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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 07:29 PM
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78. And on TV, radio, newspapers, internet, on the street, in the history books,
at conventions, in parades, and on DU. Besides that it's hard to find. when Hitchens exhorted his audience to show "ridicule, hatred, and contempt for religion", he must've been standing alone in the shower, no doubt. LOL
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  -Science as religion rug  Nov-13-11 10:13 AM   #0 
  - A calm rational discussion of the topic - a refreshing change. - n/t  Jim__   Nov-13-11 10:52 AM   #1 
  - Interesting how believers, theists, followers of a religion, want to  MarkCharles   Nov-13-11 11:09 AM   #2 
  - I wonder  rrneck   Nov-13-11 11:19 AM   #3 
     - Why thank you! As a rational human being, I have a "fondness" for  MarkCharles   Nov-13-11 03:44 PM   #11 
        - "Sticking his nose in the door"  rrneck   Nov-13-11 03:54 PM   #12 
           - I have a "fondness" for puppies and kittens and full grown cats, and maybe  MarkCharles   Nov-13-11 04:27 PM   #19 
           - Ah. Another way of knowing.  rrneck   Nov-13-11 05:27 PM   #22 
           - So figurative language and onomatopoeia is "another way of knowing"?  Goblinmonger   Nov-13-11 06:37 PM   #25 
              - I know his feelings on the subject. nt  rrneck   Nov-13-11 06:39 PM   #26 
                 - Not sure I even know what that means, but OK.  Goblinmonger   Nov-14-11 12:07 PM   #64 
                    - LOL! Nobody does dawg.  rrneck   Nov-14-11 12:29 PM   #66 
  - unrec.  Odin2005   Nov-13-11 11:24 AM   #4 
  - How is science a religion? That's ridiculous.  MineralMan   Nov-13-11 12:38 PM   #5 
  - No, it's not ridiculous.  bananas   Nov-13-11 03:56 PM   #13 
     - Science relies on facts and alters when new facts come to light  Warpy   Nov-13-11 04:03 PM   #16 
     - If one has an understanding of the discipline of science, and one did not  MarkCharles   Nov-13-11 04:04 PM   #17 
     - How silly. Scientism is not science.  MineralMan   Nov-13-11 07:12 PM   #33 
     - Yes, it IS in fact ridiculous. Science and religion are opposite in many ways and are incompatible.  Towlie   Nov-13-11 11:05 PM   #42 
        - No, they're not incompatible. nt  bananas   Nov-14-11 12:58 AM   #48 
           - Free inquiry vs. divine mandate. Yes, they are incompatible.  darkstar3   Nov-14-11 01:09 AM   #50 
  - It's become a religion.  humblebum   Nov-13-11 12:41 PM   #6 
  - No, it hasn't. Your link demonstrates nothing of the sort.  MineralMan   Nov-13-11 01:38 PM   #9 
  - People make religions out of the darndest things.  bananas   Nov-13-11 04:03 PM   #14 
     - Name one person for whom science has become a religion,  trotsky   Nov-13-11 04:08 PM   #18 
     - Oh, I'm sure s/he can give a "bunch" of reasons, but s/he will never actually give them.  cleanhippie   Nov-13-11 04:40 PM   #20 
     - 'Science' as such is very rarely treated as a religion.  LeftishBrit   Nov-14-11 05:33 AM   #63 
     - Very few people in the sciences confuse science with religion.  MineralMan   Nov-13-11 07:07 PM   #31 
        - I am will int bet that NOT ONE OF THOSE "people in the sciences" thinkers, leaders  MarkCharles   Nov-13-11 07:37 PM   #38 
  - Prove it.  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 01:58 AM   #54 
     - Wait, but don't hold your breath  NMMNG   Nov-14-11 02:37 AM   #55 
        - Why how kind :)  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 03:00 AM   #60 
  - Science itself says "we don't know" a lot. People who use it as religion say "it can't be" a lot  saras   Nov-13-11 01:24 PM   #7 
  - Religion itself says "God did it" a lot. People who use it to explain  MineralMan   Nov-13-11 01:37 PM   #8 
  - Science and religion approach hypotheses from two very different directions.  darkstar3   Nov-13-11 02:44 PM   #10 
  - Odd then that the scientific method is used to measure scriptures.  rug   Nov-13-11 05:59 PM   #23 
     - Sort of makes anything written in the scriptures totally false, unprovable  MarkCharles   Nov-13-11 06:44 PM   #28 
     - NOMA doesn't work when scriptures make reference to scientifically testable phenomena.  darkstar3   Nov-13-11 06:54 PM   #30 
     - Where in scripture does it mention or reference "scientifically testable phenomena?" nt  humblebum   Nov-13-11 07:17 PM   #34 
     - You cannot possibly be serious.  darkstar3   Nov-13-11 11:09 PM   #43 
        - You did not answer my question. The Bible does not make the claim  humblebum   Nov-14-11 01:31 AM   #52 
           - Your question was predicated on a falsehood, namely, that you don't already know the answer.  darkstar3   Nov-14-11 08:13 PM   #81 
     - Trying to discredit NOMA is one more example of atheism being  humblebum   Nov-13-11 07:20 PM   #35 
        - Define "freethinker"  NMMNG   Nov-13-11 07:24 PM   #36 
           - Um? The ability to think uninhibited and the existence of an environment  humblebum   Nov-13-11 07:30 PM   #37 
              - Bzzzzt Wrong.  NMMNG   Nov-13-11 07:39 PM   #39 
              - That seems to fit my definition quite well.  humblebum   Nov-13-11 10:54 PM   #41 
                 - As usual  NMMNG   Nov-14-11 12:38 AM   #44 
                    - i have noticed that many atheists do have trouble with people thinking freely.  humblebum   Nov-14-11 12:46 AM   #45 
                       - The word you meant to use was "sloppily".  darkstar3   Nov-14-11 12:53 AM   #46 
                          - Point proven. My thought processes do not depend on your assessment of them.  humblebum   Nov-14-11 12:57 AM   #47 
                             - Oh, you proved a point, but not the one you think.  darkstar3   Nov-14-11 01:08 AM   #49 
                                - There you go again, telling me what I think. nt  humblebum   Nov-14-11 01:11 AM   #51 
                                   - There you go again, telling us what we think and redefining atheism to suit your agenda.  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 01:56 AM   #53 
                                      - So then, you are telling me that  humblebum   Nov-14-11 02:39 AM   #56 
                                      - Fail. I'm telling you that redefining atheism and telling me what I believe and don't is intolerant  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 02:54 AM   #58 
                                         - I believe you were the one that chimed in here. And if you think  humblebum   Nov-14-11 05:11 AM   #62 
                                            - You are the one who redefined atheism to validate your bias, how does that not affect me?  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 01:43 PM   #67 
                                            - "The lack of religion has no need to "justify its credibility" because it makes no positive claims."  humblebum   Nov-14-11 02:02 PM   #68 
                                            - Telling us what we believe and calling us liars when we object is not "criticism".  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 02:23 PM   #69 
                                            - You might want to stop considering every bit of criticism as bigotry. Otherwise  humblebum   Nov-14-11 04:44 PM   #71 
                                            - "radical and organized atheism" only exists in the minds of paranoid religionists.  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 05:00 PM   #72 
                                            - And on TV, radio, newspapers, internet, on the street, in the history books,  humblebum   Nov-14-11 07:29 PM   #78 
                                            - SQUIRREL!!!  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 08:08 PM   #79 
                                            - And the truth comes out. nt  humblebum   Nov-14-11 08:12 PM   #80 
                                            - Deal with it. Private lives are none of your or your religion's business.  darkstar3   Nov-14-11 08:14 PM   #82 
                                            - Ya mean like when Dawkins signed the petition to make it illegal  humblebum   Nov-14-11 08:25 PM   #83 
                                            - So you think Richard Dawkins = "radical and organized atheism"  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 08:44 PM   #86 
                                            - Well considering he is more radical than some and less than others,  humblebum   Nov-14-11 08:57 PM   #87 
                                            - Oh noes! The "new" atheist movement!  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 09:01 PM   #89 
                                            - Yep-eventually religionists won't be able to force the rest of us to live according to their beliefs  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 08:35 PM   #84 
                                            - Sorry. The world has seen how that works in reality before. And it wasn't religion  humblebum   Nov-14-11 08:39 PM   #85 
                                            - That's right, it wasn't religion, it was religionists. And they're still doing it.  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 08:58 PM   #88 
                                            - Are you foaming at the mouth yet? BTW, still waiting to see where i called  humblebum   Nov-14-11 09:13 PM   #90 
                                      - But he can't be engaging in religious bigotry  NMMNG   Nov-14-11 02:46 AM   #57 
                                         - I love how he keeps pulling this stuff out of  beam me up scottie   Nov-14-11 02:55 AM   #59 
                                            - And what a mighty rift it is n/t  NMMNG   Nov-14-11 03:02 AM   #61 
              - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-13-11 07:46 PM   #40 
     - Is it so used? Perhaps you'd show me some referenced to people  MineralMan   Nov-13-11 07:09 PM   #32 
  - Good article, thanks. nt  bananas   Nov-13-11 04:03 PM   #15 
  - Actually that is a very sloppy, illogical, and irrational article, that  MarkCharles   Nov-13-11 05:03 PM   #21 
     - I don't think it was sloppy. No unecessary capitalizations for one thing.  rug   Nov-13-11 06:01 PM   #24 
        - If you cannot distinguish logic and rational thought from  MarkCharles   Nov-13-11 06:40 PM   #27 
           - Actually I do find mischaracterization to be sloppy. Maddeningly so.  rug   Nov-13-11 06:48 PM   #29 
  - It's just that religions get their asses handed to them so often....  Iggo   Nov-14-11 12:28 PM   #65 
  - It's a difficult topic. IME people on both sides of the divide conflate science and scientism.  GliderGuider   Nov-14-11 02:46 PM   #70 
  - It seems to me that  rrneck   Nov-14-11 07:00 PM   #77 
  - Religion as Plumbing Grease  Taverner   Nov-14-11 05:03 PM   #73 
     - Ah, but then who is the plumber? And who is the plugged toilet?  GliderGuider   Nov-14-11 05:34 PM   #74 
        - Ice cream has no bones  Taverner   Nov-14-11 05:36 PM   #75 
           - :-) nt  GliderGuider   Nov-14-11 05:39 PM   #76 

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