival advantage... |
Silent3 |
Nov-17-11 09:39 AM |
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Karl Marx: |
pnorman |
Nov-16-11 05:51 PM |
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The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people... |
Deep13 |
Nov-16-11 07:34 PM |
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It provides comfort and purpose to some people |
NMMNG |
Nov-16-11 06:23 PM |
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Why do you limit religions benefits to |
LARED |
Nov-16-11 06:34 PM |
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It feels good to cooperate. |
rrneck |
Nov-16-11 07:47 PM |
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IMO for SOME people it is a necessay step... |
Odin2005 |
Nov-16-11 09:50 PM |
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IIRC, at least one study shows that music lessons have the same benefit. n/t |
laconicsax |
Nov-16-11 11:05 PM |
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really cool buildings? nt |
dmallind |
Nov-16-11 10:13 PM |
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I love the gargoyles at Notre Dame de Paris. |
beam me up scottie |
Nov-16-11 10:30 PM |
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I'll second (or third) that |
deacon_sephiroth |
Nov-17-11 02:13 AM |
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People can leave them. |
Deep13 |
Nov-17-11 08:55 AM |
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Christianity has helped |
frogmarch |
Nov-17-11 05:19 PM |
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religion provides comfort |
qazplm |
Nov-17-11 06:50 PM |
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