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Sat Jul-23-11 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #32 |
| 137. No one to speak of 'worships Atheism' |
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There are people who are prejudiced against religious people. It is different.
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| -Atheism versus New Atheism |
hyphenate |
Jul-21-11 12:22 AM |
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why should I have to respect someone's delusions? |
Doctor Hurt |
Jul-21-11 12:25 AM |
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+100 |
Taverner |
Jul-21-11 12:28 AM |
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For the same reason they need to respect your delusions |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-21-11 12:55 AM |
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I don't want my delusions respected. |
trotsky |
Jul-21-11 07:03 AM |
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You can respect them at the same time they are challenged |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-21-11 01:52 PM |
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Again, I do not demand respect for my delusions, |
trotsky |
Jul-21-11 02:37 PM |
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I don't care if they respect me. |
Doctor Hurt |
Jul-21-11 09:32 AM |
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So someone will respect your delusions enough to leave you alone. |
Kurmudgeon |
Jul-21-11 08:25 AM |
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I enjoy critical thinking and want my thoughts challenged. |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-21-11 08:29 AM |
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Nice cartoon downthread. |
rug |
Jul-21-11 08:46 AM |
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You have nailed it. nt |
Thats my opinion |
Jul-21-11 11:10 AM |
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that is what they said about Galileo nt |
Thats my opinion |
Jul-21-11 11:08 AM |
#39 |
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Who said that about Galileo? |
skepticscott |
Jul-21-11 05:22 PM |
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i'm an atheist and i agree. |
DesertFlower |
Jul-21-11 12:49 AM |
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Thank you! Glad my opinion was not for naught! eom |
hyphenate |
Jul-21-11 05:39 PM |
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You're an accommodationist. |
stopbush |
Jul-21-11 01:48 AM |
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So you refuse to accomodate the religious because they refuse to accomodate you? |
Speck Tater |
Jul-21-11 03:18 AM |
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That's one reason I kind of like the "New Atheists." |
LAGC |
Jul-21-11 08:58 AM |
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I refuse to accomodate religion because it is wrong. |
Deep13 |
Jul-21-11 09:13 AM |
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So what does the God of Atheism look like? Is he White? Portly? |
A Simple Game |
Jul-21-11 10:00 AM |
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You are completely, 100% dead wrong. |
Deep13 |
Jul-21-11 10:34 AM |
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I'm sorry, I may have made this more complicated than it needs to be. |
A Simple Game |
Jul-21-11 10:48 AM |
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And this is where you are in error, atheism isn't a belief system, its the lack of belief in a... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-21-11 12:28 PM |
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Please read the posts that I was responding to. |
A Simple Game |
Jul-21-11 10:20 PM |
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I don't believe in anything with 100% certainty, therein lies foolishness... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-22-11 07:06 PM |
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Oh that crap again |
dmallind |
Jul-21-11 12:32 PM |
#48 |
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You know, I'd have far less of a problem with people criticizing my beliefs if they were actually... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-21-11 12:44 PM |
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Congratulations on being rich, please pay more taxes. |
A Simple Game |
Jul-21-11 10:27 PM |
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Wow what? Wow you finally understand what atheism means? |
dmallind |
Jul-22-11 08:29 AM |
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Let's just leave it at Wow. n/t |
A Simple Game |
Jul-22-11 04:32 PM |
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The default logical position is that there is no God. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jul-21-11 03:10 PM |
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There is no God! You know you are in the minority, don't you? |
A Simple Game |
Jul-21-11 11:00 PM |
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Just because millions believe something does not make it true. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jul-22-11 12:57 AM |
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First of all let me thank you for an informative and thoughtful post. |
A Simple Game |
Jul-22-11 09:12 AM |
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How can you claim to be tolerant while saying that most of the religious people... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-21-11 10:34 AM |
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I judge no ones sincerity. |
A Simple Game |
Jul-21-11 11:23 AM |
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In 1200(B.C E. or C.E.?, assuming C.E.) I would have staked on the world being round... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-21-11 12:25 PM |
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So the world was round in 1200. Good for you. |
A Simple Game |
Jul-21-11 10:04 PM |
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Science and religion are completely different. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jul-22-11 01:08 AM |
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I am not a scientist. If I gave that impression, I am sorry. |
A Simple Game |
Jul-22-11 09:34 AM |
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Now this post shows you really don't know what science is at all... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-22-11 05:49 PM |
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You seem to have a comprehension problem. |
A Simple Game |
Jul-22-11 08:45 PM |
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No, you have a writing comprehension problem... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-23-11 12:17 PM |
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Maybe this will help. |
A Simple Game |
Jul-23-11 04:17 PM |
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Has anyone ever proven, "you can't prove a negative?" |
immoderate |
Jul-21-11 10:47 PM |
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Yes, its impossible to do so without playing useless semantic games... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-22-11 05:54 PM |
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No one to speak of 'worships Atheism' |
LeftishBrit |
Jul-23-11 04:47 PM |
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It was a struggle, but I found one. Pete's friend on myspace: |
dimbear |
Jul-23-11 05:19 PM |
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And as Americans we all have the right to be obnoxious and overbearing. |
Speck Tater |
Jul-21-11 12:07 PM |
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Speak for yourself. |
Deep13 |
Jul-21-11 01:08 PM |
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You sure have a lot of faith in your ideas. |
Speck Tater |
Jul-21-11 04:13 PM |
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Hogwash and intellectual cowardice |
skepticscott |
Jul-22-11 03:32 PM |
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Well said, Speck Tater |
tortoise1956 |
Jul-23-11 11:19 PM |
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I agree--that's my point |
hyphenate |
Jul-22-11 08:53 PM |
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+1 |
Deep13 |
Jul-21-11 09:06 AM |
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too bad that you seem stuck in a view of religion that is dying a slow deserved death. |
Thats my opinion |
Jul-21-11 11:15 AM |
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You keep claiming this when all surveys show US believers are overwhelmingly stuck in that same view |
dmallind |
Jul-21-11 12:43 PM |
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And almost half believe we live in the "end times". n/t |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-21-11 12:50 PM |
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Because that's what they have to tell themselves. |
trotsky |
Jul-21-11 04:21 PM |
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I never said it was the norm |
Thats my opinion |
Jul-21-11 07:51 PM |
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Good - and trust me its success will be inversely proportional to "atheist fundamentalism". nt |
dmallind |
Jul-21-11 10:14 PM |
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A strange thing to hear coming from someone |
skepticscott |
Jul-21-11 05:32 PM |
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sorry,but you are just inaccurate. |
Thats my opinion |
Jul-21-11 07:54 PM |
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Oh, indeed? Here are some of your characterizations |
skepticscott |
Jul-21-11 08:37 PM |
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No response, eh? |
skepticscott |
Jul-23-11 04:40 PM |
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Exactly who is trying "to disarm people of their inherent right to believe... |
Silent3 |
Jul-21-11 02:14 AM |
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Right-- that is true of any point of view, including yours nt |
Thats my opinion |
Jul-21-11 11:17 AM |
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Yes, so? |
Silent3 |
Jul-21-11 02:49 PM |
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Let's get Hitchens to stop going door to door leaving tracts. |
dimbear |
Jul-21-11 03:45 AM |
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Yeah, and he should stop extorting people every week for tithes and... |
Deep13 |
Jul-21-11 09:14 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-21-11 04:49 AM |
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Relgiousity is pervasive. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-21-11 06:22 AM |
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Have you actually read any of the "New Atheists"? |
trotsky |
Jul-21-11 07:01 AM |
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I've never read them either, not really interested to be honest... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Yep, I've only read The God Delusion. |
trotsky |
Jul-21-11 01:25 PM |
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That is the funny thing, except for perhaps Christopher Hitchens, all of the rest... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-21-11 01:30 PM |
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Accurate and well said. |
rug |
Jul-21-11 07:29 AM |
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Yeah and they are so dangerous! |
TZ |
Jul-21-11 08:12 AM |
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Athiest fundies, every bit as dangerous as any other kind of fundie. |
Kurmudgeon |
Jul-21-11 08:26 AM |
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Nice RW talking point. |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-21-11 08:31 AM |
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Do you prefer the term "fanattic atheist?" |
okasha |
Jul-21-11 08:47 AM |
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I don't think that's a word. |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-21-11 08:54 AM |
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LOL--well, there are a few Mrs. Rochesters in the mix., blowing hot air. |
okasha |
Jul-21-11 09:24 AM |
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There you go confusing |
skepticscott |
Jul-21-11 05:39 PM |
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Oh, and it's time for this again: |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-21-11 08:33 AM |
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Get back to me when atheists try to slit the throats of their children because the rapture isn't... |
Humanist_Activist |
Jul-21-11 11:59 AM |
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Yes! Just as dangerous. |
Evoman |
Jul-21-11 03:43 PM |
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Yep, just look at these atheists fundies |
skepticscott |
Jul-24-11 08:28 PM |
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Did it ever occur to you that more aggressive atheism is just...necessary? |
dmallind |
Jul-21-11 09:10 AM |
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It's probably not much of an exaggeration to say |
skepticscott |
Jul-21-11 05:43 PM |
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I wrote a response to this several years ago... |
Deep13 |
Jul-21-11 09:17 AM |
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Bingo. n/t |
trotsky |
Jul-21-11 10:55 AM |
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Seems like New Atheism is more a civil rights movement than anything else |
starroute |
Jul-21-11 09:59 AM |
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Oh for the love of Murphy! |
tortoise1956 |
Jul-23-11 11:31 PM |
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We're here, we're queer. We don't think the way you do. |
PassingFair |
Jul-21-11 10:29 AM |
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Unless you are queer, please don't attempt to co-opt an LGBT slogan. |
okasha |
Jul-21-11 12:36 PM |
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Who are you, WordCop? |
PassingFair |
Jul-21-11 12:45 PM |
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I'm a queer woman. |
okasha |
Jul-21-11 01:04 PM |
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You don't own words, or slogans. |
PassingFair |
Jul-21-11 01:08 PM |
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You lack respect for those who've put their lives on the line |
okasha |
Jul-21-11 02:13 PM |
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You don't seem to mind using offensive and ridiculous terms like "fundamentalist atheist".... |
PassingFair |
Jul-21-11 02:16 PM |
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You have no fucking clue how ironic your choice to take offense at those words is, do you? |
darkstar3 |
Jul-21-11 07:59 PM |
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Yes - after all gays and queers never co-opted any existing words! |
dmallind |
Jul-21-11 03:41 PM |
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What about a positive new theism? |
Thats my opinion |
Jul-21-11 11:06 AM |
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"...the kind of religion these new atheists reject." is any religion that |
humblebum |
Jul-21-11 01:58 PM |
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Atheism tolerant, New Atheism intolerant. Huge difference. |
humblebum |
Jul-21-11 01:40 PM |
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Old Atheism silent; New Atheism not silent. |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-21-11 03:14 PM |
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+1 |
PassingFair |
Jul-21-11 03:32 PM |
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+10000 |
Taverner |
Jul-21-11 04:18 PM |
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Depends on what you mean by Old atheism. If you are |
humblebum |
Jul-21-11 04:37 PM |
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You're kidding, right? |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-21-11 06:39 PM |
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Yep, here's humblebum's picture of Dawkins: |
LAGC |
Jul-23-11 05:18 AM |
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Utter horseshit |
Taverner |
Jul-21-11 04:18 PM |
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deleted |
humblebum |
Jul-21-11 04:34 PM |
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I can see getting upset with Hitchens, if you are a believer |
Taverner |
Jul-21-11 04:17 PM |
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Dawkins has turned out to be a raving misogynist. |
okasha |
Jul-21-11 05:36 PM |
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You have very perverted criteria |
skepticscott |
Jul-21-11 05:50 PM |
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I dunno about "raving misogynist," but yes he has said some misogynist things |
Taverner |
Jul-21-11 06:27 PM |
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If Dawkins were a "raving misogynist" |
skepticscott |
Jul-22-11 05:48 AM |
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"my focus has never been to disarm people of their inherent right to believe" |
ZombieHorde |
Jul-21-11 04:41 PM |
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Excuse me, but Dawkins advocated outlawing the teaching |
humblebum |
Jul-21-11 04:47 PM |
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Can I see a link for the Dawkins claim? |
ZombieHorde |
Jul-21-11 04:49 PM |
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There was nothing comical about hate speech and he did not |
humblebum |
Jul-21-11 05:06 PM |
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The link claims |
ZombieHorde |
Jul-21-11 05:28 PM |
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My point is that NEW atheism is very much about radical views and actions. |
humblebum |
Jul-21-11 05:33 PM |
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OK. What are the radical views and actions of new atheists? nt |
ZombieHorde |
Jul-21-11 05:48 PM |
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what is this, deja vu? Didn't we just discuss this? nt |
humblebum |
Jul-21-11 06:47 PM |
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You may have with someone else, but I don't remember discussing this with anyone |
ZombieHorde |
Jul-21-11 06:51 PM |
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I believe the exhortation by Hitchens to show |
humblebum |
Jul-21-11 07:01 PM |
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Might be considered radical by some; I agree with that. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Jul-21-11 07:10 PM |
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That's one guy |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-22-11 08:50 AM |
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deleted. sorry having posting problems. |
humblebum |
Jul-21-11 04:56 PM |
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"Cet animal est très méchant: quand on l'attaque il se défend." |
dimbear |
Jul-21-11 09:54 PM |
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New Atheism is largely War-on-Terror propaganda |
CrawlingChaos |
Jul-22-11 04:20 PM |
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So-called "New Atheism" has focused just as closely |
skepticscott |
Jul-22-11 08:13 PM |
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They most certainly have not |
CrawlingChaos |
Jul-22-11 09:21 PM |
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Yawn |
skepticscott |
Jul-23-11 04:46 AM |
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wow, that was quite a rebuttal |
CrawlingChaos |
Jul-23-11 03:29 PM |
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Since you gave me nothing much to rebut |
skepticscott |
Jul-23-11 04:36 PM |
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hardly cherry-picking |
CrawlingChaos |
Jul-23-11 07:38 PM |
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Uh, yeah you did |
skepticscott |
Jul-23-11 08:56 PM |
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you seem very confused |
CrawlingChaos |
Jul-23-11 09:55 PM |
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Nice try |
skepticscott |
Jul-24-11 05:00 AM |
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This rudeness |
CrawlingChaos |
Jul-24-11 06:21 AM |
#146 |
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And of course |
skepticscott |
Jul-24-11 06:35 AM |
#147 |
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That might explain Hitchens' interest. |
rug |
Jul-22-11 08:15 PM |
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I rather dislike the term 'New Atheism'... |
LeftishBrit |
Jul-23-11 04:46 PM |
#136 |
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I'll get back to you on this |
tortoise1956 |
Jul-23-11 11:52 PM |
#144 |
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