Reply #78: Oh dear, now you're off on the "accusation" for all the ills of our economy because

[MarkCharles]

NOT communists, not Nazi's but unconscionable capitalists who were the atheists that took us down that road, (even tho most capitalists are god-fearing Christians and others who go to services on the weekend).

Now, MY way of approaching this: is how the phenomenon of OBSTRUCTION of "knowledge" played a con game on the American economy.


You really are funny, sometimes, and I do laugh, when I see your accusatory posts here and there.

If those greedy capitalists had been paying attention to real data and real numbers, instead of bowing down to their god and greed fantasies, if they had actually studied the nature of a regulated fair marketplace, instead of finding con-games to make them richer in a less regulated marketplace, we wouldn't be in the mess we are now in!

It wasn't an absence of data that put us in this mess. It was the lack of logical thinking about the data that put us here. It was a refusal to even look at the data, and a wishful thinking fantasy attitude that prosperity was somehow more "godly" and more justified under ancient religious concepts of what it means to "prosper". Unregulated capitalism is not a result of atheism, it is a result of worship, a worship of richness, a worship of getting higher and more financially successful instead of helping all boats rise. It was a DISREGARD for all the economic evidence, it was, a conspiracy of belief in the god of unregulated capitalism and the self-serving loveless "Christian" virtue of being rich, being powerful, despite all the data of real risk and reward abounding if only people had been looking.

Now, you propose that atheism has a lot to do with this recession? When there's another branch to walk on, you go way out on the limb, don't you!

Atheists would look more at the data, than the pressure to be prosperous while ignoring the reality that churches so often preach. But be sure you use whatever limb I seemed to have given you to walk out on.

The concept of an open mind, and a willingness to accept and do commerce with any person in the market place is hardly new to atheists. It's a recipe for successful sales of whatever product or service one offers, and has been since the invention of money, several thousand years ago. The most respected folks in the market of commerce accept all people as they are, and perform quality services or provide quality goods to all customers, without regard for differences. That's an ethical position, and a recipe for success in commerce. That would contrast to how unethical bankers and others in the financial markets pulled con-games and ponzi schemes on unsuspecting customers during the Clinton/Bush years when regulation and oversight was removed from their field of endeavor. These events had nothing at all to do with rational scientific pursuit of "knowledge", nor anything to do with people who simply do not find any evidence for the existence of a god.

Try to grasp that history, rather than make baseless accusations. Thanks