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Tue Aug-02-11 02:56 AM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 32. There are many wonderful, caring atheists around. You are free |
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to promote anything you feel like promoting. You don't have to ask anyone, but there are always consequences for actions, both good and bad.
It's people who cause hatred whether they are atheist, religious, political, or otherwise.
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| -Atheist Billboards in Brazil pull no punches |
pokerfan |
Aug-01-11 07:57 PM |
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Voltaire's quote comes to mind looking at that last one |
Blecht |
Aug-01-11 08:00 PM |
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+1,000,000 |
Auggie |
Aug-01-11 08:22 PM |
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Right is right, truth is truth. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-01-11 08:04 PM |
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Bertrand Russell: What We Must Do |
pokerfan |
Aug-01-11 08:19 PM |
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A big fat AMEN to that, Brother Russell! And some Carl Sagan to buttress it. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-01-11 09:04 PM |
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Another Bertrand Russell quote: |
humblebum |
Aug-02-11 07:32 PM |
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Warning |
darkstar3 |
Aug-02-11 07:40 PM |
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Why am I reminded of one of my favorite comic strips? |
PassingFair |
Aug-02-11 08:02 PM |
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Hitler planned to destroy Christianity after the war. |
Kurmudgeon |
Aug-01-11 08:15 PM |
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The question is not whether Hitler was a Christian |
arcane1 |
Aug-01-11 08:20 PM |
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Yes, all bad people are clearly atheists. |
trotsky |
Aug-01-11 08:24 PM |
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Huh? |
arcane1 |
Aug-01-11 08:30 PM |
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If bad people don't really believe the religious dialog they are pushing, |
trotsky |
Aug-01-11 08:31 PM |
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I don't know if he was a true believer or not |
arcane1 |
Aug-01-11 08:36 PM |
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OK, no prob! |
trotsky |
Aug-01-11 08:44 PM |
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Take that out to it's logical conclusion |
tortoise1956 |
Aug-05-11 12:42 AM |
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Yes, and wikipedia is accurate, especially about troll-bait subjects like Hitler. |
darkstar3 |
Aug-01-11 08:22 PM |
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Unless you were able to read his mind... |
trotsky |
Aug-01-11 08:23 PM |
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No True Scotsman? |
pokerfan |
Aug-01-11 08:23 PM |
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I'm not really sure why, in this forum, we persist in taking Nazi quotes at face value. |
struggle4progress |
Aug-02-11 01:04 PM |
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Stalin claimed to be an atheist. I believe him. |
trotsky |
Aug-02-11 01:11 PM |
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ZING! |
Goblinmonger |
Aug-02-11 03:49 PM |
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And I got to do it to him twice in the same thread. |
trotsky |
Aug-02-11 04:21 PM |
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Does it matter? |
pokerfan |
Aug-02-11 07:09 PM |
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The topic under discussion seems to be the claim of the first billboard in the OP. |
struggle4progress |
Aug-03-11 04:22 AM |
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I was just curious |
pokerfan |
Aug-03-11 04:52 PM |
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I should expect "NTS!" not to be the retort to a claim "So-and-so was an opportunistic liar," |
struggle4progress |
Aug-04-11 11:54 AM |
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Do you have a non-Wikipedia source for that? nt |
ZombieHorde |
Aug-01-11 09:21 PM |
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He didn't put sugar in his porridge eh? Claims are all we can use to judge the beliefs of others' n |
dmallind |
Aug-02-11 08:33 AM |
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... How Hitler's Forces Planned To Destroy German Christianity |
struggle4progress |
Aug-02-11 01:32 PM |
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"According to Baldur von Schirach, the Nazi leader of the German youth corps..." |
trotsky |
Aug-02-11 01:59 PM |
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I provided a pdf link to the document on which the NYT article is based: it is a re-publication, |
struggle4progress |
Aug-02-11 03:14 PM |
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LOL |
trotsky |
Aug-02-11 03:55 PM |
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ZING! |
laconicsax |
Aug-02-11 05:00 PM |
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It's part of a study used by the Nuremberg investigators. Conclusions probably aren't controversial |
struggle4progress |
Aug-02-11 06:20 PM |
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It's OK. I'm sure we can trust the Nazis who say what you want to hear. n/t |
trotsky |
Aug-02-11 06:36 PM |
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This is what is referred to as "revisionism" |
Taverner |
Aug-02-11 05:37 PM |
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Hardly: the document was used by the Nuremberg prosecutors |
struggle4progress |
Aug-02-11 06:22 PM |
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And we can be certain no Nazi would have lied... |
trotsky |
Aug-02-11 06:37 PM |
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If you read his super-secret interviews (can't remember the name) |
Goblinmonger |
Aug-02-11 03:48 PM |
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You're garbling several different things. During the "Church-Struggle" period in the early years of |
struggle4progress |
Aug-02-11 06:51 PM |
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Well, it just sounds like the Nazis wanted a particular VERSION of Christianity to prevail. |
LAGC |
Aug-03-11 02:46 AM |
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NSDAP Kreisleitung Eisenach 1 July 1941 |
struggle4progress |
Aug-03-11 03:17 AM |
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... A Hitler Youth marching song ... |
struggle4progress |
Aug-03-11 03:19 AM |
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Jewish references erased in newly found Nazi Bible |
struggle4progress |
Aug-03-11 03:34 AM |
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"... What the Hitler government envisioned for Germany was clearly set out in a thirty-point program |
struggle4progress |
Aug-03-11 03:47 AM |
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Original Document |
struggle4progress |
Aug-03-11 04:08 AM |
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... Rosenberg expressed his theory as to the place of religion in the National Socialist State |
struggle4progress |
Aug-03-11 03:56 AM |
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Wow, spam-o-rama. |
LAGC |
Aug-03-11 04:14 AM |
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Eh? I've given you multiple links supporting my comments in #57. I'm not sure how |
struggle4progress |
Aug-03-11 04:45 AM |
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Yup, and each link does nothing to dispel the notion... |
trotsky |
Aug-03-11 06:08 AM |
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You'd be much more interesting to read if you put a bit more thought into your posts: |
struggle4progress |
Aug-03-11 02:21 PM |
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When you provide me with something that requires a response deeper than a one-liner... |
trotsky |
Aug-03-11 03:42 PM |
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I've provided eight links and some overview; you, on the other hand, merely sneer |
struggle4progress |
Aug-03-11 04:45 PM |
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I refer you to the post to which you just responded. n/t |
trotsky |
Aug-03-11 07:21 PM |
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the tired old "No True Scotsman" argument. |
provis99 |
Aug-04-11 10:01 PM |
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"Excommunication" means refusing to give the sacrament of communion: when, at any time |
struggle4progress |
Aug-05-11 04:41 AM |
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Um, it means a lot more than that. |
Goblinmonger |
Aug-05-11 08:53 AM |
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Code of Canon Law |
struggle4progress |
Aug-05-11 02:52 PM |
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What's your point, Googlemaster? That I was right? |
Goblinmonger |
Aug-05-11 03:29 PM |
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Brazil has had a sizable and vocal humanist/atheist community for years. |
humblebum |
Aug-01-11 08:35 PM |
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Brazil has a surprisingly strong Singularity community |
localroger |
Aug-01-11 08:40 PM |
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Looks like this Transhumanist should move to Brazil if the US continues going downhill. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-01-11 09:01 PM |
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Oh for fucks sake! Prove it or else you are a liar! |
cleanhippie |
Aug-01-11 09:08 PM |
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Uh? Well? I have shown much of this before, but here's a link. |
humblebum |
Aug-01-11 09:46 PM |
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Seriously? You feel that the Brazil posters are the same as those you linked to? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-02-11 01:00 AM |
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Extremely similar in both subject and tone. There are hundreds and hundreds of them. |
humblebum |
Aug-02-11 01:25 AM |
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While I strongly disagree about the similarity, you are not a liar. You actually believe they are |
cleanhippie |
Aug-02-11 08:40 AM |
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Same movement, repackaged. nt |
humblebum |
Aug-02-11 08:46 AM |
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Same movement? Where is the Communism? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-02-11 09:57 AM |
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Well, you are finally speaking some truth: |
humblebum |
Aug-02-11 11:11 AM |
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As usual, you digress. There are no similarities between this and the brazil atheists. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-03-11 08:28 AM |
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As usual, in a state of denial. |
humblebum |
Aug-03-11 09:32 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-03-11 09:35 AM |
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Yes, you are in a total state of denial. |
cleanhippie |
Aug-03-11 03:14 PM |
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Well, when atheism is clearly the subject of the poster or clearly |
humblebum |
Aug-03-11 04:03 PM |
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Yes, we know all of that. So why do you point to communist posters and say they are the same? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-03-11 04:23 PM |
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So where does it advertise communism on any of them. The atheists |
humblebum |
Aug-03-11 04:31 PM |
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So the Soviet Communists were strongly atheist |
LeftishBrit |
Aug-02-11 01:13 AM |
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Why do you compare apples to oranges. I'm talking atheist movements here, not Communism. |
humblebum |
Aug-02-11 01:32 AM |
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In what way are any of these messages hateful or bigoted? |
LeftishBrit |
Aug-02-11 01:53 AM |
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They are certainly bigoted in the fact that they are singling out religion |
humblebum |
Aug-02-11 02:05 AM |
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So if you don't mention atrocities committed by religous groups, is it OK to promote atheism? |
LeftishBrit |
Aug-02-11 02:35 AM |
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There are many wonderful, caring atheists around. You are free |
humblebum |
Aug-02-11 02:56 AM |
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I do not think that this group was preaching hatred at all... |
LeftishBrit |
Aug-02-11 08:45 AM |
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The group is not advertising atrocities with these billboards |
Meshuga |
Aug-02-11 10:57 PM |
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Then, they must be referring to Hitler because of his funny mustache. |
humblebum |
Aug-03-11 02:28 AM |
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Did you even read my post? |
Meshuga |
Aug-04-11 06:58 PM |
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You are? Who mentioned the USSR first? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-02-11 11:34 AM |
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Soviet atheism. |
CJvR |
Aug-04-11 03:13 PM |
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Yes, it was just a passing fad: |
humblebum |
Aug-04-11 08:07 PM |
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Thanks for acknowledging that. |
laconicsax |
Aug-04-11 08:21 PM |
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And then, of course, the fad was resurrected. |
humblebum |
Aug-04-11 09:22 PM |
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And again, it passed. |
laconicsax |
Aug-05-11 03:34 PM |
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Um? The actions continued well into the 1980's and the groups still |
humblebum |
Aug-05-11 03:44 PM |
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Uh huh, like I said. n/t |
laconicsax |
Aug-05-11 04:14 PM |
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Like you said, what? It has never really ended. nt |
humblebum |
Aug-05-11 04:46 PM |
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If you say so. n/t |
laconicsax |
Aug-05-11 06:31 PM |
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humblebum |
Aug-05-11 04:44 PM |
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... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-01-11 09:15 PM |
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Scary!!! |
laconicsax |
Aug-01-11 09:20 PM |
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If logic fails, throw your bible at them and scream "COMMIE!!!!" |
Taverner |
Aug-02-11 05:37 PM |
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STALIN!!! |
Iggo |
Aug-05-11 04:19 PM |
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K&R |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-01-11 09:27 PM |
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Awesome. I wish we could have those here. |
Taverner |
Aug-02-11 05:40 PM |
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Atheists Exist. |
Iggo |
Aug-05-11 04:18 PM |
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