Goblinmonger
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Wed Oct-05-11 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #68 |
| 70. You really want to stand behind your basic dictionary |
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as the best source for a definition? Because they aren't. There are much better sources. They are fine for a general understanding of the word, but there are many better places when you want specific detail. Looking at how experts or people in the field use the word is much better.
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| -The Persistent And Incorrect Belief That Atheism Is A Religion |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 09:29 AM |
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K&R |
MineralMan |
Oct-05-11 09:32 AM |
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Yeah, I've taken to giving a canned response to most of those usuals... |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 09:34 AM |
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Here is an example that just arrived downthread... |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 11:05 AM |
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Cue "someone" incorrectly referring to |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-05-11 09:32 AM |
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"atheism is a religion like off is a channel on your television..." |
mike_c |
Oct-05-11 09:37 AM |
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The religious |
salinen |
Oct-05-11 09:43 AM |
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Logical fallacy |
Thurifer |
Oct-05-11 09:45 AM |
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Considering that atheism does not try to prove anything, I'm unsure your premise is correct. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 09:48 AM |
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Atheism is about belief, agnosticism is about knowledge. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-05-11 09:54 AM |
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you are correct |
Celebration |
Oct-05-11 10:13 AM |
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He is not correct. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 10:18 AM |
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Actually, scientifically you can. |
trotsky |
Oct-06-11 06:50 AM |
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OK. |
Shadowflash |
Oct-05-11 11:11 AM |
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I prefer "realist" |
pdx_prog |
Oct-05-11 10:30 AM |
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But you can believe in the supernatural and be an atheist |
starroute |
Oct-05-11 12:45 PM |
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I just can't dredge up much care what they call it. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-05-11 10:45 AM |
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It is an anti-theistic religion with its own mantras and large following. |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 10:46 AM |
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........... |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-05-11 11:02 AM |
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Hey, look everyone! It's one of the usual suspects spewing the usual drivel! |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 11:03 AM |
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And, I neglected to add it has its own symbols, and martyrs, too. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 11:10 AM |
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What is that sound? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 11:11 AM |
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Hark, I think I hear the voice of a martyr now! NT |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 11:15 AM |
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Get a few of your friends in here and... |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-05-11 11:17 AM |
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... |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 11:23 AM |
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........ |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-05-11 11:15 AM |
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Well, if you want to describe people who are physically attacked or threatened with execution for |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-05-11 11:49 AM |
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That's what makes organized atheism's antireligious activities so |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 12:07 PM |
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I assume |
Shadowflash |
Oct-05-11 12:23 PM |
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Nope. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 12:27 PM |
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Sure, then |
Shadowflash |
Oct-05-11 12:31 PM |
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Yemelyan Yaroslavsky. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 12:39 PM |
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Wrong |
Shadowflash |
Oct-05-11 12:52 PM |
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He did MUCH as a leader of an atheist organization and |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 01:00 PM |
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He was and atheist |
Shadowflash |
Oct-05-11 01:13 PM |
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Well. When thousands upon thousands were summarily executed, imprisoned, |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 01:26 PM |
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So what you are saying is |
Shadowflash |
Oct-05-11 01:34 PM |
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I never said anything of the sort. Where did you find out about |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 01:53 PM |
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Since You Continue This, Sir, The Fraud You Engage In Should Be Pointed Out Clearly For All To See |
The Magistrate |
Oct-05-11 05:19 PM |
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^^^THIS RIGHT HERE^^^ |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 05:57 PM |
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Absolutely perfect response. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 06:00 PM |
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Shall we exempt the politics? |
westerebus |
Oct-05-11 11:33 PM |
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Well Said, Sir: Well Said Indeed |
The Magistrate |
Oct-05-11 11:53 PM |
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Agreed. |
westerebus |
Oct-06-11 05:41 PM |
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Excellent post! |
Nihil |
Oct-06-11 07:36 AM |
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Thank you. |
westerebus |
Oct-06-11 05:51 PM |
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Excellent example of atheist double-speak |
bananas |
Oct-06-11 08:09 AM |
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Perhaps, Sir, English is Not Your Native Language? |
The Magistrate |
Oct-06-11 08:56 AM |
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Perhaps, Sir, English is Not Your Native Language? |
bananas |
Oct-06-11 10:32 AM |
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Imitation is The Sincerest Form Of Flattery, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Oct-06-11 10:56 AM |
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"There is only one TRVE definition of atheism, thou shalt not have any other definitions before me" |
bananas |
Oct-06-11 08:20 AM |
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And what is the motivation to kill to eradicate the scourge of |
Leontius |
Oct-06-11 12:11 PM |
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No One Is Arguing, Sir, Whether One Motive Is Superior Or Inferior To Another |
The Magistrate |
Oct-06-11 01:37 PM |
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And in proving your point you prove mine. All you offer is |
Leontius |
Oct-06-11 01:55 PM |
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You Make No Point Whatever, Sir, And fail To Engage Mine In the Slightest |
The Magistrate |
Oct-06-11 02:13 PM |
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What he said. |
Shadowflash |
Oct-06-11 08:22 PM |
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So one person makes the entire movement? |
rbixby |
Oct-05-11 01:26 PM |
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I didn't think I could fit a few million names in my post. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 01:27 PM |
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The entire human race has a strong history of human right abuses |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-05-11 12:40 PM |
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You state opposition to thoughtcrime in relation to religion or state |
Leontius |
Oct-05-11 12:50 PM |
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I don''t live in the US; or know all the details; but in general I support penalties for hate crimes |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-05-11 05:41 PM |
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We'll just have to disagree and maybe I see the slope as too |
Leontius |
Oct-05-11 06:02 PM |
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You have yet to prove to anyone besides yourself that such a thing exists. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 06:03 PM |
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'victims of human rights abuses'. Less punchy, but more accurate...I'd |
David Sky |
Oct-05-11 10:12 PM |
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Not quite, anti theism is not atheism it's just subset of atheism, |
Leontius |
Oct-05-11 11:21 AM |
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Atheism is the subject, anti-theism is the verb. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 11:34 AM |
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Anti-theism is a noun |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-05-11 11:53 AM |
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It may be A noun, but it is THE verb of organized atheism, and becoming |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 12:03 PM |
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Oh, look what you did there with word play. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-05-11 12:04 PM |
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So the Christian Right is by the same token the verb of organized Christianity? |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-05-11 12:27 PM |
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I am not equating "atheism with anti-theism." But, I do equate |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 12:35 PM |
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You think that everyone who attends a meeting to discuss atheism... |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-05-11 12:43 PM |
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"consider support for political secularism as 'anti-theism'?" No. nt |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 01:02 PM |
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Okay. We can all go home now. |
Iggo |
Oct-05-11 01:16 PM |
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Yeah, but next week, he will say the opposite and claim he never stated otherwise. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 03:04 PM |
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Absolutely! |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-05-11 11:54 AM |
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You'll get no disagreement from me on that. It should not have |
Leontius |
Oct-05-11 12:18 PM |
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See reply 18 |
Shadowflash |
Oct-05-11 11:24 AM |
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You will NEVER get an honest answer to your most reasonable question. EVER. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 11:27 AM |
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Yeah, I know. |
Shadowflash |
Oct-05-11 11:40 AM |
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Supertramp fan? |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-05-11 11:44 AM |
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Yup. |
Shadowflash |
Oct-05-11 11:47 AM |
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No it isn't. Unless ANY opinion or interest is |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-05-11 11:47 AM |
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Music or sport, mathematics or literature are not the antithesis of anything, |
humblebum |
Oct-05-11 11:55 AM |
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But being a fan of one team is very much in opposition to being a fan of another |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-05-11 12:30 PM |
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Except, no it isn't. |
Iggo |
Oct-05-11 11:53 AM |
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That makes about as much sense as saying Yankee's Fans are members of a religion |
David Sky |
Oct-05-11 09:56 PM |
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K&R, (nt) |
Kurovski |
Oct-05-11 11:52 AM |
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You're close with your definition. But not quite right. |
A Simple Game |
Oct-05-11 02:13 PM |
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But the change you make is wrong. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-05-11 02:17 PM |
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Better get started on a campaign to change the standard |
Leontius |
Oct-05-11 03:52 PM |
#68 |
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You really want to stand behind your basic dictionary |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-05-11 05:04 PM |
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Belief equals Faith. Is that definition wrong? |
A Simple Game |
Oct-06-11 05:58 AM |
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Why do I have to prove there IS a god? |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-06-11 07:55 AM |
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You don't have to prove there is a god, that certainly is not your claim. |
A Simple Game |
Oct-06-11 11:51 AM |
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That was my typo I couldn't fix when I realized it. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-06-11 11:58 AM |
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Are YOU telling ME what I do and do not believe? Really? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 03:13 PM |
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Did I tell you I am as handsome as Brad Pitt? Smart as Einstein? |
A Simple Game |
Oct-06-11 05:52 AM |
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Ugh. Why do so many feel the need to be so damn obtuse? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-06-11 12:07 PM |
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Because reveling in the ambiguity of language is the only way to make the God box shrink more slowly |
darkstar3 |
Oct-06-11 05:33 PM |
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Sorry you don't feel up to the game. |
A Simple Game |
Oct-06-11 06:50 PM |
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Wow, you are really clever! |
cleanhippie |
Oct-06-11 06:51 PM |
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Obtuse to clever. I'm starting to make an impression! Yeah!! n/t |
A Simple Game |
Oct-06-11 09:14 PM |
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Yeah, you should be very proud of the impression you are making. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-06-11 09:21 PM |
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Come on, no comment on my being as handsome as |
A Simple Game |
Oct-07-11 08:20 AM |
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How can I testify to your handsomeness when I have never met you before? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-07-11 09:16 AM |
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"It offers no moral guidance, no political opinions and no world view." |
rug |
Oct-05-11 03:30 PM |
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never mind... |
Iggo |
Oct-05-11 05:14 PM |
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And yet an inordinate amount of time is spent by the religious |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 07:06 PM |
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Family resemblance |
tama |
Oct-05-11 05:00 PM |
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There is also the Hair Club For Men. |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 07:21 PM |
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Are you member in both? |
tama |
Oct-05-11 08:33 PM |
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Are you looking for membership information? |
cleanhippie |
Oct-05-11 10:47 PM |
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swell :) |
tama |
Oct-05-11 11:05 PM |
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I like fun. |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 07:24 PM |
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That is some weak tea. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 07:30 PM |
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I look at it this way. |
socialshockwave |
Oct-05-11 07:31 PM |
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I never claimed to know there were no gods. I'm an agnostic atheist. Look it up. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-05-11 07:42 PM |
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How do you know there isn't a tooth fairy? |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-06-11 11:03 AM |
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Exactly |
Shadowflash |
Oct-06-11 08:28 PM |
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Answer any one of the following: |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-06-11 11:03 AM |
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C'mon Goblinmonger, you know the answers. |
laconicsax |
Oct-06-11 10:17 PM |
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So you can even tell me how ONE |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-07-11 08:18 AM |
#120 |