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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 12:12 AM
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55. Yet this leads you to question Christian values on a liberal message board?
Why not go bother the RW segment of the faith?

We are very secure in our beliefs here (and the rights of others in theirs).
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  -Can a Christian please list what are Christian values? Humanist_Activist  Jul-29-11 10:12 PM   #0 
  - Google is your friend --->  Petrushka   Jul-29-11 10:15 PM   #1 
  - After watching the Christians join the Repukes for the past 31 years, I'd say....  Sarah Ibarruri   Jul-29-11 10:16 PM   #2 
  - Really? I'm a Christian - disagree.  emilyg   Jul-29-11 10:25 PM   #5 
  - Maybe you're one of the handful I can count on one hand, that are not part of the fascists nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jul-29-11 10:26 PM   #6 
  - I was going to reply and  emilyg   Jul-29-11 10:49 PM   #20 
  - Really?  demosincebirth   Jul-29-11 10:50 PM   #21 
  - I'm with you.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 10:35 PM   #12 
  - thanks for the broad brush..  madrchsod   Jul-29-11 10:38 PM   #13 
  - ...  RKP5637   Jul-29-11 10:25 PM   #3 
  - well, my sister is a staunch Bible believing Christian...  grasswire   Jul-29-11 10:25 PM   #4 
  - I'm sorry but  Drale   Jul-29-11 10:28 PM   #7 
     - I hung up on her.  grasswire   Jul-29-11 10:32 PM   #10 
  - Okay  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 10:30 PM   #8 
  - So you have to love your God more than you love your neighbor?  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 10:49 PM   #19 
  - Those voices you apparently hear in your head are not from God, my friend.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 10:52 PM   #22 
     - OK, how about a simple question, who do you value more, God or your fellow humans? n/t  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:00 PM   #25 
        - Without God, I would not have the calmness nor strength to tolerate many of our kind  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 11:06 PM   #26 
        - OK, so I'll put that down as avoiding the question. n/t  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:16 PM   #28 
        - Put it down as whatever you like.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 11:30 PM   #35 
           - What filtering system? You didn't answer the question.  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:35 PM   #37 
              - Why so angry - just because I have a belief you don't?  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 11:47 PM   #42 
                 - What attack mode? The fact that I don't give automatic deference to your beliefs...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:55 PM   #47 
                 - LOL! There is deference and there is respect. Given you asked the question.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-30-11 12:00 AM   #49 
                    - Respect has to be earned, and I don't automatically respect beliefs, I evaluate them depending...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 12:05 AM   #52 
                 - Oh, lookie! The first dodge and attempt to make the non-believer seem like an angry person.  cleanhippie   Jul-30-11 08:55 PM   #88 
                 - re-ask?  deacon_sephiroth   Aug-01-11 11:02 AM   #99 
        - Definitely ducking the question  Silent3   Aug-01-11 11:19 AM   #100 
        - According to Jesus. there is no difference. n/t  Thats my opinion   Jul-29-11 11:22 PM   #30 
           - Of course there is, Jesus said anyone who values their family above him is not worthy of him...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:23 PM   #32 
  - These comprise the heart of Christian vaues.r/t  Thats my opinion   Jul-29-11 11:20 PM   #29 
  - Reread your post, so you are liberal because you fear hell?  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:44 PM   #40 
  - I fear nothing.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 11:51 PM   #45 
     - No anger, and I surely hope those values don't match mine...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 12:09 AM   #54 
        - New to being around liberals/progressives, aye?  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-30-11 12:13 AM   #56 
           - Motivations differ, that much is clear. n/t  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 12:16 AM   #58 
  - Great post!  JDPriestly   Jul-30-11 12:34 AM   #64 
     - ...  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-30-11 12:57 AM   #69 
  - They change by person. I would tell you mine, someone else theirs. Both would  uppityperson   Jul-29-11 10:31 PM   #9 
  - Neither Atheists nor Agnostics claim to have have "values"  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 12:20 AM   #60 
     - Agnostics and Atheists have no values? I think you are trying to put something  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 06:29 PM   #72 
        - Sorry, should clarify, there are no "Atheist values"...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 07:49 PM   #76 
           - What you might consider a "Christian value" is not necessarily what I might.  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 08:06 PM   #79 
              - Again, there are no "Atheist values", Humanist values sure, but please at least get the labels...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 08:13 PM   #81 
                 - You miss the point. Values based on spirituality are subjective.  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 08:21 PM   #83 
                    - The question is what type of values are based on spirituality...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 08:28 PM   #85 
  - Love is the basis of all true Christian values. n/t  pnwmom   Jul-29-11 10:34 PM   #11 
  - Really? Then list these values. n/t  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 10:43 PM   #15 
     - Ruby the Liberal did an excellent job.  pnwmom   Jul-29-11 10:44 PM   #16 
     - Ha! Great minds. Timing. All that.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 10:46 PM   #18 
     - I did. Explicitly. Post #8. Above you ^  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 10:45 PM   #17 
  - Can an American tell you what are American values?  Swede   Jul-29-11 10:40 PM   #14 
  - Simple enough, read the New Testament.  demosincebirth   Jul-29-11 10:52 PM   #23 
  - Do you really want me to start listing examples from the New Testament?  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:26 PM   #33 
     - If you don't beleive in something, why do you know  demosincebirth   Jul-29-11 11:40 PM   #38 
        - Because I was studying to go into seminary after confirmation, that's why...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 12:02 AM   #50 
           - Yet this leads you to question Christian values on a liberal message board?  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-30-11 12:12 AM   #55 
           - Why is asking the question such an affront?  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 12:18 AM   #59 
              - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-30-11 12:32 AM   #63 
           - I feel sorry for you. Don't bother to answer.  demosincebirth   Jul-30-11 03:03 PM   #71 
           - If this is true, then you should know that there is no "Christian values" but a whole lot of differi  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 06:35 PM   #73 
              - I was never taught to take the Bible literally true, I was Catholic...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 07:45 PM   #75 
                 - There are lessons which are positive also. I am sorry you chose to focus only the the bad ones  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 08:03 PM   #77 
                    - But that's the point, the Bible shows Yahweh as both good and evil...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 08:06 PM   #78 
                       - And you throw the whole thing out because you have focused on the bad ones.  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 08:11 PM   #80 
                          - No, I wouldn't throw it out, it should be treated no differently than Homer's stories...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 08:20 PM   #82 
                             - You don't think there are "Christian values" yet this thread asks Christians to list them.  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 08:24 PM   #84 
                             - No, I started this thread, because some Christians on this board apparently...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 08:31 PM   #86 
                             - "love" is a Christian value, depending on the definition of "love" and just because  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 08:41 PM   #87 
                                - Love is an emotion every human and even many animals share...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 09:06 PM   #91 
                                - Many people base their spiritual beliefs on love. It is a universal human emotion.  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 09:21 PM   #92 
                                   - Are you seriously claiming that religion doesn't divide? n/t  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 09:51 PM   #93 
                                      - Whoosh!  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 11:02 PM   #94 
                                         - How can there be goalposts when its so subjective that people can make shit up as they go along? n/t  Humanist_Activist   Jul-31-11 07:56 AM   #97 
                                - Love is an emotion, not a value.  darkstar3   Jul-30-11 11:07 PM   #95 
  - Since the time of Abraham, the image of G-d has appeared in human form.  struggle4progress   Jul-29-11 10:55 PM   #24 
  - +1  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 11:07 PM   #27 
  - Look, I can quote the Bible too!  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:22 PM   #31 
     - A magnificent quotation.  Thats my opinion   Jul-29-11 11:29 PM   #34 
     - If it were treated as any other literature, I would agree, but too many people...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:32 PM   #36 
     - "context"; the ultimate believer's excuse.  provis99   Jul-29-11 11:48 PM   #44 
     - Tell us, o Well Connected One, in which way the context changes the meaning of that verse.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-30-11 04:02 AM   #70 
     - I suppose you must read according to your understanding, as I must read according to mine --  struggle4progress   Jul-29-11 11:43 PM   #39 
        - So basically unbelievers aren't family, got it.  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:46 PM   #41 
           - Again, you must read according to your understanding, and I according to mine.  struggle4progress   Jul-29-11 11:52 PM   #46 
              - What does that even mean? n/t  Humanist_Activist   Jul-29-11 11:56 PM   #48 
                 - It means you're over your head, kimosabe.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-30-11 12:07 AM   #53 
                    - Actually no, it seems that the poster is saying they believe the way they believe...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 12:14 AM   #57 
                    - I can see that you are.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-30-11 12:22 AM   #61 
                    - Actually I already did, its really fascinating how...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 12:29 AM   #62 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-30-11 12:36 AM   #65 
                          - Sorry, perhaps I should have said terrorist who happened to be Christian...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 12:40 AM   #66 
                             - If Osama Bin Laden was a Muslim Terrorist, then the Norway killer is a Christian Terrorist.  cleanhippie   Jul-30-11 09:02 PM   #90 
                    - You began the thread asking what the values were, not why I might choose to adopt those values.  struggle4progress   Jul-30-11 12:42 AM   #67 
                    - I don't see why I should be either happy or unhappy...  Humanist_Activist   Jul-30-11 12:51 AM   #68 
                    - Thank you for continuing to post. It clarifies how you are unable to understand  uppityperson   Jul-30-11 06:39 PM   #74 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-30-11 08:59 PM   #89 
  - Well  Old Codger   Jul-29-11 11:48 PM   #43 
  - Humanist_Activist re# post 47 See above ^  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-30-11 12:03 AM   #51 
  - christianity has a value system  tiny elvis   Jul-31-11 02:59 AM   #96 
  - Finally, a real answer. Took long enough. n/t  Humanist_Activist   Jul-31-11 08:58 AM   #98 
  - Oh you know, nebulous things that are everything to everybody...  Taverner   Aug-01-11 04:46 PM   #101 
     - You win one thread.  darkstar3   Aug-01-11 08:08 PM   #102 
 

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