Humanist_Activist
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Sat Jul-30-11 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #87 |
| 91. Love is an emotion every human and even many animals share... |
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why attach a label to it that only serves to divide? Love is love, there are different types, familial love, the love of friends, the love between lovers. Bonds so strong that people will risk death to protect each other because of it, and that's precisely why it should NOT be claimed as a value of any religion, but rather as a universal human emotion, which is precisely what it is.
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| -Can a Christian please list what are Christian values? |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 10:12 PM |
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Google is your friend ---> |
Petrushka |
Jul-29-11 10:15 PM |
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After watching the Christians join the Repukes for the past 31 years, I'd say.... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-29-11 10:16 PM |
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Really? I'm a Christian - disagree. |
emilyg |
Jul-29-11 10:25 PM |
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Maybe you're one of the handful I can count on one hand, that are not part of the fascists nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-29-11 10:26 PM |
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I was going to reply and |
emilyg |
Jul-29-11 10:49 PM |
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Really? |
demosincebirth |
Jul-29-11 10:50 PM |
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I'm with you. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 10:35 PM |
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thanks for the broad brush.. |
madrchsod |
Jul-29-11 10:38 PM |
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... |
RKP5637 |
Jul-29-11 10:25 PM |
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well, my sister is a staunch Bible believing Christian... |
grasswire |
Jul-29-11 10:25 PM |
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I'm sorry but |
Drale |
Jul-29-11 10:28 PM |
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I hung up on her. |
grasswire |
Jul-29-11 10:32 PM |
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Okay |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 10:30 PM |
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So you have to love your God more than you love your neighbor? |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 10:49 PM |
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Those voices you apparently hear in your head are not from God, my friend. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 10:52 PM |
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OK, how about a simple question, who do you value more, God or your fellow humans? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:00 PM |
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Without God, I would not have the calmness nor strength to tolerate many of our kind |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 11:06 PM |
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OK, so I'll put that down as avoiding the question. n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:16 PM |
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Put it down as whatever you like. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 11:30 PM |
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What filtering system? You didn't answer the question. |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:35 PM |
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Why so angry - just because I have a belief you don't? |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 11:47 PM |
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What attack mode? The fact that I don't give automatic deference to your beliefs... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:55 PM |
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LOL! There is deference and there is respect. Given you asked the question. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-30-11 12:00 AM |
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Respect has to be earned, and I don't automatically respect beliefs, I evaluate them depending... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 12:05 AM |
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Oh, lookie! The first dodge and attempt to make the non-believer seem like an angry person. |
cleanhippie |
Jul-30-11 08:55 PM |
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re-ask? |
deacon_sephiroth |
Aug-01-11 11:02 AM |
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Definitely ducking the question |
Silent3 |
Aug-01-11 11:19 AM |
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According to Jesus. there is no difference. n/t |
Thats my opinion |
Jul-29-11 11:22 PM |
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Of course there is, Jesus said anyone who values their family above him is not worthy of him... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:23 PM |
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These comprise the heart of Christian vaues.r/t |
Thats my opinion |
Jul-29-11 11:20 PM |
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Reread your post, so you are liberal because you fear hell? |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:44 PM |
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I fear nothing. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 11:51 PM |
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No anger, and I surely hope those values don't match mine... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 12:09 AM |
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New to being around liberals/progressives, aye? |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-30-11 12:13 AM |
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Motivations differ, that much is clear. n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 12:16 AM |
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Great post! |
JDPriestly |
Jul-30-11 12:34 AM |
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... |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-30-11 12:57 AM |
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They change by person. I would tell you mine, someone else theirs. Both would |
uppityperson |
Jul-29-11 10:31 PM |
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Neither Atheists nor Agnostics claim to have have "values" |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 12:20 AM |
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Agnostics and Atheists have no values? I think you are trying to put something |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 06:29 PM |
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Sorry, should clarify, there are no "Atheist values"... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 07:49 PM |
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What you might consider a "Christian value" is not necessarily what I might. |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 08:06 PM |
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Again, there are no "Atheist values", Humanist values sure, but please at least get the labels... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 08:13 PM |
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You miss the point. Values based on spirituality are subjective. |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 08:21 PM |
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The question is what type of values are based on spirituality... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 08:28 PM |
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Love is the basis of all true Christian values. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jul-29-11 10:34 PM |
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Really? Then list these values. n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 10:43 PM |
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Ruby the Liberal did an excellent job. |
pnwmom |
Jul-29-11 10:44 PM |
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Ha! Great minds. Timing. All that. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 10:46 PM |
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I did. Explicitly. Post #8. Above you ^ |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 10:45 PM |
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Can an American tell you what are American values? |
Swede |
Jul-29-11 10:40 PM |
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Simple enough, read the New Testament. |
demosincebirth |
Jul-29-11 10:52 PM |
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Do you really want me to start listing examples from the New Testament? |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:26 PM |
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If you don't beleive in something, why do you know |
demosincebirth |
Jul-29-11 11:40 PM |
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Because I was studying to go into seminary after confirmation, that's why... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 12:02 AM |
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Yet this leads you to question Christian values on a liberal message board? |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-30-11 12:12 AM |
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Why is asking the question such an affront? |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 12:18 AM |
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Jul-30-11 12:32 AM |
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I feel sorry for you. Don't bother to answer. |
demosincebirth |
Jul-30-11 03:03 PM |
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If this is true, then you should know that there is no "Christian values" but a whole lot of differi |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 06:35 PM |
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I was never taught to take the Bible literally true, I was Catholic... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 07:45 PM |
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There are lessons which are positive also. I am sorry you chose to focus only the the bad ones |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 08:03 PM |
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But that's the point, the Bible shows Yahweh as both good and evil... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 08:06 PM |
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And you throw the whole thing out because you have focused on the bad ones. |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 08:11 PM |
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No, I wouldn't throw it out, it should be treated no differently than Homer's stories... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 08:20 PM |
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You don't think there are "Christian values" yet this thread asks Christians to list them. |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 08:24 PM |
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No, I started this thread, because some Christians on this board apparently... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 08:31 PM |
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"love" is a Christian value, depending on the definition of "love" and just because |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 08:41 PM |
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Love is an emotion every human and even many animals share... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 09:06 PM |
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Many people base their spiritual beliefs on love. It is a universal human emotion. |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 09:21 PM |
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Are you seriously claiming that religion doesn't divide? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 09:51 PM |
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Whoosh! |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 11:02 PM |
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How can there be goalposts when its so subjective that people can make shit up as they go along? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-31-11 07:56 AM |
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Love is an emotion, not a value. |
darkstar3 |
Jul-30-11 11:07 PM |
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Since the time of Abraham, the image of G-d has appeared in human form. |
struggle4progress |
Jul-29-11 10:55 PM |
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+1 |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 11:07 PM |
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Look, I can quote the Bible too! |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:22 PM |
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A magnificent quotation. |
Thats my opinion |
Jul-29-11 11:29 PM |
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If it were treated as any other literature, I would agree, but too many people... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:32 PM |
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"context"; the ultimate believer's excuse. |
provis99 |
Jul-29-11 11:48 PM |
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Tell us, o Well Connected One, in which way the context changes the meaning of that verse. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jul-30-11 04:02 AM |
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I suppose you must read according to your understanding, as I must read according to mine -- |
struggle4progress |
Jul-29-11 11:43 PM |
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So basically unbelievers aren't family, got it. |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:46 PM |
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Again, you must read according to your understanding, and I according to mine. |
struggle4progress |
Jul-29-11 11:52 PM |
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What does that even mean? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 11:56 PM |
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It means you're over your head, kimosabe. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-30-11 12:07 AM |
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Actually no, it seems that the poster is saying they believe the way they believe... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 12:14 AM |
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I can see that you are. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-30-11 12:22 AM |
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Actually I already did, its really fascinating how... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 12:29 AM |
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Jul-30-11 12:36 AM |
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Sorry, perhaps I should have said terrorist who happened to be Christian... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 12:40 AM |
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If Osama Bin Laden was a Muslim Terrorist, then the Norway killer is a Christian Terrorist. |
cleanhippie |
Jul-30-11 09:02 PM |
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You began the thread asking what the values were, not why I might choose to adopt those values. |
struggle4progress |
Jul-30-11 12:42 AM |
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I don't see why I should be either happy or unhappy... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 12:51 AM |
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Thank you for continuing to post. It clarifies how you are unable to understand |
uppityperson |
Jul-30-11 06:39 PM |
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Jul-30-11 08:59 PM |
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Well |
Old Codger |
Jul-29-11 11:48 PM |
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Humanist_Activist re# post 47 See above ^ |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-30-11 12:03 AM |
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christianity has a value system |
tiny elvis |
Jul-31-11 02:59 AM |
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Finally, a real answer. Took long enough. n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-31-11 08:58 AM |
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Oh you know, nebulous things that are everything to everybody... |
Taverner |
Aug-01-11 04:46 PM |
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You win one thread. |
darkstar3 |
Aug-01-11 08:08 PM |
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