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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-11 10:45 AM
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12. I just can't dredge up much care what they call it.
The religious world largely passes by without me noticing what they do, other than enjoying less traffic on Sunday mornings on those occasions when I'm making an early run to the auto parts store or home improvement store.

My youngest daughter just started school and I was expecting questions about what "god" was when she recited the pledge of allegiance to me but she just went by it like any other word, by rote.

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  -The Persistent And Incorrect Belief That Atheism Is A Religion cleanhippie  Oct-05-11 09:29 AM   #0 
  - K&R  MineralMan   Oct-05-11 09:32 AM   #1 
  - Yeah, I've taken to giving a canned response to most of those usuals...  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 09:34 AM   #3 
  - Here is an example that just arrived downthread...  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 11:05 AM   #16 
  - Cue "someone" incorrectly referring to  Goblinmonger   Oct-05-11 09:32 AM   #2 
  - "atheism is a religion like off is a channel on your television..."  mike_c   Oct-05-11 09:37 AM   #4 
  - The religious  salinen   Oct-05-11 09:43 AM   #5 
  - Logical fallacy  Thurifer   Oct-05-11 09:45 AM   #6 
  - Considering that atheism does not try to prove anything, I'm unsure your premise is correct.  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 09:48 AM   #7 
  - Atheism is about belief, agnosticism is about knowledge.  ZombieHorde   Oct-05-11 09:54 AM   #8 
  - you are correct  Celebration   Oct-05-11 10:13 AM   #9 
  - He is not correct.  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 10:18 AM   #10 
  - Actually, scientifically you can.  trotsky   Oct-06-11 06:50 AM   #93 
  - OK.  Shadowflash   Oct-05-11 11:11 AM   #18 
  - I prefer "realist"  pdx_prog   Oct-05-11 10:30 AM   #11 
  - But you can believe in the supernatural and be an atheist  starroute   Oct-05-11 12:45 PM   #51 
  - I just can't dredge up much care what they call it.  Atypical Liberal   Oct-05-11 10:45 AM   #12 
  - It is an anti-theistic religion with its own mantras and large following.  humblebum   Oct-05-11 10:46 AM   #13 
  - ...........  Goblinmonger   Oct-05-11 11:02 AM   #14 
  - Hey, look everyone! It's one of the usual suspects spewing the usual drivel!  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 11:03 AM   #15 
  - And, I neglected to add it has its own symbols, and martyrs, too. nt  humblebum   Oct-05-11 11:10 AM   #17 
     - What is that sound?  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 11:11 AM   #19 
     - Hark, I think I hear the voice of a martyr now! NT  humblebum   Oct-05-11 11:15 AM   #20 
     - Get a few of your friends in here and...  Goblinmonger   Oct-05-11 11:17 AM   #22 
     - ...  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 11:23 AM   #24 
     - ........  Goblinmonger   Oct-05-11 11:15 AM   #21 
     - Well, if you want to describe people who are physically attacked or threatened with execution for  LeftishBrit   Oct-05-11 11:49 AM   #32 
        - That's what makes organized atheism's antireligious activities so  humblebum   Oct-05-11 12:07 PM   #40 
        - I assume  Shadowflash   Oct-05-11 12:23 PM   #42 
        - Nope. nt  humblebum   Oct-05-11 12:27 PM   #43 
           - Sure, then  Shadowflash   Oct-05-11 12:31 PM   #46 
              - Yemelyan Yaroslavsky. nt  humblebum   Oct-05-11 12:39 PM   #48 
                 - Wrong  Shadowflash   Oct-05-11 12:52 PM   #53 
                    - He did MUCH as a leader of an atheist organization and  humblebum   Oct-05-11 01:00 PM   #54 
                       - He was and atheist  Shadowflash   Oct-05-11 01:13 PM   #56 
                       - Well. When thousands upon thousands were summarily executed, imprisoned,  humblebum   Oct-05-11 01:26 PM   #59 
                          - So what you are saying is  Shadowflash   Oct-05-11 01:34 PM   #61 
                          - I never said anything of the sort. Where did you find out about  humblebum   Oct-05-11 01:53 PM   #62 
                          - Since You Continue This, Sir, The Fraud You Engage In Should Be Pointed Out Clearly For All To See  The Magistrate   Oct-05-11 05:19 PM   #72 
                             - ^^^THIS RIGHT HERE^^^  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 05:57 PM   #74 
                             - Absolutely perfect response.  darkstar3   Oct-05-11 06:00 PM   #75 
                             - Shall we exempt the politics?  westerebus   Oct-05-11 11:33 PM   #89 
                             - Well Said, Sir: Well Said Indeed  The Magistrate   Oct-05-11 11:53 PM   #90 
                             - Agreed.  westerebus   Oct-06-11 05:41 PM   #111 
                             - Excellent post!  Nihil   Oct-06-11 07:36 AM   #94 
                                - Thank you.  westerebus   Oct-06-11 05:51 PM   #112 
                             - Excellent example of atheist double-speak  bananas   Oct-06-11 08:09 AM   #96 
                             - Perhaps, Sir, English is Not Your Native Language?  The Magistrate   Oct-06-11 08:56 AM   #98 
                                - Perhaps, Sir, English is Not Your Native Language?  bananas   Oct-06-11 10:32 AM   #99 
                                   - Imitation is The Sincerest Form Of Flattery, Sir  The Magistrate   Oct-06-11 10:56 AM   #100 
                             - "There is only one TRVE definition of atheism, thou shalt not have any other definitions before me"  bananas   Oct-06-11 08:20 AM   #97 
                             - And what is the motivation to kill to eradicate the scourge of  Leontius   Oct-06-11 12:11 PM   #106 
                             - No One Is Arguing, Sir, Whether One Motive Is Superior Or Inferior To Another  The Magistrate   Oct-06-11 01:37 PM   #107 
                                - And in proving your point you prove mine. All you offer is  Leontius   Oct-06-11 01:55 PM   #108 
                                   - You Make No Point Whatever, Sir, And fail To Engage Mine In the Slightest  The Magistrate   Oct-06-11 02:13 PM   #109 
                             - What he said.  Shadowflash   Oct-06-11 08:22 PM   #115 
                       - So one person makes the entire movement?  rbixby   Oct-05-11 01:26 PM   #58 
                          - I didn't think I could fit a few million names in my post. nt  humblebum   Oct-05-11 01:27 PM   #60 
        - The entire human race has a strong history of human right abuses  LeftishBrit   Oct-05-11 12:40 PM   #49 
        - You state opposition to thoughtcrime in relation to religion or state  Leontius   Oct-05-11 12:50 PM   #52 
           - I don''t live in the US; or know all the details; but in general I support penalties for hate crimes  LeftishBrit   Oct-05-11 05:41 PM   #73 
              - We'll just have to disagree and maybe I see the slope as too  Leontius   Oct-05-11 06:02 PM   #76 
        - You have yet to prove to anyone besides yourself that such a thing exists.  darkstar3   Oct-05-11 06:03 PM   #77 
        - 'victims of human rights abuses'. Less punchy, but more accurate...I'd  David Sky   Oct-05-11 10:12 PM   #86 
  - Not quite, anti theism is not atheism it's just subset of atheism,  Leontius   Oct-05-11 11:21 AM   #23 
  - Atheism is the subject, anti-theism is the verb. nt  humblebum   Oct-05-11 11:34 AM   #27 
  - Anti-theism is a noun  LeftishBrit   Oct-05-11 11:53 AM   #34 
     - It may be A noun, but it is THE verb of organized atheism, and becoming  humblebum   Oct-05-11 12:03 PM   #38 
        - Oh, look what you did there with word play.  Goblinmonger   Oct-05-11 12:04 PM   #39 
        - So the Christian Right is by the same token the verb of organized Christianity?  LeftishBrit   Oct-05-11 12:27 PM   #44 
           - I am not equating "atheism with anti-theism." But, I do equate  humblebum   Oct-05-11 12:35 PM   #47 
              - You think that everyone who attends a meeting to discuss atheism...  LeftishBrit   Oct-05-11 12:43 PM   #50 
                 - "consider support for political secularism as 'anti-theism'?" No. nt  humblebum   Oct-05-11 01:02 PM   #55 
                 - Okay. We can all go home now.  Iggo   Oct-05-11 01:16 PM   #57 
                    - Yeah, but next week, he will say the opposite and claim he never stated otherwise.  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 03:04 PM   #65 
  - Absolutely!  LeftishBrit   Oct-05-11 11:54 AM   #36 
     - You'll get no disagreement from me on that. It should not have  Leontius   Oct-05-11 12:18 PM   #41 
  - See reply 18  Shadowflash   Oct-05-11 11:24 AM   #25 
  - You will NEVER get an honest answer to your most reasonable question. EVER.  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 11:27 AM   #26 
     - Yeah, I know.  Shadowflash   Oct-05-11 11:40 AM   #28 
        - Supertramp fan?  Goblinmonger   Oct-05-11 11:44 AM   #29 
           - Yup.  Shadowflash   Oct-05-11 11:47 AM   #31 
  - No it isn't. Unless ANY opinion or interest is  LeftishBrit   Oct-05-11 11:47 AM   #30 
  - Music or sport, mathematics or literature are not the antithesis of anything,  humblebum   Oct-05-11 11:55 AM   #37 
     - But being a fan of one team is very much in opposition to being a fan of another  LeftishBrit   Oct-05-11 12:30 PM   #45 
  - Except, no it isn't.  Iggo   Oct-05-11 11:53 AM   #35 
  - That makes about as much sense as saying Yankee's Fans are members of a religion  David Sky   Oct-05-11 09:56 PM   #85 
  - K&R, (nt)  Kurovski   Oct-05-11 11:52 AM   #33 
  - You're close with your definition. But not quite right.  A Simple Game   Oct-05-11 02:13 PM   #63 
  - But the change you make is wrong.  Goblinmonger   Oct-05-11 02:17 PM   #64 
  - Better get started on a campaign to change the standard  Leontius   Oct-05-11 03:52 PM   #68 
  - You really want to stand behind your basic dictionary  Goblinmonger   Oct-05-11 05:04 PM   #70 
  - Belief equals Faith. Is that definition wrong?  A Simple Game   Oct-06-11 05:58 AM   #92 
     - Why do I have to prove there IS a god?  Goblinmonger   Oct-06-11 07:55 AM   #95 
        - You don't have to prove there is a god, that certainly is not your claim.  A Simple Game   Oct-06-11 11:51 AM   #103 
           - That was my typo I couldn't fix when I realized it.  Goblinmonger   Oct-06-11 11:58 AM   #104 
  - Are YOU telling ME what I do and do not believe? Really?  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 03:13 PM   #66 
     - Did I tell you I am as handsome as Brad Pitt? Smart as Einstein?  A Simple Game   Oct-06-11 05:52 AM   #91 
        - Ugh. Why do so many feel the need to be so damn obtuse?  cleanhippie   Oct-06-11 12:07 PM   #105 
           - Because reveling in the ambiguity of language is the only way to make the God box shrink more slowly  darkstar3   Oct-06-11 05:33 PM   #110 
           - Sorry you don't feel up to the game.  A Simple Game   Oct-06-11 06:50 PM   #113 
              - Wow, you are really clever!  cleanhippie   Oct-06-11 06:51 PM   #114 
                 - Obtuse to clever. I'm starting to make an impression! Yeah!! n/t  A Simple Game   Oct-06-11 09:14 PM   #117 
                    - Yeah, you should be very proud of the impression you are making.  cleanhippie   Oct-06-11 09:21 PM   #118 
                       - Come on, no comment on my being as handsome as  A Simple Game   Oct-07-11 08:20 AM   #121 
                          - How can I testify to your handsomeness when I have never met you before?  cleanhippie   Oct-07-11 09:16 AM   #122 
  - "It offers no moral guidance, no political opinions and no world view."  rug   Oct-05-11 03:30 PM   #67 
  - never mind...  Iggo   Oct-05-11 05:14 PM   #71 
  - And yet an inordinate amount of time is spent by the religious  darkstar3   Oct-05-11 07:06 PM   #78 
  - Family resemblance  tama   Oct-05-11 05:00 PM   #69 
  - There is also the Hair Club For Men.  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 07:21 PM   #79 
     - Are you member in both?  tama   Oct-05-11 08:33 PM   #84 
        - Are you looking for membership information?  cleanhippie   Oct-05-11 10:47 PM   #87 
           - swell :)  tama   Oct-05-11 11:05 PM   #88 
  - I like fun.  socialshockwave   Oct-05-11 07:24 PM   #80 
     - That is some weak tea.  darkstar3   Oct-05-11 07:30 PM   #81 
     - I look at it this way.  socialshockwave   Oct-05-11 07:31 PM   #82 
        - I never claimed to know there were no gods. I'm an agnostic atheist. Look it up.  darkstar3   Oct-05-11 07:42 PM   #83 
        - How do you know there isn't a tooth fairy?  Goblinmonger   Oct-06-11 11:03 AM   #102 
           - Exactly  Shadowflash   Oct-06-11 08:28 PM   #116 
     - Answer any one of the following:  Goblinmonger   Oct-06-11 11:03 AM   #101 
     - C'mon Goblinmonger, you know the answers.  laconicsax   Oct-06-11 10:17 PM   #119 
     - So you can even tell me how ONE  Goblinmonger   Oct-07-11 08:18 AM   #120 
 

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