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75. Why? If they are offended or act violently, that's their problem, not mine. n/t
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  -Atheist Activist Participating In Local Parade Is Attacked By A Muslim cleanhippie  Oct-12-11 01:03 PM   #0 
  - But didn't Newt say they were working together to undermine America?  Scuba   Oct-12-11 01:05 PM   #1 
  - people insecure in their own superstitions and myths hate freedoms others have lol nt  msongs   Oct-12-11 01:05 PM   #2 
  - great way to define the GOP, for that matter ...  Ship of Fools   Oct-12-11 01:08 PM   #3 
  - I question the wisdom of dressing up as a zombie Muhammad,  MineralMan   Oct-12-11 01:11 PM   #4 
  - I agree with most of your sentiment. But I also think that if you are going to believe something  cui bono   Oct-12-11 01:29 PM   # 
  - Well, I have no interest in converting religious believers to  MineralMan   Oct-12-11 01:41 PM   #12 
     - I think you're right. Look at how everyone is reacting more negatively to the mockery  cui bono   Oct-12-11 01:44 PM   #14 
        - The violence is criminal, and deserves to be punished  MineralMan   Oct-12-11 01:47 PM   #15 
           - Why? If they are offended or act violently, that's their problem, not mine. n/t  Humanist_Activist   Oct-12-11 08:40 PM   #75 
  - I would not have participated either.  ChadwickHenryWard   Oct-12-11 04:50 PM   #26 
  - Forced to agree.  Deep13   Oct-12-11 05:12 PM   #30 
  - Considering that there are STILL people in this country that would use violence to oppress  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 05:40 PM   #33 
  - Point taken.  Deep13   Oct-12-11 06:00 PM   #38 
  - A guy has to pick his battles and choose his battlegrounds.  MineralMan   Oct-12-11 06:25 PM   #46 
     - And this was his battleground.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 06:32 PM   #47 
        - Nobody ever "has it coming to him."  MineralMan   Oct-12-11 07:01 PM   #52 
           - I think I get your point.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 07:06 PM   #54 
              - Exactly.  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:16 PM   #87 
  - The you are supporting the Hecklers Veto  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-12-11 08:58 PM   #82 
     - They shouldn't be treated any differently.  MineralMan   Oct-13-11 08:01 AM   #112 
        - It is a matter of degree  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-14-11 12:01 AM   #133 
  - What a complete ass-hat! Defending your right not to believe (or trying to keep religion out of...  Rabblevox   Oct-12-11 01:15 PM   #5 
  - It's either all open or it's not.  Goblinmonger   Oct-12-11 01:20 PM   #6 
  - Sorry for your simplistic world-view, but you are plain wrong...  Rabblevox   Oct-12-11 01:29 PM   #8 
  - You sure are sitting pretty high on your horse aren't you.  Goblinmonger   Oct-12-11 01:49 PM   #16 
  - Are you trying, poorly, to prove Poe's Law?  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:18 PM   #90 
  - Hmmm, if only there was someway to know for sure....  Deep13   Oct-12-11 06:03 PM   #39 
  - He is "damn lucky he got away as easily as he did"? What. The. Fuck.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 01:26 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-12-11 01:34 PM   #9 
  - HER/HIS "knee-jerk response"? YOU are the one who is condoning murder over a frivolous act.  cui bono   Oct-12-11 01:41 PM   #13 
  - Hey, bub, YOU are the one that fucking just said it would be ok to FUCKING KILL SOMEONE!!  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 03:03 PM   #24 
  - Yes, nothing justifies the man's violent reaction, however with the right to free speech  cui bono   Oct-12-11 01:35 PM   #10 
     - You, I, nor anyone else is under any obligation to respect someone's "beliefs". Not ever.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 04:01 PM   #25 
        - I actually do agree with that and yet I still feel you should choose to act responsibly.  cui bono   Oct-12-11 05:56 PM   #36 
           - What do you mean "responsibly?" That implies that the person KNEW he was going to be attacked  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 06:09 PM   #41 
              - I don't think it implies that. And I don't think your analogy works.  cui bono   Oct-12-11 07:41 PM   #62 
  - So you consider it justifiable homicide to kill someone who mocks your religion???  cui bono   Oct-12-11 01:37 PM   #11 
  - That's absolutely disgusting.  ChadwickHenryWard   Oct-12-11 05:00 PM   #27 
  - The violence should offend you more than the mockery.  Deep13   Oct-12-11 05:57 PM   #37 
  - Would your response be the same if someone put on  Leontius   Oct-12-11 06:58 PM   #50 
     - Yes, why the fuck is this such a hard concept to understand?  Humanist_Activist   Oct-12-11 07:14 PM   #56 
     - Here on planet earth actions have consequences, might not  Leontius   Oct-12-11 07:24 PM   #58 
        - Holy shit, dude. Did you really just say that?  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 07:34 PM   #60 
           - Yes speech has a price and I've paid it before, if you've been  Leontius   Oct-12-11 08:45 PM   #77 
              - And if you actually went through that, you'd feel a lot more strongly  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:07 PM   #84 
              - Please show the post where I recommend that people stay  Leontius   Oct-13-11 02:36 PM   #120 
                 - So you weren't warning people away from exercising their free speech rights for fear of violence,  darkstar3   Oct-13-11 07:15 PM   #125 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-14-11 01:11 PM   #135 
                       - So please explain what you meant, then, and clear this all up.  cleanhippie   Oct-14-11 01:58 PM   #137 
              - You have paid two things: jack and shit, and jack just left town.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 10:22 PM   #103 
     - Yes, I would react to the violence in exactly the same way.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 07:18 PM   #57 
     - Violence is not the response I would choose and not the one  Leontius   Oct-12-11 07:38 PM   #61 
        - Thats interesting, because I WILL wring my hands and moan of Phelps' crew gets attacked.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 07:42 PM   #63 
           - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-12-11 08:09 PM   #69 
     - Yes, and it is a false comparison.  Deep13   Oct-12-11 07:28 PM   #59 
        - You raise some valid points and some not so valid points  Leontius   Oct-12-11 08:06 PM   #68 
           - We are touching opposite sides of the same point.  Deep13   Oct-13-11 08:06 PM   #129 
  - How little you view human life, what a contemptable person you are...  Humanist_Activist   Oct-12-11 07:13 PM   #55 
  - I guess I'll never see YOU at Pride.  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:24 PM   #93 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-12-11 01:52 PM   #17 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-12-11 01:58 PM   #18 
     - Did you happen to notice the little 'etc.', Bubba? Where did I ever refer to  humblebum   Oct-12-11 02:10 PM   #20 
        - etc means more of the same.  Goblinmonger   Oct-12-11 02:19 PM   #21 
           - So, just how is it that mentioning the word "atheists", which they  humblebum   Oct-12-11 02:32 PM   #23 
              - Yes. If you say dogs are black you ARE implying that all dogs are black.  cui bono   Oct-12-11 05:54 PM   #35 
              - You have trouble with basic concepts sometimes.  laconicsax   Oct-12-11 06:06 PM   #40 
              - Not understanding the basic stuff is where the problem lies.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 06:14 PM   #44 
              - Yes, bum, if you say "dogs are black" then you imply that all dogs are black.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 06:12 PM   #42 
              - Let me be the fourth to point out your completely incorrect statement.  Goblinmonger   Oct-12-11 08:47 PM   #78 
  - The Millersville parade is on the 29th; the Mechanicsburg parade was last night  struggle4progress   Oct-12-11 02:05 PM   #19 
  - I just did a quick check of local news sources.  ChadwickHenryWard   Oct-12-11 05:01 PM   #28 
  - Here is a video of the incident.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 06:19 PM   #45 
     - What a bunch of bigoted idiots. Hard to feel sorry for them. nt  humblebum   Oct-12-11 06:51 PM   #48 
     - Take your childish bullshit and blow away, will ya?  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 06:52 PM   #49 
        - As long as you're there, I'm there. Hopefully, more and more people  humblebum   Oct-12-11 06:59 PM   #51 
           - The only "militant" ones here are the guys that attacked people in a fucking parade.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 07:01 PM   #53 
           - Oh, get it alright. And yes, they are militant. The New Atheist Movement  humblebum   Oct-12-11 08:04 PM   #66 
              - Its obvious you don't value human freedom or human life...  Humanist_Activist   Oct-12-11 08:09 PM   #70 
                 - Where you arrive at that conclusion I have no idea, and yes I  humblebum   Oct-12-11 08:23 PM   #71 
                    - ...  NMMNG   Oct-12-11 08:28 PM   #72 
                    - No doubt I'd feel the same way if I witnessed someone being  humblebum   Oct-12-11 08:34 PM   #73 
                       - People are, figuratively, every day  NMMNG   Oct-12-11 08:52 PM   #79 
                          - By golly, I think you nailed it!  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 10:33 PM   #106 
                    - Is this just an online thing or do you have actual conversations like this with real people?  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 10:30 PM   #105 
           - Dude, are you for real?  ChadwickHenryWard   Oct-12-11 08:39 PM   #74 
              - Sadly he is  NMMNG   Oct-12-11 08:55 PM   #81 
              - I think it could easily be a Poe.  ChadwickHenryWard   Oct-12-11 09:18 PM   #89 
                 - Not a Poe.  Goblinmonger   Oct-12-11 09:26 PM   #94 
                    - That sure would take a lot of dedication.  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 10:45 PM   #107 
                       - Actually, I might respect that level of dedication.  Goblinmonger   Oct-13-11 09:42 AM   #114 
              - As a matter of fact, I am. The Muslim person was certainly wrong  humblebum   Oct-12-11 09:08 PM   #85 
                 - And there it is: YOUR POV.  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:14 PM   #86 
                    - Yes, I am the only critic of radical atheism. nt  humblebum   Oct-12-11 09:17 PM   #88 
                       - That makes sense since it's a bogeyman that only exists in your head.  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:19 PM   #91 
                          - Keep telling yourself that. I for one know how you like to ignore  humblebum   Oct-12-11 09:22 PM   #92 
                             - Says the man who ignores the vastness of history  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:27 PM   #95 
                                - Yes, all of those Phd's and eyewitness accounts do tend to get  humblebum   Oct-12-11 09:44 PM   #97 
                                   - Fallacious, like the majority of your posts.  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:46 PM   #98 
                                      - Prove it. nt  humblebum   Oct-12-11 09:47 PM   #99 
                                         - No need.  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:50 PM   #100 
                                            - That's what I thought. nt  humblebum   Oct-12-11 09:51 PM   #101 
                                               - I doubt that. ;)  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:53 PM   #102 
     - He might get awarded a dollar or two and his attorney fees on a personal trespass tort, I guess.  struggle4progress   Oct-12-11 07:53 PM   #65 
     - I guess that's just life as a minority, huh?  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 10:23 PM   #104 
        - I'd guess that's just life when there's a technical battery but the victim is uninjured:  struggle4progress   Oct-12-11 11:06 PM   #108 
           - Oh, he can keep walking! Of course that means this was nothing to worry about.  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 11:11 PM   #109 
           - "technical" battery, huh? Is that like "technical" rape, or "technical" child molesting, or...  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 11:19 PM   #110 
           - If I did that to someone in a mall,  Goblinmonger   Oct-13-11 09:43 AM   #115 
              - Nah. Citation at best, and that's unlikely for this. Here's why:  struggle4progress   Oct-13-11 12:04 PM   #117 
                 - So what happens when the victim presses charges for assault?  darkstar3   Oct-13-11 07:18 PM   #126 
                    - Feel free to look for the incident on one of the local police blotter sites:  struggle4progress   Oct-13-11 10:04 PM   #131 
                       - I guess I'll have to, because you obviously couldn't give two shits, and are surprised others do.  darkstar3   Oct-13-11 10:12 PM   #132 
                          - I searched for police report, didn't find, suspect stolen twinkie file as discussed upthread  struggle4progress   Oct-14-11 02:07 PM   #139 
                             - Stay classy.  darkstar3   Oct-14-11 07:26 PM   #149 
                                - You could get a copy of the police log for the night & tell us what it says, if you think I'm wrong.  struggle4progress   Oct-14-11 07:59 PM   #152 
     - thanks for the link and the comments say it all. n/t  deacon_sephiroth   Oct-13-11 02:37 AM   #111 
  - What is a Parading Atheist?  rug   Oct-12-11 02:32 PM   #22 
  - Instead of throwing candy to the children...  Deep13   Oct-12-11 05:14 PM   #31 
     - Lol, that's a pretty funny image.  rug   Oct-12-11 06:13 PM   #43 
  - Yes, the violence was wrong...  Deep13   Oct-12-11 05:08 PM   #29 
  - It doesn't further any goal, other than to show that there are those who would use violence as a  cleanhippie   Oct-12-11 05:37 PM   #32 
     - Maybe. Hard to know for sure.  Deep13   Oct-12-11 05:54 PM   #34 
  - Several people are defending the attacker  NMMNG   Oct-12-11 07:47 PM   #64 
  - I guess he was asking for it  pokerfan   Oct-12-11 08:05 PM   #67 
  - Everyone supporting the attacker on this thread fucking sickens me.  Goblinmonger   Oct-12-11 08:42 PM   #76 
  - It just goes to show  NMMNG   Oct-12-11 08:53 PM   #80 
  - Most of them are supporting the Hecklers Veto which I think is even worse  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-12-11 09:05 PM   #83 
  - Now go to GD  darkstar3   Oct-12-11 09:30 PM   #96 
  - "There is no God, but God."  ZombieHorde   Oct-13-11 09:36 AM   #113 
  - A zombie Muhammad costume?  philly_bob   Oct-13-11 10:33 AM   #116 
  - Seeing the video reminds me of the overt anti-religious marches  humblebum   Oct-13-11 12:48 PM   #118 
  - ..........................  Goblinmonger   Oct-13-11 01:08 PM   #119 
  - The guy in the costume should be protected by law, don't you  Leontius   Oct-13-11 02:49 PM   #121 
  - Yes I do. That aside, he needs to expect that any number of consequences  humblebum   Oct-13-11 03:18 PM   #122 
  - So if you punch me in the face because I blasphemed against your god, it's partly my fault.  darkstar3   Oct-13-11 07:20 PM   #128 
     - I wonder if he thinks its partly the childs fault for being molested by their priest.  cleanhippie   Oct-13-11 08:31 PM   #130 
        - A priest, a pedophile and a rapist walk into a bar...  onager   Oct-14-11 02:50 PM   #140 
  - The guy in the costume is protected by law. He has every right to be free of trespass  struggle4progress   Oct-14-11 12:42 AM   #134 
  - ...  NMMNG   Oct-13-11 05:45 PM   #123 
  - Blah, blah, blah....Do you EVER have anything relevant to say?  cleanhippie   Oct-13-11 07:08 PM   #124 
     - Commies!  NMMNG   Oct-13-11 07:20 PM   #127 
        - Actual photo! Militant Russian atheists marching!  onager   Oct-14-11 03:11 PM   #142 
           - There's some fantastic art there. K&R  laconicsax   Oct-14-11 03:22 PM   #143 
           - So much saddness... War should be outlawed.... Breadlines and  midnight   Oct-14-11 04:07 PM   #145 
           - I like this one.  rug   Oct-14-11 04:30 PM   #147 
           - Would be interesting to see what happened to them in the years after the war  humblebum   Oct-14-11 04:35 PM   #148 
           - Oh, yes, very interesting.  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 02:22 AM   #161 
           - Stalin temporarily let up on religious and other repression during World War II  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-15-11 12:44 AM   #154 
  - The PACP donned costumes depicting zombie renditions of the Pope and the prophet Muhammad and joined  Thats my opinion   Oct-14-11 01:42 PM   #136 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-14-11 02:04 PM   #138 
  - Do you not understand the difference  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-11 03:03 PM   #141 
  - What "thoughtful" insight you've brought to this thread.  laconicsax   Oct-14-11 04:02 PM   #144 
  - Well said.  darkstar3   Oct-14-11 07:29 PM   #150 
  - That's rich, considering the subject of the thread.  humblebum   Oct-14-11 07:50 PM   #151 
     - I must have missed the part where it becomes appropriate to assault someone.  laconicsax   Oct-14-11 09:12 PM   #153 
        - "his bigoted statements" and "perceived insult" - in light of the  humblebum   Oct-15-11 01:19 AM   #155 
           - As are your posts.  darkstar3   Oct-15-11 01:25 AM   #156 
              - So now you condone physical attacks, as well as bigoted speech. Just never ends.  humblebum   Oct-15-11 01:29 AM   #157 
                 - It's the theists here who are condoning physical attacks against atheists  NMMNG   Oct-15-11 01:36 AM   #158 
                 - Not at all. It's just that when a body walks around with a "Kick Me"  humblebum   Oct-15-11 01:49 AM   #159 
                    - Of course you'd blame the victim.  laconicsax   Oct-15-11 02:16 AM   #160 
                    - You can't possibly have posted this without a sense of irony.  darkstar3   Oct-15-11 02:22 AM   #162 
                    - I'm tellling you, its no poe. Its real.  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 02:30 AM   #164 
                    - Basically your position is it's OK to physically attack someone  NMMNG   Oct-15-11 02:37 AM   #165 
                       - And basically, I never even suggested such a thing. But I am equally repulsed by  humblebum   Oct-15-11 10:51 AM   #169 
                          - one-trick pony.  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 11:01 AM   #170 
                          - You've suggested it repeatedly on this thread alone  NMMNG   Oct-15-11 12:12 PM   #176 
                             - Don't forget hypocrite, too!  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 12:36 PM   #179 
                                - That's obvious to anybody with a modicum of intelligence  NMMNG   Oct-15-11 01:10 PM   #180 
                                   - I think we knew all along that was lacking.  cleanhippie   Oct-16-11 10:42 AM   #185 
                                      - Attacker or no attacker, the parading atheists are clearly a bigoted group.  humblebum   Oct-16-11 12:01 PM   #186 
                                         - The Parading Atheists need to team up with these guys to  humblebum   Oct-16-11 02:14 PM   #187 
                                         - Funny how allies can sometimes be found in the most unlikeliest of places.  cleanhippie   Oct-16-11 02:52 PM   #189 
                                            - Just another straw man. nt  humblebum   Oct-16-11 03:36 PM   #190 
                                            - Thank you for clearly demonstrating your ignorance on the subject...again.  cleanhippie   Oct-17-11 09:27 AM   #192 
                                         - Thank you for clearly demonstarting the point.  cleanhippie   Oct-16-11 02:50 PM   #188 
                 - You seem to only be convincing yourself with these twists, you know. No one buys it.  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 02:29 AM   #163 
                    - kinda like someone taking a swing at a Westboro Baptist funeral protester. nt  humblebum   Oct-15-11 02:45 AM   #166 
                       - Huh? Do you even know what you are talking about?  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 09:46 AM   #167 
                          - In this case the two groups are quite similar:  humblebum   Oct-15-11 10:47 AM   #168 
                             - And you would have one of those groups LOSE that constitutional protection.  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 11:02 AM   #171 
                                - And again, you resort to dishonesty. Both use inciteful hate speech and  humblebum   Oct-15-11 11:18 AM   #172 
                                   - Really? You WANT these non-believers to be able to continue to purposefully insult beliefs?  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 11:44 AM   #173 
                                      - Yep. But, they have no right to demand nor expect to be respected  humblebum   Oct-15-11 11:53 AM   #174 
                                         - If that is what you think the "idea" is, then no wonder you post the things you do.  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 12:07 PM   #175 
                                            - Such has been stated here on occasion and verbal abuse can also  humblebum   Oct-15-11 12:33 PM   #177 
                                               - You can label me as a proponent of free speech and expression.  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 12:35 PM   #178 
                                                  - I'll remember that the next time a student prays at a graduation ceremony. nt  humblebum   Oct-15-11 02:44 PM   #181 
                                                  - False parallel.  darkstar3   Oct-15-11 02:59 PM   #182 
                                                  - He doesn't refuse.  laconicsax   Oct-15-11 03:03 PM   #183 
                                                  - You do that.  cleanhippie   Oct-15-11 03:32 PM   #184 
  - complain, complain, compli]ain, thats all you do.  cleanhippie   Oct-14-11 04:28 PM   #146 
  - I think it's worth reviewing what we know so far and who is pushing this story.  struggle4progress   Oct-16-11 05:46 PM   #191 
     - While it would seem that this incident is a bit overblown in severety...  cleanhippie   Oct-17-11 09:35 AM   #193 
        - What the parading atheists are doing is no different than  humblebum   Oct-17-11 12:17 PM   #194 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-17-11 12:30 PM   #195 
        - I see an intentional religious slur equal to any racial slur and in  humblebum   Oct-17-11 01:41 PM   #197 
        - Your ignorance and repetition are boring.  cleanhippie   Oct-17-11 02:49 PM   #198 
           - As is yours. There is a whole lot of difference between  humblebum   Oct-17-11 03:01 PM   #199 
              - Only to you.  cleanhippie   Oct-17-11 04:21 PM   #200 
        - Unsurprisingly, this long long thread revolves mainly around claims made without evidence, and  struggle4progress   Oct-17-11 01:10 PM   #196 
 

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