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Fri Aug-12-11 06:54 PM
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| 127. But he DOES say he is a christian. Do you agree with him? |
| -OK - if Anders Breivik WAS NOT a "Real Christian," then what was he? |
Taverner |
Jul-29-11 01:25 PM |
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And keep in mind, if the answer is 'fake Christian' you have do define it then... |
Taverner |
Jul-29-11 01:25 PM |
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I don't want to give away my vote |
Kalidurga |
Jul-29-11 01:28 PM |
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He followed Republican Jeezus....hallelujah! |
rfranklin |
Jul-29-11 01:29 PM |
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a "self-identified" Christian, of course... |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 01:30 PM |
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What makes you a Martian is being from Mars. |
trotsky |
Jul-29-11 01:33 PM |
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Well said. nt |
rrneck |
Jul-29-11 01:38 PM |
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No.. that makes you a "self-identified Christian" |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 02:07 PM |
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Can you read minds? |
trotsky |
Jul-29-11 02:30 PM |
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I identify him as a self-identified Christian which respectfully |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 02:41 PM |
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I do not appreciate your unfounded accusations. |
trotsky |
Jul-29-11 03:02 PM |
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I understand.. |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 03:07 PM |
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I feel no need to justify that which I am not guilty of. |
trotsky |
Jul-29-11 03:09 PM |
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I won't engage... |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 03:16 PM |
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These are interesting new definitions for common words. |
trotsky |
Jul-29-11 03:27 PM |
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Is in intolerance and disdain when you claim such evil |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 03:48 PM |
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"those acts are not consistent with the beliefs and teachings of that religion or philosophy" |
trotsky |
Jul-29-11 04:06 PM |
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The basic tenets and beliefs are not a mystery despite your |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 04:46 PM |
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I am disappointed that ultimately you chose to renew your attack on me |
trotsky |
Jul-29-11 05:16 PM |
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I did not say that Gandhi was a Christian. I said he was influenced |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 05:26 PM |
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... |
trotsky |
Jul-30-11 09:31 AM |
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Yet you show disdain and intolerance |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-29-11 04:40 PM |
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I show disdain for the intolerance that would seek to paint all |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 04:59 PM |
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So you are admittinghat |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-29-11 05:10 PM |
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I said nothing of the kind... |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 05:17 PM |
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Welcome to the bizarre world of " I don't care what you say |
Leontius |
Jul-29-11 05:59 PM |
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Yup... |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 06:18 PM |
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Get over yourself. |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-30-11 10:06 PM |
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But that's exactly what you imply. |
trotsky |
Jul-30-11 09:35 AM |
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Of course you did. |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-30-11 10:05 PM |
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and if you self-identify as bald, you are bald? |
provis99 |
Jul-30-11 10:11 PM |
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Bald has a clear definition. |
darkstar3 |
Jul-30-11 10:15 PM |
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I disagree that bald is clear. |
provis99 |
Jul-30-11 10:19 PM |
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Balding vs. bald. I am not responsible, and neither are you, for the misuse of language. |
darkstar3 |
Jul-30-11 10:31 PM |
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This is the same argument used by those who |
dgibby |
Jul-29-11 02:20 PM |
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I don't follow... |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 02:23 PM |
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Obama self-identifies as a Christian, |
dgibby |
Jul-29-11 02:36 PM |
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My argument is that someone who self-identifies... |
hlthe2b |
Jul-29-11 02:47 PM |
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What actions by the terrorist are the antithesis of Christian tenets? |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-31-11 10:19 AM |
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I voted fake christian... |
tortoise1956 |
Jul-29-11 01:51 PM |
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I can only think of one who killed for Atheism |
Taverner |
Jul-29-11 01:59 PM |
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Interesting. |
Deep13 |
Jul-29-11 02:53 PM |
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LOL he gives all of us non-believers a bad name |
Taverner |
Jul-29-11 04:35 PM |
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Christianist. nt |
CJCRANE |
Jul-29-11 02:13 PM |
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He professed a belief in Jesus Christ, ergo, he was a Christian. |
Deep13 |
Jul-29-11 02:46 PM |
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Yup nt |
Taverner |
Jul-29-11 04:36 PM |
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The question remains, did he agree? |
Leontius |
Jul-29-11 06:02 PM |
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Well, I did not actually read his book. |
Deep13 |
Jul-29-11 06:05 PM |
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Me either so both our " best guess" can only be " probably some |
Leontius |
Jul-29-11 07:16 PM |
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Yeah, it's partly guesswork, or mostly guesswork if we consider how reliable media reports are. nt |
Deep13 |
Jul-30-11 09:45 PM |
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It's also a problem with the definitions of 'Christian' |
Leontius |
Jul-30-11 10:24 PM |
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That makes claims that so-and-so is not a real one susceptible... |
Deep13 |
Jul-31-11 08:00 AM |
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It depends...did he put sugar on his porridge? |
laconicsax |
Jul-29-11 03:44 PM |
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If he actually was a Christian he wasn't familiar with the main lessons of ... |
spin |
Jul-29-11 04:21 PM |
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I think the proper technical description of him is "whackadoodle" |
struggle4progress |
Jul-29-11 05:12 PM |
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Why is he not a 'real Christian' what bedrock tenets of Christianity |
Leontius |
Jul-29-11 05:13 PM |
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It seems that some people think that pointing that out is an attack on all Christians. |
laconicsax |
Jul-29-11 05:46 PM |
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Well given the infantile refrain from some that ALL Christians are |
Leontius |
Jul-29-11 08:11 PM |
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Link? |
darkstar3 |
Jul-29-11 10:48 PM |
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I doubt he believes in any kind of god other than white superiority. |
rug |
Jul-29-11 05:57 PM |
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Why is that? |
laconicsax |
Jul-29-11 06:04 PM |
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Pretty much. |
rug |
Jul-29-11 06:09 PM |
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So most Europeans of the past 250 or more years were a type of atheist? |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 06:53 PM |
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Closer to that than Christianity. |
rug |
Jul-29-11 07:10 PM |
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Jul-29-11 07:18 PM |
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You are making a distinction where none exists, all religion is political... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 07:25 PM |
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You are making an assertion broader than the evidence. |
rug |
Jul-29-11 07:31 PM |
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Doesn't that statement pretty much sum up all religion? |
cleanhippie |
Jul-29-11 07:33 PM |
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No. Feel free to pm her about your shared belief. |
rug |
Jul-29-11 07:37 PM |
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Sure it does. Thats why one needs faith - there is no supporting evidence. |
cleanhippie |
Jul-29-11 07:41 PM |
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"all religion is political". |
rug |
Jul-29-11 07:43 PM |
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Maybe I missed where I made that claim. Can you point it out? |
cleanhippie |
Jul-29-11 07:44 PM |
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"Doesn't that statement pretty much sum up all religion?" |
rug |
Jul-29-11 07:47 PM |
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Ahhh, sorry. I was referring to YOUR statement. |
cleanhippie |
Jul-29-11 09:18 PM |
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I did, but then again, I treat religion no differently than any other social system of humanity... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 07:47 PM |
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Really? All human social constructs are political in various different ways... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 07:44 PM |
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you define religion as a human social contruct. Religion does not. |
rug |
Jul-29-11 07:49 PM |
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...taking place at the same time as, and often in support of, political ones. |
darkstar3 |
Jul-29-11 07:53 PM |
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Really? Name one. n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 07:59 PM |
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I'll name fourteen. |
rug |
Jul-30-11 09:52 AM |
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Except for the last one, none of those are religious in nature... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-30-11 04:36 PM |
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Given the seven corporal and spiritual acts of mercy have been examined for centuries, I think |
rug |
Jul-31-11 06:44 AM |
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What puzzlement? n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-31-11 07:20 AM |
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They must not have been examined very deeply, while some of them are good(and obvious)... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-31-11 07:50 AM |
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Those are all religious constructs? |
cleanhippie |
Jul-30-11 04:40 PM |
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Jul-30-11 05:02 PM |
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Well, I hope that rug would have the integrity to answer that. |
cleanhippie |
Jul-30-11 08:40 PM |
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Nice, you're calling me a bigot. That didn't take long. |
rug |
Jul-31-11 06:46 AM |
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The last seven are, |
rug |
Jul-31-11 06:44 AM |
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No they are not. They are found in ideologies, both religious and non, worldwide. |
darkstar3 |
Jul-31-11 03:46 PM |
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That'll be news to the KKK, which considers itself a Christian organization. |
darkstar3 |
Jul-29-11 06:54 PM |
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Jul-29-11 07:12 PM |
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The OT is pretty much littered with race or ethnic-based genocide. |
Deep13 |
Jul-29-11 07:02 PM |
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And this guy seems enamored with Norse mythology. I wouldn't call him a pagan. |
rug |
Jul-29-11 07:13 PM |
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If he's so enamoured, maybe he is a pagan. |
Deep13 |
Jul-29-11 07:19 PM |
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I think a pagan would disagree with you. |
rug |
Jul-29-11 07:22 PM |
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Actually most wouldn't, Asatru(Norse God believers) openly acknowledge... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 07:30 PM |
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And they would be correct, notwithstanding the clumsy invocation of NTS. |
rug |
Jul-29-11 07:33 PM |
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But that's the point, they wouldn't be using the fallacy in the first place... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-29-11 07:42 PM |
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Much as I hate to leave this, I'm off to see Cowboys and Aliens with my kids. |
rug |
Jul-29-11 07:56 PM |
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Will you post a review? I want to see that. |
cleanhippie |
Jul-30-11 04:41 PM |
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A great cowboy movie, not so great aliens movie. |
rug |
Jul-31-11 06:51 AM |
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I guess I will see it. |
cleanhippie |
Jul-31-11 11:19 AM |
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"automatic moral superiority due solely to their religion like most Christians do" |
trotsky |
Jul-30-11 09:47 AM |
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LOL, well yeah. |
Deep13 |
Jul-30-11 09:43 PM |
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No True Scotsman logical fallacy nt |
_ed_ |
Aug-08-11 12:01 PM |
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Your poll accepts the premise. I don't. |
darkstar3 |
Jul-29-11 07:07 PM |
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Any christian can be hateful or kind. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jul-29-11 08:18 PM |
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Can you tell where you bought that comic book |
Leontius |
Jul-29-11 08:58 PM |
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Isn't this in your bible? |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jul-30-11 02:57 PM |
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Very nice. Now let's see what our friend here has to say in it's defense. |
cleanhippie |
Jul-30-11 04:45 PM |
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Mt 7:6 |
Leontius |
Jul-30-11 05:51 PM |
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Wait, what? Did you just ignore ALL of those bible quotes and instead reply with a bible quote? |
cleanhippie |
Jul-30-11 08:44 PM |
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Objection, irrelevant and immaterial. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jul-30-11 09:56 PM |
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oh, game, set, and match. Take that, atheists! |
provis99 |
Jul-30-11 10:08 PM |
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Hilarious |
_ed_ |
Aug-08-11 12:05 PM |
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Breivik's own answer to the question: |
okasha |
Jul-30-11 09:50 AM |
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And I'm positive that Mathew N. Schmalz, Professor of Religious Studies |
trotsky |
Jul-30-11 03:34 PM |
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Irrelevant |
okasha |
Jul-30-11 06:01 PM |
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Relevant. |
trotsky |
Jul-31-11 09:44 AM |
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He's written 1500+ pages of dreck, explaining his anti-Islamic views, describing the paramilitary |
struggle4progress |
Jul-30-11 03:45 PM |
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So, IOW, are you saying that he is NOT a real christian? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-12-11 06:53 PM |
#126 |
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He wasn't a True Scotsman! n/t |
backscatter712 |
Jul-31-11 12:50 PM |
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I could see the No True Scotsman a mile away |
sakabatou |
Aug-08-11 12:20 PM |
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I haven't voted ... |
Nihil |
Aug-12-11 11:50 AM |
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He wasn't a true Norwegian |
Meshuga |
Aug-12-11 12:51 PM |
#124 |
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He said he wasn't a Nazi. But he sure spent a lot of time on the Swesish Nazis' website |
struggle4progress |
Aug-12-11 03:32 PM |
#125 |
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But he DOES say he is a christian. Do you agree with him? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-12-11 06:54 PM |
#127 |
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