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Reply #37: No decision here, I was never indoctrinated. Your deities and dogma weren't even a consideration. [View All]

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #35
37. No decision here, I was never indoctrinated. Your deities and dogma weren't even a consideration.
Education is a vaccine.

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  -Is being an Atheist genetic? "I did not choose to be an Atheist" article... MarkCharles  Nov-10-11 03:58 PM   #0 
  - Were you raised by people who told you that things that MIGHT be true are absolutely true?  PassingFair   Nov-10-11 04:05 PM   #1 
  - I was "raised" by parents who let me think for myself, gave me books, encouraged  MarkCharles   Nov-10-11 04:15 PM   #3 
  - I don't think it's genetic, but I've argued before that I don't "choose" to be an atheist.  jobycom   Nov-10-11 04:11 PM   #2 
  - So you're an Atheist, because of what you have done when thinking on your..  MarkCharles   Nov-10-11 04:23 PM   #5 
     - Not sure I followed that completely, but...  jobycom   Nov-10-11 04:50 PM   #7 
        - "Whether a person is born logical or chooses later to be logical." I think  MarkCharles   Nov-10-11 05:00 PM   #9 
  - My family is Catholic  abelenkpe   Nov-10-11 04:20 PM   #4 
  - At five years old? You were a precocious child, and very brilliant!  MarkCharles   Nov-10-11 04:34 PM   #6 
     - Awwww big families rock  abelenkpe   Nov-11-11 12:42 PM   #31 
  - Like sickle cell anemia or Tay Sachs?  rug   Nov-10-11 04:53 PM   #8 
  - Why shouldn't it be a gene of superior rational thought, rather than a  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 01:09 AM   #11 
     - Tell me when they identify your narcissism gene.  rug   Nov-11-11 08:03 AM   #13 
     - SInce you have already identified yours, do tell where one can find it.  cleanhippie   Nov-11-11 09:11 AM   #15 
        - Oh, there you are.  rug   Nov-11-11 09:58 AM   #18 
     - Slightly off the point...  LeftishBrit   Nov-11-11 08:59 AM   #14 
     - Is the ability to think logically  rrneck   Nov-11-11 10:49 AM   #19 
  - A combination of environment and temperament, no doubt  LeftishBrit   Nov-10-11 05:30 PM   #10 
  - I don't think atheism is genetic  sakabatou   Nov-11-11 01:26 AM   #12 
  - I wouldn't say it's genetic  NMMNG   Nov-11-11 09:26 AM   #16 
  - For me, once I learn the facts and ...  Deep13   Nov-11-11 09:46 AM   #17 
  - Many here vigorously defend the claim that all are born atheists.  humblebum   Nov-11-11 11:30 AM   #20 
  - "we do know that...isolated primative tribes...display an awareness of the supernatural"  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 11:52 AM   #21 
  - Even if there are citations for this, and there may be, but  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 12:02 PM   #22 
     - He's begging the question.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 12:11 PM   #24 
        - Good catch! Yes....  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 12:18 PM   #25 
        - Just the facts, mam. Nothing intended beyond that. nt  humblebum   Nov-11-11 12:37 PM   #27 
           - Your "fact" lacks evidence.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 12:40 PM   #29 
           - When are you going to back up your claims with some facts?  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 03:26 PM   #66 
  - Primitive tribes..are not all "babies"! So I'm not sure how one  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 12:05 PM   #23 
  - Where did "their own lore and "super-natural" explanations of things"  humblebum   Nov-11-11 12:40 PM   #28 
     - Where it always begins,  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 12:41 PM   #30 
        - What is imagination? Is a priori knowledge related to imagination?  humblebum   Nov-11-11 12:44 PM   #32 
        - It's where gods and monsters are hatched and housed.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 12:48 PM   #33 
        - And the decision to be an atheist.  humblebum   Nov-11-11 12:59 PM   #35 
           - No decision here, I was never indoctrinated. Your deities and dogma weren't even a consideration.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 01:22 PM   #37 
              - No. Never. No such thing as atheist indoctrination. cough. ahum. cough. cough. nt  humblebum   Nov-11-11 01:51 PM   #41 
                 - Still waiting for proof "that isolated primative tribes display an awareness of the supernatural"  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 02:00 PM   #44 
                    - Show me an isolated, remote, non-contacted tribe of atheists. nt  humblebum   Nov-11-11 02:07 PM   #46 
                       - Nope, the burden of proof is on you: you made the claim, you back it up.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 02:17 PM   #47 
                       - That's what I thought. There are none, unless they became such.  humblebum   Nov-11-11 02:27 PM   #49 
                          - What?  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 02:34 PM   #52 
                             - I vote for the OBFUSCATE.......believers tend to  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 02:45 PM   #56 
                             - Damn. I'm impressed.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 02:50 PM   #58 
                                - I haven't been HERE for a month, more like a week or two...  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 02:57 PM   #60 
                             - I think I have pretty much proven my point. Certainly no obfuscation.  humblebum   Nov-11-11 02:57 PM   #61 
                                - Nice try. Now please provide evidence that the supernatural exists and can be observed.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 03:02 PM   #63 
                                - "people are born atheists comes from DU atheists, like yourself. Burden is now on you."  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 03:21 PM   #64 
                       - You're asking us to show you an isolated PRIMITIVE tribe of nuclear scientists...  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 02:35 PM   #54 
                       - Don't take the bait.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 02:48 PM   #57 
                       - O OK, sorry, I thought winning meant something else when I was..  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 02:53 PM   #59 
                          - Yep, perception is everything.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 02:59 PM   #62 
                       - Not that silly when the claim is made here quite often that all are born atheists.  humblebum   Nov-11-11 03:22 PM   #65 
                          - So the challenge is out there, prove that statement wrong!  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 05:29 PM   #73 
                       - Depends what's meant by 'atheists'  LeftishBrit   Nov-13-11 09:51 AM   #83 
        - Why not use your "imagination" to answer your own  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 01:07 PM   #36 
           - Don't forget Cargo Cults.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 01:26 PM   #39 
           - Kant and a priori knowledge:  humblebum   Nov-11-11 08:19 PM   #76 
        - Exactly right! I guess someone wants us to "believe" that a different  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 12:57 PM   #34 
  - I think the question to ask there  rrneck   Nov-11-11 12:26 PM   #26 
  - What do YOU "know" or have an awareness of that is not ...  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 01:57 PM   #43 
     - Unless I made it up.  rrneck   Nov-11-11 02:35 PM   #53 
        - I am learning from you.  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 05:21 PM   #72 
           - Awwwww.  rrneck   Nov-11-11 05:31 PM   #74 
           - Um, by the way..  rrneck   Nov-12-11 10:28 AM   #79 
  - Still waiting for proof "that isolated primative tribes display an awareness of the supernatural"  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 01:24 PM   #38 
  - Don't ever let it be said I didn't help out the "believers" folks...I know you want  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 01:47 PM   #40 
     - "We elevate fictional stories of gods and creation..."  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 01:57 PM   #42 
        - Much appreciate the acknowledgement... there's a lot of literature and research  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 02:01 PM   #45 
           - And yet 'bum couldn't come up with anything.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 02:23 PM   #48 
              - I don't think Father Humble knows about "the Google", or ...  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 02:29 PM   #51 
                 - Completely the opposite of the atheist veterans.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 02:41 PM   #55 
  - That all are born atheist does not mean it is genetic - it simply means that one is not born with  iris27   Nov-11-11 02:28 PM   #50 
     - And your point?  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 03:42 PM   #67 
     - Easy there,  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 04:08 PM   #69 
     - So religion, to you, is like "table manners"? Sorry, I'm not buying that!  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 05:16 PM   #71 
        - In the sense that both are learned behaviors, they are similar.  darkstar3   Nov-12-11 10:09 PM   #80 
        - No, I was just responding to humblebum's ridiculous assertion that for everyone to be born  iris27   Nov-13-11 02:25 AM   #81 
  - I started this thread, and I would like the moderators to lock it, responses are  MarkCharles   Nov-11-11 03:45 PM   #68 
  - Awww, don't do that.  beam me up scottie   Nov-11-11 04:14 PM   #70 
  - Don't do that  NMMNG   Nov-11-11 08:10 PM   #75 
  - I was rather enjoying our chat.  rrneck   Nov-11-11 08:25 PM   #77 
  - "we are NOT born with a religion" - do tell.  humblebum   Nov-11-11 09:01 PM   #78 
  - Thoughts, ideas and beliefs  EvilAL   Nov-13-11 05:56 AM   #82 
 

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