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Bloodblister Bob Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:50 PM
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33. Everything about belief or non-belief is subjective...
What are we supposed to do, discount our own subjective experiences because we're not perfect? Nobody does that, nor should they.

The apparent abuse/co-dependency syndrome between Christians and their God is certainly nothing I had in mind before I became involved in discussions about Christianity with Christians. The similarity between the believer/God & victim/abuser relationship simply dawned on me one day during one such discussion. I can't help that, you know? My mind just sort of puts things together, and there's not a lot I can do about it.

If my experience amounts to an "insult" to Christians, well, I got it from Christians, so there you go.

I don't see why some here are so combative about this. I thought perhaps this was a venue for freethinkers, but instead I sense a knife at my throat.

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  -God an Abuser? Believers Co-dependent? Bloodblister Bob  Oct-18-05 09:08 AM   #0 
  - No, organized religion's the abuser.  ClassWarrior   Oct-18-05 09:12 AM   #1 
  - I have been campaigning against defining the beliefs of others,  cosmik debris   Oct-18-05 09:13 AM   #2 
  - I know what Christians believe, because I have asked them.  Bloodblister Bob   Oct-18-05 09:20 AM   #5 
  - You are making gross generalizations  cosmik debris   Oct-18-05 09:28 AM   #6 
  - I think your analogy is interesting...  Lerkfish   Oct-18-05 09:45 AM   #12 
  - In actuality,  GrpCaptMandrake   Oct-18-05 09:29 AM   #8 
  - And when I compare religion to superstition  cosmik debris   Oct-18-05 09:34 AM   #10 
     - And that's not ypur problem  GrpCaptMandrake   Oct-18-05 09:41 AM   #11 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-18-05 09:47 AM   #13 
        - your argument for civility is appreciated, by me at least.  Lerkfish   Oct-18-05 09:50 AM   #16 
        - Didn't check the profile  GrpCaptMandrake   Oct-18-05 09:58 AM   #17 
        - however, if one wishes to force a drink down another's throat...  Lerkfish   Oct-18-05 09:49 AM   #15 
           - I disagree  sui generis   Oct-18-05 10:44 AM   #18 
           - no, you're actually agreeing with me...  Lerkfish   Oct-18-05 11:01 AM   #20 
              - thanks lerkfish  sui generis   Oct-18-05 11:20 AM   #21 
              - No "Straw Man" Here  Bloodblister Bob   Oct-18-05 05:31 PM   #27 
                 - I notice you do not respond to my other posts, which are more  Lerkfish   Oct-18-05 05:50 PM   #29 
                    - I believe his intention is best expressed by his actions  cosmik debris   Oct-18-05 07:05 PM   #31 
                    - Everything about belief or non-belief is subjective...  Bloodblister Bob   Oct-18-05 07:50 PM   #33 
                    - I responded where I thought it most appropriate to do so. n/t  Bloodblister Bob   Oct-18-05 07:19 PM   #32 
           - So therefore no one should opine  GrpCaptMandrake   Oct-18-05 11:30 AM   #22 
              - you misunderstand my point...noone should set up straw men  Lerkfish   Oct-18-05 12:01 PM   #23 
  - Amen  papau   Oct-18-05 09:47 AM   #14 
     - Oh, so you agree with Cosmik ?  beam me up scottie   Oct-18-05 10:47 AM   #19 
  - master/slave  nashville_brook   Oct-18-05 09:13 AM   #3 
  - Not all Christians I know are like that, but it seems that people  atommom   Oct-18-05 09:14 AM   #4 
  - mostly "literalist" and "fundamentalist" views  sui generis   Oct-18-05 09:28 AM   #7 
  - good and bad things happen to good and bad people...its the vagaries  Lerkfish   Oct-18-05 09:34 AM   #9 
  - Doesn't really do much to address the conundrum, does it?  trotsky   Oct-18-05 02:17 PM   #24 
  - well, I'm not saying bad things are good.  Lerkfish   Oct-18-05 05:47 PM   #28 
     - No, of course I don't think god is cruel.  trotsky   Oct-18-05 06:47 PM   #30 
  - very nice, Lerkfish  kwassa   Oct-18-05 02:28 PM   #25 
  - Depends on how involved and in control you think God is.  freestyle   Oct-18-05 02:50 PM   #26 
  - I agree with freestyle.  Brentos   Oct-19-05 11:47 AM   #34 
  - Can you be co-dependent with an imaginary friend?  NAO   Oct-20-05 05:00 AM   #35 
     - Self-inflicted co-dependence? nt  SlackJawedYokel   Oct-20-05 09:30 AM   #36 

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