| 106. By golly, I think you nailed it! |
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 It's too bad and such a waste, considering that you are talking to a brick wall.
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| -Atheist Activist Participating In Local Parade Is Attacked By A Muslim |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 01:03 PM |
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But didn't Newt say they were working together to undermine America? |
Scuba |
Oct-12-11 01:05 PM |
#1 |
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people insecure in their own superstitions and myths hate freedoms others have lol nt |
msongs |
Oct-12-11 01:05 PM |
#2 |
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great way to define the GOP, for that matter ... |
Ship of Fools |
Oct-12-11 01:08 PM |
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I question the wisdom of dressing up as a zombie Muhammad, |
MineralMan |
Oct-12-11 01:11 PM |
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I agree with most of your sentiment. But I also think that if you are going to believe something |
cui bono |
Oct-12-11 01:29 PM |
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Well, I have no interest in converting religious believers to |
MineralMan |
Oct-12-11 01:41 PM |
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I think you're right. Look at how everyone is reacting more negatively to the mockery |
cui bono |
Oct-12-11 01:44 PM |
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The violence is criminal, and deserves to be punished |
MineralMan |
Oct-12-11 01:47 PM |
#15 |
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Why? If they are offended or act violently, that's their problem, not mine. n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Oct-12-11 08:40 PM |
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I would not have participated either. |
ChadwickHenryWard |
Oct-12-11 04:50 PM |
#26 |
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Forced to agree. |
Deep13 |
Oct-12-11 05:12 PM |
#30 |
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Considering that there are STILL people in this country that would use violence to oppress |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 05:40 PM |
#33 |
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Point taken. |
Deep13 |
Oct-12-11 06:00 PM |
#38 |
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A guy has to pick his battles and choose his battlegrounds. |
MineralMan |
Oct-12-11 06:25 PM |
#46 |
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And this was his battleground. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 06:32 PM |
#47 |
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Nobody ever "has it coming to him." |
MineralMan |
Oct-12-11 07:01 PM |
#52 |
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I think I get your point. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 07:06 PM |
#54 |
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Exactly. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:16 PM |
#87 |
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The you are supporting the Hecklers Veto |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-12-11 08:58 PM |
#82 |
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They shouldn't be treated any differently. |
MineralMan |
Oct-13-11 08:01 AM |
#112 |
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It is a matter of degree |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-14-11 12:01 AM |
#133 |
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What a complete ass-hat! Defending your right not to believe (or trying to keep religion out of... |
Rabblevox |
Oct-12-11 01:15 PM |
#5 |
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It's either all open or it's not. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-12-11 01:20 PM |
#6 |
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Sorry for your simplistic world-view, but you are plain wrong... |
Rabblevox |
Oct-12-11 01:29 PM |
#8 |
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You sure are sitting pretty high on your horse aren't you. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-12-11 01:49 PM |
#16 |
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Are you trying, poorly, to prove Poe's Law? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:18 PM |
#90 |
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Hmmm, if only there was someway to know for sure.... |
Deep13 |
Oct-12-11 06:03 PM |
#39 |
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He is "damn lucky he got away as easily as he did"? What. The. Fuck. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 01:26 PM |
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Oct-12-11 01:34 PM |
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HER/HIS "knee-jerk response"? YOU are the one who is condoning murder over a frivolous act. |
cui bono |
Oct-12-11 01:41 PM |
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Hey, bub, YOU are the one that fucking just said it would be ok to FUCKING KILL SOMEONE!! |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 03:03 PM |
#24 |
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Yes, nothing justifies the man's violent reaction, however with the right to free speech |
cui bono |
Oct-12-11 01:35 PM |
#10 |
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You, I, nor anyone else is under any obligation to respect someone's "beliefs". Not ever. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 04:01 PM |
#25 |
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I actually do agree with that and yet I still feel you should choose to act responsibly. |
cui bono |
Oct-12-11 05:56 PM |
#36 |
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What do you mean "responsibly?" That implies that the person KNEW he was going to be attacked |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 06:09 PM |
#41 |
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I don't think it implies that. And I don't think your analogy works. |
cui bono |
Oct-12-11 07:41 PM |
#62 |
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So you consider it justifiable homicide to kill someone who mocks your religion??? |
cui bono |
Oct-12-11 01:37 PM |
#11 |
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That's absolutely disgusting. |
ChadwickHenryWard |
Oct-12-11 05:00 PM |
#27 |
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The violence should offend you more than the mockery. |
Deep13 |
Oct-12-11 05:57 PM |
#37 |
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Would your response be the same if someone put on |
Leontius |
Oct-12-11 06:58 PM |
#50 |
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Yes, why the fuck is this such a hard concept to understand? |
Humanist_Activist |
Oct-12-11 07:14 PM |
#56 |
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Here on planet earth actions have consequences, might not |
Leontius |
Oct-12-11 07:24 PM |
#58 |
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Holy shit, dude. Did you really just say that? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 07:34 PM |
#60 |
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Yes speech has a price and I've paid it before, if you've been |
Leontius |
Oct-12-11 08:45 PM |
#77 |
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And if you actually went through that, you'd feel a lot more strongly |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:07 PM |
#84 |
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Please show the post where I recommend that people stay |
Leontius |
Oct-13-11 02:36 PM |
#120 |
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So you weren't warning people away from exercising their free speech rights for fear of violence, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-13-11 07:15 PM |
#125 |
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Oct-14-11 01:11 PM |
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So please explain what you meant, then, and clear this all up. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-14-11 01:58 PM |
#137 |
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You have paid two things: jack and shit, and jack just left town. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 10:22 PM |
#103 |
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Yes, I would react to the violence in exactly the same way. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 07:18 PM |
#57 |
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Violence is not the response I would choose and not the one |
Leontius |
Oct-12-11 07:38 PM |
#61 |
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Thats interesting, because I WILL wring my hands and moan of Phelps' crew gets attacked. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 07:42 PM |
#63 |
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Oct-12-11 08:09 PM |
#69 |
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Yes, and it is a false comparison. |
Deep13 |
Oct-12-11 07:28 PM |
#59 |
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You raise some valid points and some not so valid points |
Leontius |
Oct-12-11 08:06 PM |
#68 |
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We are touching opposite sides of the same point. |
Deep13 |
Oct-13-11 08:06 PM |
#129 |
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How little you view human life, what a contemptable person you are... |
Humanist_Activist |
Oct-12-11 07:13 PM |
#55 |
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I guess I'll never see YOU at Pride. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:24 PM |
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Oct-12-11 01:52 PM |
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Oct-12-11 01:58 PM |
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Did you happen to notice the little 'etc.', Bubba? Where did I ever refer to |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 02:10 PM |
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etc means more of the same. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-12-11 02:19 PM |
#21 |
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So, just how is it that mentioning the word "atheists", which they |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 02:32 PM |
#23 |
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Yes. If you say dogs are black you ARE implying that all dogs are black. |
cui bono |
Oct-12-11 05:54 PM |
#35 |
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You have trouble with basic concepts sometimes. |
laconicsax |
Oct-12-11 06:06 PM |
#40 |
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Not understanding the basic stuff is where the problem lies. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 06:14 PM |
#44 |
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Yes, bum, if you say "dogs are black" then you imply that all dogs are black. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 06:12 PM |
#42 |
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Let me be the fourth to point out your completely incorrect statement. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-12-11 08:47 PM |
#78 |
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The Millersville parade is on the 29th; the Mechanicsburg parade was last night |
struggle4progress |
Oct-12-11 02:05 PM |
#19 |
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I just did a quick check of local news sources. |
ChadwickHenryWard |
Oct-12-11 05:01 PM |
#28 |
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Here is a video of the incident. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 06:19 PM |
#45 |
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What a bunch of bigoted idiots. Hard to feel sorry for them. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 06:51 PM |
#48 |
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Take your childish bullshit and blow away, will ya? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 06:52 PM |
#49 |
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As long as you're there, I'm there. Hopefully, more and more people |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 06:59 PM |
#51 |
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The only "militant" ones here are the guys that attacked people in a fucking parade. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 07:01 PM |
#53 |
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Oh, get it alright. And yes, they are militant. The New Atheist Movement |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 08:04 PM |
#66 |
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Its obvious you don't value human freedom or human life... |
Humanist_Activist |
Oct-12-11 08:09 PM |
#70 |
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Where you arrive at that conclusion I have no idea, and yes I |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 08:23 PM |
#71 |
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... |
NMMNG |
Oct-12-11 08:28 PM |
#72 |
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No doubt I'd feel the same way if I witnessed someone being |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 08:34 PM |
#73 |
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People are, figuratively, every day |
NMMNG |
Oct-12-11 08:52 PM |
#79 |
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By golly, I think you nailed it! |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 10:33 PM |
#106 |
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Is this just an online thing or do you have actual conversations like this with real people? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 10:30 PM |
#105 |
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Dude, are you for real? |
ChadwickHenryWard |
Oct-12-11 08:39 PM |
#74 |
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Sadly he is |
NMMNG |
Oct-12-11 08:55 PM |
#81 |
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I think it could easily be a Poe. |
ChadwickHenryWard |
Oct-12-11 09:18 PM |
#89 |
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Not a Poe. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-12-11 09:26 PM |
#94 |
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That sure would take a lot of dedication. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 10:45 PM |
#107 |
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Actually, I might respect that level of dedication. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-13-11 09:42 AM |
#114 |
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As a matter of fact, I am. The Muslim person was certainly wrong |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 09:08 PM |
#85 |
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And there it is: YOUR POV. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:14 PM |
#86 |
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Yes, I am the only critic of radical atheism. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 09:17 PM |
#88 |
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That makes sense since it's a bogeyman that only exists in your head. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:19 PM |
#91 |
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Keep telling yourself that. I for one know how you like to ignore |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 09:22 PM |
#92 |
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Says the man who ignores the vastness of history |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:27 PM |
#95 |
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Yes, all of those Phd's and eyewitness accounts do tend to get |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 09:44 PM |
#97 |
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Fallacious, like the majority of your posts. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:46 PM |
#98 |
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Prove it. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 09:47 PM |
#99 |
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No need. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:50 PM |
#100 |
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That's what I thought. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-12-11 09:51 PM |
#101 |
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I doubt that. ;) |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:53 PM |
#102 |
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He might get awarded a dollar or two and his attorney fees on a personal trespass tort, I guess. |
struggle4progress |
Oct-12-11 07:53 PM |
#65 |
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I guess that's just life as a minority, huh? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 10:23 PM |
#104 |
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I'd guess that's just life when there's a technical battery but the victim is uninjured: |
struggle4progress |
Oct-12-11 11:06 PM |
#108 |
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Oh, he can keep walking! Of course that means this was nothing to worry about. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 11:11 PM |
#109 |
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"technical" battery, huh? Is that like "technical" rape, or "technical" child molesting, or... |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 11:19 PM |
#110 |
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If I did that to someone in a mall, |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-13-11 09:43 AM |
#115 |
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Nah. Citation at best, and that's unlikely for this. Here's why: |
struggle4progress |
Oct-13-11 12:04 PM |
#117 |
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So what happens when the victim presses charges for assault? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-13-11 07:18 PM |
#126 |
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Feel free to look for the incident on one of the local police blotter sites: |
struggle4progress |
Oct-13-11 10:04 PM |
#131 |
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I guess I'll have to, because you obviously couldn't give two shits, and are surprised others do. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-13-11 10:12 PM |
#132 |
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I searched for police report, didn't find, suspect stolen twinkie file as discussed upthread |
struggle4progress |
Oct-14-11 02:07 PM |
#139 |
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Stay classy. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-11 07:26 PM |
#149 |
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You could get a copy of the police log for the night & tell us what it says, if you think I'm wrong. |
struggle4progress |
Oct-14-11 07:59 PM |
#152 |
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thanks for the link and the comments say it all. n/t |
deacon_sephiroth |
Oct-13-11 02:37 AM |
#111 |
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What is a Parading Atheist? |
rug |
Oct-12-11 02:32 PM |
#22 |
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Instead of throwing candy to the children... |
Deep13 |
Oct-12-11 05:14 PM |
#31 |
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Lol, that's a pretty funny image. |
rug |
Oct-12-11 06:13 PM |
#43 |
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Yes, the violence was wrong... |
Deep13 |
Oct-12-11 05:08 PM |
#29 |
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It doesn't further any goal, other than to show that there are those who would use violence as a |
cleanhippie |
Oct-12-11 05:37 PM |
#32 |
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Maybe. Hard to know for sure. |
Deep13 |
Oct-12-11 05:54 PM |
#34 |
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Several people are defending the attacker |
NMMNG |
Oct-12-11 07:47 PM |
#64 |
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I guess he was asking for it |
pokerfan |
Oct-12-11 08:05 PM |
#67 |
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Everyone supporting the attacker on this thread fucking sickens me. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-12-11 08:42 PM |
#76 |
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It just goes to show |
NMMNG |
Oct-12-11 08:53 PM |
#80 |
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Most of them are supporting the Hecklers Veto which I think is even worse |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-12-11 09:05 PM |
#83 |
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Now go to GD |
darkstar3 |
Oct-12-11 09:30 PM |
#96 |
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"There is no God, but God." |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-13-11 09:36 AM |
#113 |
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A zombie Muhammad costume? |
philly_bob |
Oct-13-11 10:33 AM |
#116 |
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Seeing the video reminds me of the overt anti-religious marches |
humblebum |
Oct-13-11 12:48 PM |
#118 |
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.......................... |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-13-11 01:08 PM |
#119 |
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The guy in the costume should be protected by law, don't you |
Leontius |
Oct-13-11 02:49 PM |
#121 |
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Yes I do. That aside, he needs to expect that any number of consequences |
humblebum |
Oct-13-11 03:18 PM |
#122 |
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So if you punch me in the face because I blasphemed against your god, it's partly my fault. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-13-11 07:20 PM |
#128 |
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I wonder if he thinks its partly the childs fault for being molested by their priest. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-13-11 08:31 PM |
#130 |
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A priest, a pedophile and a rapist walk into a bar... |
onager |
Oct-14-11 02:50 PM |
#140 |
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The guy in the costume is protected by law. He has every right to be free of trespass |
struggle4progress |
Oct-14-11 12:42 AM |
#134 |
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... |
NMMNG |
Oct-13-11 05:45 PM |
#123 |
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Blah, blah, blah....Do you EVER have anything relevant to say? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-13-11 07:08 PM |
#124 |
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Commies! |
NMMNG |
Oct-13-11 07:20 PM |
#127 |
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Actual photo! Militant Russian atheists marching! |
onager |
Oct-14-11 03:11 PM |
#142 |
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There's some fantastic art there. K&R |
laconicsax |
Oct-14-11 03:22 PM |
#143 |
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So much saddness... War should be outlawed.... Breadlines and |
midnight |
Oct-14-11 04:07 PM |
#145 |
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I like this one. |
rug |
Oct-14-11 04:30 PM |
#147 |
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Would be interesting to see what happened to them in the years after the war |
humblebum |
Oct-14-11 04:35 PM |
#148 |
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Oh, yes, very interesting. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 02:22 AM |
#161 |
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Stalin temporarily let up on religious and other repression during World War II |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-15-11 12:44 AM |
#154 |
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The PACP donned costumes depicting zombie renditions of the Pope and the prophet Muhammad and joined |
Thats my opinion |
Oct-14-11 01:42 PM |
#136 |
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Oct-14-11 02:04 PM |
#138 |
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Do you not understand the difference |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-11 03:03 PM |
#141 |
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What "thoughtful" insight you've brought to this thread. |
laconicsax |
Oct-14-11 04:02 PM |
#144 |
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Well said. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-11 07:29 PM |
#150 |
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That's rich, considering the subject of the thread. |
humblebum |
Oct-14-11 07:50 PM |
#151 |
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I must have missed the part where it becomes appropriate to assault someone. |
laconicsax |
Oct-14-11 09:12 PM |
#153 |
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"his bigoted statements" and "perceived insult" - in light of the |
humblebum |
Oct-15-11 01:19 AM |
#155 |
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As are your posts. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-15-11 01:25 AM |
#156 |
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So now you condone physical attacks, as well as bigoted speech. Just never ends. |
humblebum |
Oct-15-11 01:29 AM |
#157 |
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It's the theists here who are condoning physical attacks against atheists |
NMMNG |
Oct-15-11 01:36 AM |
#158 |
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Not at all. It's just that when a body walks around with a "Kick Me" |
humblebum |
Oct-15-11 01:49 AM |
#159 |
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Of course you'd blame the victim. |
laconicsax |
Oct-15-11 02:16 AM |
#160 |
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You can't possibly have posted this without a sense of irony. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-15-11 02:22 AM |
#162 |
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I'm tellling you, its no poe. Its real. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 02:30 AM |
#164 |
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Basically your position is it's OK to physically attack someone |
NMMNG |
Oct-15-11 02:37 AM |
#165 |
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And basically, I never even suggested such a thing. But I am equally repulsed by |
humblebum |
Oct-15-11 10:51 AM |
#169 |
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one-trick pony. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 11:01 AM |
#170 |
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You've suggested it repeatedly on this thread alone |
NMMNG |
Oct-15-11 12:12 PM |
#176 |
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Don't forget hypocrite, too! |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 12:36 PM |
#179 |
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That's obvious to anybody with a modicum of intelligence |
NMMNG |
Oct-15-11 01:10 PM |
#180 |
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I think we knew all along that was lacking. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-16-11 10:42 AM |
#185 |
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Attacker or no attacker, the parading atheists are clearly a bigoted group. |
humblebum |
Oct-16-11 12:01 PM |
#186 |
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The Parading Atheists need to team up with these guys to |
humblebum |
Oct-16-11 02:14 PM |
#187 |
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Funny how allies can sometimes be found in the most unlikeliest of places. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-16-11 02:52 PM |
#189 |
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Just another straw man. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-16-11 03:36 PM |
#190 |
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Thank you for clearly demonstrating your ignorance on the subject...again. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-17-11 09:27 AM |
#192 |
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Thank you for clearly demonstarting the point. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-16-11 02:50 PM |
#188 |
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You seem to only be convincing yourself with these twists, you know. No one buys it. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 02:29 AM |
#163 |
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kinda like someone taking a swing at a Westboro Baptist funeral protester. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-15-11 02:45 AM |
#166 |
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Huh? Do you even know what you are talking about? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 09:46 AM |
#167 |
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In this case the two groups are quite similar: |
humblebum |
Oct-15-11 10:47 AM |
#168 |
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And you would have one of those groups LOSE that constitutional protection. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 11:02 AM |
#171 |
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And again, you resort to dishonesty. Both use inciteful hate speech and |
humblebum |
Oct-15-11 11:18 AM |
#172 |
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Really? You WANT these non-believers to be able to continue to purposefully insult beliefs? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 11:44 AM |
#173 |
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Yep. But, they have no right to demand nor expect to be respected |
humblebum |
Oct-15-11 11:53 AM |
#174 |
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If that is what you think the "idea" is, then no wonder you post the things you do. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 12:07 PM |
#175 |
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Such has been stated here on occasion and verbal abuse can also |
humblebum |
Oct-15-11 12:33 PM |
#177 |
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You can label me as a proponent of free speech and expression. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 12:35 PM |
#178 |
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I'll remember that the next time a student prays at a graduation ceremony. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-15-11 02:44 PM |
#181 |
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False parallel. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-15-11 02:59 PM |
#182 |
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He doesn't refuse. |
laconicsax |
Oct-15-11 03:03 PM |
#183 |
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You do that. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-15-11 03:32 PM |
#184 |
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complain, complain, compli]ain, thats all you do. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-14-11 04:28 PM |
#146 |
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I think it's worth reviewing what we know so far and who is pushing this story. |
struggle4progress |
Oct-16-11 05:46 PM |
#191 |
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While it would seem that this incident is a bit overblown in severety... |
cleanhippie |
Oct-17-11 09:35 AM |
#193 |
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What the parading atheists are doing is no different than |
humblebum |
Oct-17-11 12:17 PM |
#194 |
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Oct-17-11 12:30 PM |
#195 |
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I see an intentional religious slur equal to any racial slur and in |
humblebum |
Oct-17-11 01:41 PM |
#197 |
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Your ignorance and repetition are boring. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-17-11 02:49 PM |
#198 |
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As is yours. There is a whole lot of difference between |
humblebum |
Oct-17-11 03:01 PM |
#199 |
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Only to you. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-17-11 04:21 PM |
#200 |
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Unsurprisingly, this long long thread revolves mainly around claims made without evidence, and |
struggle4progress |
Oct-17-11 01:10 PM |
#196 |
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