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Sun Oct-09-11 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #85 |
| 86. So I point out that the Sagan quote is a summary of the argument from ignorance, |
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and you Google it and get the first link you can, and then completely ignore the point of our conversation?
The quote you pulled from Sagan is not his actual stance on any subject, but a demonstration of a fallacy. Go read the book and learn a little more about Sagan and maybe even the world in which we live.
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| -I like Jesus. How about you? |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 07:32 PM |
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cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 07:33 PM |
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I can be an attack dog, too! See? |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 07:34 PM |
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cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 07:34 PM |
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A beautiful furkid!!!!! nt |
FLyellowdog |
Oct-05-11 08:02 PM |
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HA I want that smiley. |
amyrose2712 |
Oct-05-11 07:34 PM |
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You may want to wash it first. |
rug |
Oct-05-11 08:05 PM |
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Is that what the priest says? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 10:32 PM |
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No, I heard it at a demo. |
rug |
Oct-05-11 10:44 PM |
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Nah, I prefer it unclean like the heathen I am. |
amyrose2712 |
Oct-06-11 11:08 AM |
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"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." |
Poll_Blind |
Oct-05-11 07:35 PM |
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Same. I have no problem with Jesus, it's the people that worship him that |
RKP5637 |
Oct-05-11 08:34 PM |
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I'm not sure atheists dispute his existence. |
PETRUS |
Oct-05-11 07:37 PM |
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I agree with the Gandhi quote. People corrupt Jesus's true teachings |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 07:37 PM |
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There's no such thing as a "true Christian". |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 07:44 PM |
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That is why |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 07:44 PM |
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Whip the money changers, curse the trees that give you untasty fruit, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 07:48 PM |
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If you like those, you'd have a ball |
PETRUS |
Oct-06-11 02:03 AM |
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7% of DUers believe Jesus never existed, 35% believe he did, 58% not sure |
bananas |
Oct-06-11 11:11 AM |
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You missed all the "Zeitgeist" movie atheist conspiracy theories |
bananas |
Oct-06-11 11:16 AM |
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I like Huck Finn. How about you? |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-05-11 07:38 PM |
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Jesus loves us all. The Bible teaches that. n/t |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 07:40 PM |
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Except the people he will condemn to hell for eternity. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 07:45 PM |
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Hell is reserved for the most evil of evils. |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 07:45 PM |
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And how does one who has never known of God or Jesus repent of their natural sin? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 07:49 PM |
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Spread the Word. Let people know the true Christianity |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 07:51 PM |
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A second dodge, and further proof that you ignore the following fact of your belief: |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 07:55 PM |
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Jesus died to forgive all sin. Not just Christian's. |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 07:56 PM |
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Jesus didn't actually die, but that couldn't be further from the point. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 08:00 PM |
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Those who uses Jesus's message and twist it for personal gain |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 08:01 PM |
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So God does send people to hell. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 08:03 PM |
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It differs for everyone. For me, love yourself, believe in the Lord and be a good person. |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 08:04 PM |
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The path to salvation is different for everyone? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 08:09 PM |
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Some people interpret the Bible differently. n/t |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 08:11 PM |
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So show me how you do it. Support the assertion. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 08:12 PM |
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I'll admit to you I'm currently going to be reading the Bible. |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 08:13 PM |
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Read carefully. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 08:16 PM |
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I don't understand the question, then. n/t |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 08:18 PM |
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I meant your Bible. Read it carefully. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 08:21 PM |
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Oh. Shall do. |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 08:23 PM |
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It might help me to see that if you didn't refer to atheism as a religious belief. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 08:29 PM |
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*facepalm* Dude, you just HAD to end with some total bullshit nonsense, huh?h |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 10:37 PM |
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According to you, it would be the utmost crime to spread Christianity anywhere. |
LAGC |
Oct-08-11 07:06 PM |
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Well obviously not ALL sin. |
trotsky |
Oct-05-11 08:46 PM |
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Why do you hate Mario? nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-05-11 08:14 PM |
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So you believe in hell, huh? |
trotsky |
Oct-05-11 08:45 PM |
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While might does not always make right, I like... |
Tyrs WolfDaemon |
Oct-05-11 07:43 PM |
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How can a man who didn't exist do good? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 07:43 PM |
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One thing I'll say for him... |
RevStPatrick |
Oct-05-11 07:49 PM |
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The Jesus I knew personally |
FLyellowdog |
Oct-05-11 08:05 PM |
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I think that was a different Jesus. n/t |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 08:06 PM |
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Probably. nt |
FLyellowdog |
Oct-05-11 08:12 PM |
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I like |
safeinOhio |
Oct-05-11 08:15 PM |
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The Jesus of the Bible is a fucking megalomaniacal asshole. |
stopbush |
Oct-05-11 08:34 PM |
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You're right |
customerserviceguy |
Oct-05-11 08:54 PM |
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BTW, that's an awfully Aryan Jesus. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 09:38 PM |
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You don't expect him to post a Jesus that doesn't look like him, do you? |
laconicsax |
Oct-05-11 10:36 PM |
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I prefer the |
AsahinaKimi |
Oct-05-11 10:45 PM |
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Guy's a little pale for a Nazarene. Empathy's an excellent idea. Don't hear it much from churches. |
DirkGently |
Oct-05-11 10:55 PM |
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Yes. |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-06-11 05:37 AM |
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You and I both, LeftishBrit. n/t |
socialshockwave |
Oct-06-11 05:58 AM |
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You may want to consider *your* actions in his name, then. n/t |
trotsky |
Oct-06-11 06:37 AM |
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Jesus loves you |
SecularMotion |
Oct-06-11 06:40 AM |
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you're |
Angry Dragon |
Oct-06-11 09:11 PM |
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correct |
SecularMotion |
Oct-07-11 05:28 AM |
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Dunno. Never met him. nt |
rrneck |
Oct-06-11 11:06 PM |
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I myself now feel indifferent about the person of Jesus; let me explain |
MikeH |
Oct-07-11 01:37 AM |
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There is no historical evidence that Jesus existed. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Oct-07-11 03:17 AM |
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There is no historical evidence that Jesus didn't exist. |
kwassa |
Oct-08-11 07:18 PM |
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You know that's not an argument for his existence, right? |
Humanist_Activist |
Oct-08-11 08:03 PM |
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uhm, no. |
kwassa |
Oct-08-11 10:27 PM |
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That's an abuse of that Sagan quote. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-08-11 10:35 PM |
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No, it isn't, actually. And Sagan is not the only person to make that statement. |
kwassa |
Oct-09-11 08:46 PM |
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Yes, it is, as others have pointed out. Sagan was summarizing a logical fallacy |
darkstar3 |
Oct-09-11 08:48 PM |
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You and several others are making the "argument from ignorance" here |
kwassa |
Oct-09-11 09:10 PM |
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So I point out that the Sagan quote is a summary of the argument from ignorance, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-09-11 09:17 PM |
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The point of whose conversation? Yours, or mine? |
kwassa |
Oct-09-11 09:36 PM |
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The problem with your point is that it flies in the face of Occam's Razor. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-09-11 09:46 PM |
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So? Occam's Razor isn't proof of anything, either. |
kwassa |
Oct-09-11 10:50 PM |
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I don't consider Wikipedia a reliable source of anything. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-09-11 10:56 PM |
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The Wiki article is very long, very annotated and referenced. |
kwassa |
Oct-10-11 08:51 AM |
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Right, Rumsfeld would agree with your argument here! nt |
PassingFair |
Oct-10-11 12:09 PM |
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I love it when people trot out that Sagan quote! |
laconicsax |
Oct-08-11 10:58 PM |
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As others said, you are misquoting Sagan, but that's not the point... |
Humanist_Activist |
Oct-09-11 07:44 AM |
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I would have to do no such thing. |
kwassa |
Oct-09-11 08:57 PM |
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I like Gandalf better. (n/t) |
Iggo |
Oct-07-11 12:02 PM |
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I just realized that Gandalf was dead for three days. |
ChadwickHenryWard |
Oct-07-11 03:20 PM |
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I don't think you'd |
frogmarch |
Oct-07-11 01:17 PM |
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I liked him better when he knew kung fu and hanged out with Morpheus. |
AngkorWot |
Oct-07-11 01:24 PM |
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"Jesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball." |
Jokerman |
Oct-07-11 02:04 PM |
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Partially. |
ChadwickHenryWard |
Oct-07-11 02:35 PM |
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Not an atheist or a christian and I don't know that he did some good |
Marrah_G |
Oct-08-11 06:42 PM |
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For someone who never married, he sure had a strong and unfounded opinion about divorce |
Book Lover |
Oct-09-11 08:42 PM |
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I am going to try to answer seriously |
dmallind |
Oct-10-11 11:34 AM |
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