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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #16
26. Atheism is a lack of belief in gods
Period. It is not a philosophy, an overarching worldview or a guide to any particular kind of attitudes or behaviors. I know you and many other thought-free people have tried desperately to paint it as a philosophy or a religion (presumably to make it easier for you to slam), but it's an intellectually bankrupt argument.
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  -A Philosopher of Religion Calls it Quits cleanhippie  Aug-14-11 10:14 AM   #0 
  - "an intentional attempt to fool people"  Uben   Aug-14-11 10:21 AM   #1 
  - Thats an opinion based on factual observation. +1  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 10:28 AM   #4 
  - K&R!!!!!  Owl   Aug-14-11 10:22 AM   #2 
  - Religion is a tool of the elite to keep the masses enslaved. I knew that as a child.  valerief   Aug-14-11 10:24 AM   #3 
  - I often wonder the same thing.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 10:29 AM   #5 
  - organized religion = upper middle tier of the capitalist pyramid scheme  alterfurz   Aug-14-11 11:52 AM   #11 
  - great quote  RainDog   Aug-14-11 10:40 AM   #6 
  - I think that exactly it.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 10:48 AM   #7 
  - meh - happens, rarely, both ways; Flew and Parsons traded teams is all. nt  dmallind   Aug-14-11 10:51 AM   #8 
  - Has he said anything else in the last seven months?  rug   Aug-14-11 11:16 AM   #9 
  - If the American Christian churches would die and disappear, the GOP's propaganda would no longer  Sarah Ibarruri   Aug-14-11 11:18 AM   #10 
  - GOD IS GOING TO GET YOU FOR THAT  HowHasItComeToThis   Aug-14-11 12:31 PM   #18 
     - lol God is in shock up in heaven seeing how Christian churches view Jesus as a greedy, bloodthirsty  Sarah Ibarruri   Aug-14-11 04:02 PM   #58 
  - So he sold out, not exactly an unusual occurrence, never heard of him anyway.  Kurmudgeon   Aug-14-11 11:54 AM   #12 
  - And now you have.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 11:57 AM   #13 
  - On what basis do you say he sold out?  Jim Lane   Aug-14-11 12:36 PM   #22 
     - You're probably right, he was a fraud all along.  Kurmudgeon   Aug-14-11 04:06 PM   #59 
        - an example of cognitive dissonance in action  RainDog   Aug-14-11 06:22 PM   #66 
        - Still never heard of him, or you. So neither of you have that much influence or importance.  Kurmudgeon   Aug-15-11 09:11 AM   #77 
           - Yet more christian values on display. You never heard or knew of him, yet you call him a FRAUD and  cleanhippie   Aug-15-11 09:56 AM   #78 
              - Yet more prejudice on display too.  Kurmudgeon   Aug-15-11 10:14 AM   #80 
              - Since when did pointing out YOUR hypocrisy become prejudice?  cleanhippie   Aug-15-11 10:17 AM   #81 
              - why bother with such obvious idiocy?  RainDog   Aug-15-11 06:09 PM   #87 
        - OK, so all I get from you is that anyone who disagrees with you is ipso facto a fraud and a sellout.  Jim Lane   Aug-14-11 10:02 PM   #73 
           - Ok, list the times I've used those terms.  Kurmudgeon   Aug-15-11 09:09 AM   #76 
              - You did it RIGHT HERE with someone you said you had NEVER HEARD OF!!!  cleanhippie   Aug-15-11 10:00 AM   #79 
  - There have been many who have went in the other direction, also, after  humblebum   Aug-14-11 12:05 PM   #14 
  - Just what IS the "atheistic philosophy" ?  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 12:07 PM   #15 
     - An atheist asking "Just what IS the 'atheistic philosophy' " - UM?  humblebum   Aug-14-11 12:17 PM   #16 
        - Maybe thats just where you have yourself confused.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 12:21 PM   #17 
        - So, in effect what you are telling me is that you do not use reason  humblebum   Aug-14-11 12:35 PM   #20 
           - I see its just more of the same from you.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 12:36 PM   #21 
           - Yes. It's called reasoning. nt  humblebum   Aug-14-11 12:37 PM   #24 
              - No, what you are doing has another name.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 12:39 PM   #27 
           - There are quite a number of  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 12:48 PM   #33 
              - I'm sure there are some bald atheistic philosophers. nt  humblebum   Aug-14-11 12:58 PM   #37 
        - Atheists have a philosophy about god the way not collecting stamps is a hobby.  stopbush   Aug-14-11 12:34 PM   #19 
        - That's a tired old atheist retort. nt  humblebum   Aug-14-11 12:36 PM   #23 
           - And your schtick is just as tired and old.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 12:38 PM   #25 
           - You use your "schtick" much more than I do mine. One only needs to  humblebum   Aug-14-11 12:41 PM   #30 
              - Yep. More of the same from you.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 12:42 PM   #31 
                 - Sometimes the obvious truth hurts. nt  humblebum   Aug-14-11 01:16 PM   #38 
                    - You tell me how much it hurts. You are the one that keeps pulling it over and over.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 01:36 PM   #42 
           - Fine, then answer it  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 12:40 PM   #28 
              - We both know he will never answer it. It what he does.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 12:46 PM   #32 
              - Of course he won't  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 12:49 PM   #34 
                 - I also realize that personal attacks and ad hominems comprise the  humblebum   Aug-14-11 01:24 PM   #39 
                    - .  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 01:40 PM   #45 
                    - Says the mouther of the reason-free phrase  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 02:41 PM   #51 
                       - Actually there is a reason for calling it a "tired old atheist retort."  humblebum   Aug-14-11 08:39 PM   #70 
                          - Call it whatever you like, you still can't answer it  skepticscott   Aug-15-11 03:27 PM   #84 
                          - And STILL can't answer it..  skepticscott   Aug-18-11 06:06 PM   #137 
              - It's flaw is that it is a vacuous argument designed to look like an intelligent  humblebum   Aug-14-11 12:54 PM   #36 
                 - Your title describes  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 02:42 PM   #52 
        - Atheism is a lack of belief in gods  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 12:39 PM   #26 
        - Wait for it....wait for it..... and cue the militant atheists and radical athesists in 3...2..1...  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 12:40 PM   #29 
        - I'm waiting for  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 12:51 PM   #35 
           - That might be comical to you but not to those who experienced  humblebum   Aug-14-11 01:33 PM   #41 
              - Bwahahahaha!  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 01:37 PM   #43 
              - Where did I ever say or even imply  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 02:37 PM   #50 
                 - Uh Huh. nt  humblebum   Aug-14-11 02:48 PM   #53 
                    - Another dodging non-answer  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 02:51 PM   #55 
                       - Yeh, uh huh.  humblebum   Aug-14-11 03:10 PM   #57 
        - A piece on "atheistic philosophy" fron an atheist website:  humblebum   Aug-14-11 01:29 PM   #40 
           - And that has just fuck-all to do with MY lack of belief in your god.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 01:39 PM   #44 
           - I believe your original question to me was: "Just what IS the 'atheistic philosophy'?"  humblebum   Aug-14-11 01:54 PM   #47 
              - So why did it take you 15 posts to answer directly?  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 01:59 PM   #48 
                 - I couldn't care less whether you agree with it or not. I gave a definition.  humblebum   Aug-14-11 02:17 PM   #49 
                    - Yeah, you are done.  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 04:49 PM   #62 
           - He completely confuses  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 02:48 PM   #54 
           - Then you really should take it up with the atheist author whose  humblebum   Aug-14-11 02:58 PM   #56 
              - Since you're the one  skepticscott   Aug-14-11 05:22 PM   #64 
              - Then my friend, you lose by default since I have shown that the concept  humblebum   Aug-14-11 05:28 PM   #65 
                 - No, what you've shown is that people who  skepticscott   Aug-15-11 03:24 PM   #83 
                    - So who is talking about the "philosophy of atheism"? the entire time  humblebum   Aug-15-11 04:14 PM   #85 
              - Fred Phelps' definition of Christianity is on a Christian website. You agree with it? nt  dmallind   Aug-15-11 08:36 AM   #75 
                 - Of course not. Fred Phelps is a one-man freak show and I  humblebum   Aug-15-11 05:54 PM   #86 
                    - So why does this one man in India with a website speak for all atheists?  dmallind   Aug-16-11 10:00 AM   #88 
                       - I never said he did. I only said that "atheistic" philosophies exist.  humblebum   Aug-16-11 12:33 PM   #89 
                          - I don't think anyone denies atheistic philosophIES exist, only that there is one shared philosophY  dmallind   Aug-16-11 12:47 PM   #90 
                          - totally agree.  humblebum   Aug-16-11 01:00 PM   #91 
                          - 100% false. Your original post stated THE atheistic philosophy.  cleanhippie   Aug-16-11 05:24 PM   #92 
                          - I don't have to move them, you do it for me. nt  humblebum   Aug-16-11 06:24 PM   #94 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-16-11 07:35 PM   #98 
                          - It's fine that you don't understand  skepticscott   Aug-16-11 05:51 PM   #93 
                             - In other words, everyone else is wrong and you are right. Got it. nt  humblebum   Aug-16-11 06:27 PM   #95 
                             - No, In other words, you are full of shit. Your OWN posts PROVE you are full of shit.  cleanhippie   Aug-16-11 07:36 PM   #99 
                                - It's getting more difficult to find anything intelligible in your posts. nt  humblebum   Aug-16-11 07:44 PM   #101 
                                   - Do you post in front of a mirror? n/t  laconicsax   Aug-16-11 07:45 PM   #102 
                                   - Wow, dude, you are a display of cognative dissonance in action.  cleanhippie   Aug-16-11 07:49 PM   #103 
                                      - I rest my case. nt  humblebum   Aug-16-11 08:06 PM   #104 
                                         - Your case was displaying cognitive dissonance?  cleanhippie   Aug-16-11 08:14 PM   #105 
                                            - then why do you keep hanging on? I've already proven that atheistic philosophies  humblebum   Aug-16-11 09:00 PM   #106 
                                            - That has to be one of the sillier things you've said.  laconicsax   Aug-16-11 09:28 PM   #107 
                                            - Even when the evidence is staring you right in the face, you still deny it. Now  humblebum   Aug-16-11 09:34 PM   #108 
                                            - I don't know what's funnier...  laconicsax   Aug-16-11 09:54 PM   #111 
                                            - You had an argument? nt  humblebum   Aug-16-11 11:24 PM   #113 
                                            - If you read my comment, #107 you might notice it.  laconicsax   Aug-16-11 11:37 PM   #114 
                                            - I saw it and it ran counter to the post that it responded to which  humblebum   Aug-17-11 12:36 AM   #115 
                                            - Somehow, you missed the entirety of what I posted.  laconicsax   Aug-17-11 12:59 AM   #116 
                                            - All righty then. I can think of few schools of philosophic thought  humblebum   Aug-17-11 04:32 AM   #117 
                                            - Do you even know what you're arguing anymore?  laconicsax   Aug-17-11 04:56 AM   #118 
                                            - Apparently more than you do. Inspite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary  humblebum   Aug-17-11 05:20 AM   #120 
                                            - Overwhelming evidence?  laconicsax   Aug-17-11 10:38 AM   #122 
                                            - "All you've put forward is that some philosophers are atheists" - hardly  humblebum   Aug-17-11 12:21 PM   #123 
                                            - Oh noes! More philosophers!  laconicsax   Aug-17-11 01:23 PM   #124 
                                            - Go right ahead. Theism is very much a philosophy in my book.  humblebum   Aug-17-11 01:27 PM   #125 
                                            - Maybe you can explain something then.  laconicsax   Aug-17-11 01:37 PM   #126 
                                            - Just because it is a broad philosophy certainly does not mean all  humblebum   Aug-17-11 02:48 PM   #127 
                                            - That sure is a lot of hand-waving.  laconicsax   Aug-17-11 03:13 PM   #128 
                                            - I think I've already answered your question. nt  humblebum   Aug-17-11 03:56 PM   #129 
                                            - You haven't, but that's ok. I know you don't have an answer. n/t  laconicsax   Aug-17-11 04:30 PM   #130 
                                            - As matter of fact I did in my prior response. When two parties adhering to  humblebum   Aug-17-11 06:58 PM   #131 
                                            - They're atheists the same way that both Al Franken and Michelle Bachmann are Minnesotans.  laconicsax   Aug-18-11 12:03 AM   #132 
                                            - Keep telling yourself that. nt  humblebum   Aug-18-11 12:14 AM   #133 
                                            - Why shouldn't I? It's the truth. n/t  laconicsax   Aug-18-11 12:16 AM   #134 
                                            - Denial must be part of the philosophy. nt  humblebum   Aug-18-11 02:40 PM   #135 
                                            - What philosophy is that?  cleanhippie   Aug-18-11 04:52 PM   #136 
                                            - The atheist philosophy that he, an atheist, subcribes to.  laconicsax   Aug-18-11 10:04 PM   #141 
                                            - You tell me. It's your philosophy as much as it is mine. n/t  laconicsax   Aug-18-11 06:36 PM   #138 
                                            - Tell you what? nt  humblebum   Aug-18-11 07:39 PM   #139 
                                            - If denial is part of our shared atheist philosophy.  laconicsax   Aug-18-11 10:00 PM   #140 
                                            - Congratulations. You have just shown me that you do indeed  humblebum   Aug-18-11 10:30 PM   #142 
                                            - WOOSH!!!!  laconicsax   Aug-18-11 10:45 PM   #143 
                                            - You give new meaning to the phrase "artful dodger" and you  humblebum   Aug-19-11 01:41 AM   #144 
                                            - All I'm saying, is that if there's a philosophy of atheism, you, an atheist, must follow it.  laconicsax   Aug-19-11 02:55 PM   #145 
                                            - Your reasoning is a vacuous to say the least, though I have seen  humblebum   Aug-19-11 03:35 PM   #146 
                                            - I bet I can name dozens of gods you don't believe in.  laconicsax   Aug-19-11 03:43 PM   #147 
                                            - That is a single interpretation of atheism, as has already been pointed out  humblebum   Aug-19-11 03:52 PM   #148 
                                            - The truth is often simple.  laconicsax   Aug-19-11 03:57 PM   #149 
                                            - All of them and none of them. And if there's been any special pleading,  humblebum   Aug-19-11 04:08 PM   #150 
                                            - What an honest way to discuss things!  laconicsax   Aug-19-11 04:20 PM   #151 
                                            - It's amazing, but predictable, how when your reasoning skills  humblebum   Aug-19-11 07:21 PM   #152 
                                            - It only doesn't make sense to you because it doesn't fit your straw man.  laconicsax   Aug-19-11 07:34 PM   #153 
                                            - You seem to think it is, not being able to handle the fact that  humblebum   Aug-19-11 09:38 PM   #154 
                                            - And we're back to where we started...  laconicsax   Aug-19-11 10:06 PM   #155 
                                            - The comical thing about you rambling here is that you have just expounded your  humblebum   Aug-19-11 11:45 PM   #156 
                                            - Just like your hobby of not doing Schenkerian analysis on post-tonal compositions.  laconicsax   Aug-20-11 12:26 AM   #157 
                                            - Very few groups of militant Schenkerian analytics have formed and organized  humblebum   Aug-20-11 01:14 AM   #158 
                                            - Link or it didn't happen.  laconicsax   Aug-20-11 01:20 AM   #159 
                                            - Huh? nt  humblebum   Aug-20-11 02:24 AM   #160 
                                            - Thought so. n/t  laconicsax   Aug-20-11 07:35 PM   #161 
                                            - Dude, you are a laugh riot! Please stop, I need to breathe for a minute...  cleanhippie   Aug-16-11 09:45 PM   #109 
                                            - It's still getting more difficult to find anything intelligible in your posts. Oh well.  humblebum   Aug-16-11 09:52 PM   #110 
                                            - BWahahahahahahahahahaha!  cleanhippie   Aug-16-11 09:55 PM   #112 
                                            - You probably think  skepticscott   Aug-17-11 06:37 AM   #121 
                             - Here's a list of some of the others who don't understand:  humblebum   Aug-16-11 06:40 PM   #96 
                                - BWAHAHAHAHA!!!  laconicsax   Aug-16-11 06:55 PM   #97 
                                - Oh. My. Dog.  cleanhippie   Aug-16-11 07:37 PM   #100 
                                - A list of philosophers who happen to be atheists  skepticscott   Aug-17-11 05:15 AM   #119 
           - Goparaju Ramachandra Rao  frogmarch   Aug-14-11 04:20 PM   #60 
              - I never said atheism was a philosophy (although if it is reasoned)  humblebum   Aug-14-11 04:28 PM   #61 
              - Do you see what he did there? ^^^  cleanhippie   Aug-14-11 04:51 PM   #63 
                 - Yes I did  frogmarch   Aug-14-11 06:40 PM   #67 
        - There is no atheistic philosophy. Similarly, there is no theistic philosophy.  ZombieHorde   Aug-14-11 06:53 PM   #68 
           - So then, is atheistic existentialism not an atheistic philosophy?  humblebum   Aug-14-11 07:34 PM   #69 
              - I understand your point, and I suppose you could use those classifications, but  ZombieHorde   Aug-14-11 08:48 PM   #71 
              - Soren Kierkegaard is considered a philosopher and his ideas  humblebum   Aug-14-11 08:56 PM   #72 
                 - I agree he is a Christian philosopher, I also agree calling any Christian's  ZombieHorde   Aug-14-11 11:15 PM   #74 
              - "atheistic" is far too broad, it can encompass anything without a god component...  Humanist_Activist   Aug-15-11 10:51 AM   #82 
  - All theology is nothing but trying to rationalize bullshit.  Odin2005   Aug-14-11 01:47 PM   #46 
 

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