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Sal316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #125
144. Nice false equivalency.
Really?

Comparing God with Extraterrestrials?

Looks like you stumbled on another "cute" way to denigrate people of faith.
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  -I need to stand up for my own.. Liberal Christians.. Peacetrain  Jun-24-11 07:19 PM   #0 
  - Rec!  jorno67   Jun-24-11 07:21 PM   #1 
  - Liberal Christians are even ridiculed by people here at DU  bluestateguy   Jun-24-11 07:23 PM   #2 
  - Indeed. It's disgusting. And I'm not even a practicing Christian.  kestrel91316   Jun-24-11 07:26 PM   #5 
  - If you're not practicing ...  Kennah   Jun-24-11 07:42 PM   #9 
     - Silly, it means that any spiritual thoughts I have are inside my head,  kestrel91316   Jun-25-11 12:36 AM   #56 
  - Evangelical atheists  ashling   Jun-24-11 07:31 PM   #7 
  - +1  Maru Kitteh   Jun-24-11 10:54 PM   #43 
  - I know just what you mean..  Fumesucker   Jun-24-11 11:30 PM   #50 
  - really? Seriously? So atheists try to pass laws that take away other people's rights?  krabigirl   Jun-25-11 01:17 PM   #81 
  - really? Please post links as to how they've spent years converting others to their ideas  Donnachaidh   Jun-25-11 01:27 PM   #85 
  - no such thing as an "evangelical atheist", it's a (rather obsurd) oxymoron  inna   Jun-25-11 02:00 PM   #88 
  - anyone can evangelize on any subject, including atheism.  kwassa   Jun-25-11 04:35 PM   #102 
     - Thank you.  ashling   Jun-25-11 08:29 PM   #118 
  - Did you even stop to think about  skepticscott   Jun-25-11 05:37 PM   #104 
  - Not all fundamentalists are Dominionists.  okasha   Jun-26-11 08:58 AM   #131 
     - If that's the extent  skepticscott   Jun-26-11 02:54 PM   #154 
        - Sorry, I don't have a goat. Can't keep 'em in the city.  okasha   Jun-26-11 03:07 PM   #156 
  - Neither is *bad*, unless they seek to impose ideologically-based rules on others by law  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-11 06:22 PM   #107 
  - Yes and no.  kwassa   Jun-25-11 09:52 PM   #120 
     - So is the complaining 'only language'  LeftishBrit   Jun-26-11 04:19 AM   #128 
  - Uh huh.  laconicsax   Jun-25-11 06:58 PM   #113 
  - Oh horseshit  EvolveOrConvolve   Jun-25-11 10:27 PM   #122 
  - You obviously don't know any evangelical christians, then.  cleanhippie   Jun-26-11 09:37 AM   #135 
  - Funny, one thing I NEVER see around here is atheists making....  PassingFair   Jun-27-11 10:49 AM   #173 
  - I'm an atheist, but I think that type of derision is very weak-minded.  Throd   Jun-24-11 07:55 PM   #14 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-24-11 08:57 PM   #35 
  - I don't usually say stuff like that, but let me propose that it may not be directed at you.  Capitalocracy   Jun-25-11 01:27 PM   #84 
  - I'm sorry, but if you're going to call that "athiest mockery" then please offer...  mike_c   Jun-25-11 02:27 PM   #92 
  - Excellent post!!!!!! Well Done!!!!  cleanhippie   Jun-26-11 09:38 AM   #136 
  - It actually happens on both sides  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-11 06:34 PM   #110 
  - Well, all *true* Scotsmen like haggis.  AlabamaLibrul   Jun-24-11 07:24 PM   #3 
  - The few full blooded Scotsmen I know hate the stuff, but you're implying something not in the OP.  bluesbassman   Jun-24-11 08:11 PM   #19 
     - "we are targeted by crazies who do not even understand the core of the religion they claim to be a  AlabamaLibrul   Jun-25-11 01:26 AM   #59 
     - Actually, it would seem that YOU do NOT know it.  cleanhippie   Jun-26-11 09:40 AM   #137 
  - it is unfortunate that Christianity has been hijacked by religious zelots  think   Jun-24-11 07:26 PM   #4 
  - Yes it is..When I hear someone like a Limbaugh pontificate on things  Peacetrain   Jun-24-11 07:32 PM   #8 
     - And they could point to  skepticscott   Jun-25-11 06:03 PM   #106 
  - I say that I am believe in the Jesus sect of Chistianity  LiberalArkie   Jun-24-11 07:31 PM   #6 
  - there is a group called "red letter Christians" they focuss only on what Jesus said  jorno67   Jun-24-11 07:49 PM   #13 
     - Cool, had never heard of that.  Union Scribe   Jun-25-11 03:28 AM   #62 
     - Too cool, thanks for this!  Zoeisright   Jun-25-11 11:45 AM   #70 
     - As an atheist, I'm a more red letter christian than most of the christians I know or come across  Fuzz   Jun-25-11 12:03 PM   #72 
  - Yes, too often it is forgotten that..  TreasonousBastard   Jun-24-11 07:45 PM   #10 
  - Rec  cordelia   Jun-24-11 07:47 PM   #11 
  - One of my best friends is a devout, liberal Catholic  Kennah   Jun-24-11 07:47 PM   #12 
  - I am married to a liberal Catholic, who played the Vatican Rag  Peacetrain   Jun-24-11 08:07 PM   #18 
  - First you get down on your knees, fiddle with your rosaries, bow your head in great respect and  kwassa   Jun-24-11 11:03 PM   #46 
     - get in line in that processional  End Of The Road   Jun-25-11 04:18 PM   #100 
        - If it is try playing it safer  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-11 06:49 PM   #112 
  - Thats my cross as well  999998th word   Jun-25-11 12:48 AM   #58 
  - "Pro-Life equals Real Catholic"  trotsky   Jun-26-11 10:56 AM   #141 
     - Yes, and "Pro-life" also means anti-death penalty, anti-war, anti-poverty, and anti-torture  WildEyedLiberal   Jun-26-11 11:27 AM   #143 
        - Yep, both liberal and conservative Catholics ignore what they don't like...  trotsky   Jun-26-11 04:21 PM   #159 
  - State of Belief. Try this radio program by Interfaith Alliance.  no_hypocrisy   Jun-24-11 08:00 PM   #15 
  - k&r  DesertRat   Jun-24-11 08:05 PM   #16 
  - I don't mean to seem critical...  brooklynite   Jun-24-11 08:06 PM   #17 
  - To liberal Christians- the entire OT is allegory.  KittyWampus   Jun-24-11 08:14 PM   #20 
  - but that's my point...  brooklynite   Jun-24-11 08:16 PM   #22 
     - The Old Testament is not "written off as allegory". It's intentionally understood as allegory  KittyWampus   Jun-24-11 08:33 PM   #29 
        - Well since you seem to have the bible all figured out, why don't you confront those that do not?  cleanhippie   Jun-26-11 09:43 AM   #138 
           - Wrong.  okasha   Jun-26-11 01:31 PM   #147 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-26-11 02:25 PM   #151 
           - In the UK, many Christian liberals *do* confront the religious right  LeftishBrit   Jun-26-11 04:56 PM   #160 
           - Because the fundie preachers have told their flocks that liberal Christians  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-26-11 10:20 PM   #170 
  - That is a good question and I do not take it as critical at all.  Peacetrain   Jun-24-11 08:24 PM   #25 
  - here's the way I see it...  jorno67   Jun-24-11 08:27 PM   #27 
  - So you believe every christian  Riftaxe   Jun-24-11 09:12 PM   #37 
  - You miss my point...  brooklynite   Jun-24-11 11:25 PM   #49 
     - Since I am not a Christian  Riftaxe   Jun-24-11 11:56 PM   #51 
  - The tenets laid down by whom? The priests who decided which books to include in the NT?  DevonRex   Jun-25-11 01:28 PM   #86 
  - Right there with ya.  w8liftinglady   Jun-24-11 08:15 PM   #21 
  - I hear that..  Peacetrain   Jun-24-11 08:28 PM   #28 
  - liberal shoutn' methodist here...  madrchsod   Jun-24-11 08:17 PM   #23 
  - Love the UM's.. my son is a UM..  Peacetrain   Jun-24-11 08:26 PM   #26 
     - i have`t gone to my church in years but..  madrchsod   Jun-24-11 08:34 PM   #30 
        - yep... I am UCC (United Church of Christ) congregational.. and the UCC's  Peacetrain   Jun-24-11 08:42 PM   #31 
           - Your son could have also joined the Church of England.  kentauros   Jun-24-11 11:24 PM   #48 
              - I am going to send that to him  Peacetrain   Jun-25-11 12:18 PM   #77 
              - I love it, too!  kentauros   Jun-25-11 01:21 PM   #82 
              - but then he would have had to  dana_b   Jun-25-11 02:53 PM   #95 
                 - Or put up with a "minimal" congregation.  kentauros   Jun-25-11 07:58 PM   #116 
  - Thank you! I've been thinking much the same -  lynne   Jun-24-11 08:21 PM   #24 
  - ...  Peacetrain   Jun-24-11 08:44 PM   #33 
  - Thank you, Peacetrain, for bringing this to people's attention  checks-n-balances   Jun-24-11 08:44 PM   #32 
  - I just cringe when I hear a Pat Roberston blast off with something.. and  Peacetrain   Jun-24-11 08:48 PM   #34 
  - While not a christian myself  Riftaxe   Jun-24-11 09:04 PM   #36 
  - Episcopalian here from a parish that went overwhelmingly for Kerry and Obama  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-24-11 09:17 PM   #38 
  - One of the coolest people in Christianity is Episcopalian:  kentauros   Jun-24-11 11:16 PM   #47 
  - I'm a cynical atheist, but I like liberal Christians.  philly_bob   Jun-24-11 09:58 PM   #39 
  - K&R. But my beliefs have changed. I no longer (nor ever really did) believe in the magic man  Kurovski   Jun-24-11 10:33 PM   #40 
  - Agreed, Peacetrain. Another UCC here. (Son of a preacher man)  FailureToCommunicate   Jun-24-11 10:52 PM   #41 
  - K & R, and thanks for this thread - it's an important one. n/t  Maru Kitteh   Jun-24-11 10:54 PM   #42 
  - I'm more into ethics than denominational hairsplitting  eridani   Jun-24-11 10:57 PM   #44 
  - I am from an Episcopal church with a gay married woman as clergy  kwassa   Jun-24-11 11:01 PM   #45 
  - My mom's Episcopal minister is gay.  Kablooie   Jun-25-11 03:19 AM   #61 
  - Well clearly, you are all going to Hell.  Kurovski   Jun-25-11 01:15 PM   #79 
     - And I forgot to add this...  Kurovski   Jun-25-11 02:01 PM   #89 
  - It's okay, Peacetrain. Some of my best friends are liberal Christians.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-25-11 12:06 AM   #52 
  - I'd like to add that I am a Liberal Christian because I value & understand Justice and respect for  patrice   Jun-25-11 12:11 AM   #53 
  - Episcopalian here  jcboon   Jun-25-11 12:18 AM   #54 
  - My grandfather and uncle were Episcopalian Ministers.  Kablooie   Jun-25-11 12:19 AM   #55 
  - Sweet! Thanks for the encouraging info! It is good to think of there being such a family.  patrice   Jun-25-11 12:47 AM   #57 
  - Yep. KnR  Lucinda   Jun-25-11 03:06 AM   #60 
  - K&R  JoeyT   Jun-25-11 03:57 AM   #63 
  - There were a lot of aspects about Jesus that didn't fit the paradigm of neo-liberal corporatism  peopleb4money   Jun-25-11 04:42 AM   #64 
  - Liberal Presbyterian (PCUSA) checking in!  NutmegYankee   Jun-25-11 06:26 AM   #65 
  - My denomination--the Episcopalians--was split asunder by gay rights.  mistertrickster   Jun-25-11 10:24 AM   #66 
  - And my church just hosted a Communion service for attendees at the  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-26-11 10:27 PM   #171 
  - Liberal Catholic here  WildEyedLiberal   Jun-25-11 11:05 AM   #67 
  - K&R n/t  OhioChick   Jun-25-11 11:21 AM   #68 
  - I have no problems with Christians who understand the difference...  bvar22   Jun-25-11 11:40 AM   #69 
  - The Great Commandment in many religions and philosophies..  Peacetrain   Jun-25-11 12:08 PM   #73 
  - This Liberal Atheist Gave you a Rec  fascisthunter   Jun-25-11 12:02 PM   #71 
  - Thank you  Peacetrain   Jun-25-11 12:15 PM   #75 
     - It is... I find myself going to the same church..  fascisthunter   Jun-25-11 12:22 PM   #78 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-11 12:11 PM   #74 
  - Liberal Christians are some of my favorite people  ismnotwasm   Jun-25-11 12:18 PM   #76 
  - I'm cool with liberal Christians, but some are not cool with those who don't believe.  krabigirl   Jun-25-11 01:16 PM   #80 
  - The key is for people to specify what they stand for, not what it's called.  DirkGently   Jun-25-11 01:21 PM   #83 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-11 01:45 PM   #87 
  - There is no respectful way to call people "kooks"  WildEyedLiberal   Jun-25-11 02:27 PM   #91 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-11 02:34 PM   #93 
  - Sometimes it can be difficult.. because people of faith get tarred by the same brush  Peacetrain   Jun-25-11 02:45 PM   #94 
  - thank you for being willing to discuss this....  mike_c   Jun-25-11 07:43 PM   #115 
     - There is nothing respectful about describing all religious believers as delusional.  kwassa   Jun-25-11 09:59 PM   #121 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-26-11 02:19 PM   #150 
     - Your defensiveness speaks volumes  WildEyedLiberal   Jun-26-11 11:19 AM   #142 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-26-11 02:33 PM   #153 
  - you are looking for outward evidence, it is within and if you have not experienced it  seabeyond   Jun-25-11 03:54 PM   #97 
  - Despicable  cordelia   Jun-25-11 04:17 PM   #99 
  - Humans are not a strictly rational species, our rationality is compartmentalized (at best)  entanglement   Jun-25-11 04:50 PM   #103 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-25-11 07:30 PM   #114 
     - If it's true that 90-95% are religious. (Where does that figure come from?) then...  Kurovski   Jun-26-11 09:07 AM   #132 
        - It depends on how you count  entanglement   Jun-26-11 01:57 PM   #148 
           - Thanks. (nt)  Kurovski   Jun-26-11 02:02 PM   #149 
  - K&R! Also liberal faith in general is inclusive,  felix_numinous   Jun-25-11 02:17 PM   #90 
  - Liberal Christians are still Christians  mr blur   Jun-25-11 03:43 PM   #96 
  - but who would think that all the religious are delusional?  kwassa   Jun-25-11 04:33 PM   #101 
  - K&R. I, myself, am not religious. However, I have recently found....  OneGrassRoot   Jun-25-11 03:57 PM   #98 
  - Here's an idea for a truce. Let the Christians take the same insouciant attitude toward  dimbear   Jun-25-11 05:50 PM   #105 
  - Someone makes fun of atheists for believing in hell?  okasha   Jun-25-11 06:47 PM   #111 
  - Well, there is another fine display of obtuseness. How expected.  cleanhippie   Jun-26-11 09:47 AM   #139 
  - When did anyone on DU ever condemn you to hell?  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-26-11 10:30 PM   #172 
  - I agree that liberals/left-wingers are 'all in it together'  LeftishBrit   Jun-25-11 06:26 PM   #108 
  - Suppose that  skepticscott   Jun-25-11 06:28 PM   #109 
  - +1  mike_c   Jun-25-11 08:07 PM   #117 
  - You miss the point  kwassa   Jun-25-11 10:35 PM   #124 
     - If you can demonstrate  skepticscott   Jun-25-11 10:50 PM   #125 
        - The difference is that many Christians are not Bible literalists  kwassa   Jun-26-11 12:06 AM   #127 
        - You seem to get stuck on the word "delusional"  Meshuga   Jun-26-11 07:07 AM   #129 
        - I get stuck on the word "all". No group is all anything.  kwassa   Jun-26-11 08:37 PM   #167 
           - I have reasons to conclude that you get stuck on the word "delusional"  Meshuga   Jun-27-11 08:47 PM   #182 
        - Your argument assumes that  skepticscott   Jun-26-11 08:00 AM   #130 
        - I think that if you poll the members of those churches ..  kwassa   Jun-26-11 08:50 PM   #168 
        - Do you believe jesus was the son of god, died on the cross for your sins, and was resurrected?  cleanhippie   Jun-26-11 09:49 AM   #140 
           - I believe Jesus was a son of God and died on the cross  kwassa   Jun-26-11 08:52 PM   #169 
        - Nice false equivalency.  Sal316   Jun-26-11 11:38 AM   #144 
           - Is that it?  skepticscott   Jun-26-11 02:58 PM   #155 
              - Yes, it is.  Sal316   Jun-26-11 05:52 PM   #162 
                 - Allow me--How. Is. It. Different?  Goblinmonger   Jun-26-11 07:14 PM   #165 
                 - Spare me your blather  skepticscott   Jun-27-11 03:08 PM   #175 
  - Depends on what you mean by "House of God"  SarahM32   Jun-25-11 08:43 PM   #119 
  - Welcome to DU, SarahM32!  Kurovski   Jun-26-11 09:09 AM   #133 
     - Thanks. I hope I can contribute..  SarahM32   Jun-26-11 12:20 PM   #145 
  - Alright, who had #0 in this month's Scotsman pool?  EvolveOrConvolve   Jun-25-11 10:29 PM   #123 
  - I never think to take 0  Goblinmonger   Jun-26-11 07:15 PM   #166 
  - Is it a fresh breeze?  Thats my opinion   Jun-25-11 11:33 PM   #126 
  - You're funny.  rrneck   Jun-26-11 09:35 AM   #134 
  - Nope. Just the same stale windbags.  onager   Jun-26-11 01:02 PM   #146 
  - Yeah, much like replacing one fart with another is a "fresh breeze."  cleanhippie   Jun-26-11 02:27 PM   #152 
  - It's hard to tell beforehand which direction the wind will blow.  dimbear   Jun-26-11 05:56 PM   #163 
  - I would rather have this op deleted than leave it in here.  Peacetrain   Jun-26-11 03:31 PM   #157 
  - Let it stand, Peacetrain.  okasha   Jun-26-11 04:09 PM   #158 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-26-11 05:07 PM   #161 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-26-11 06:54 PM   #164 
  - Stand up to whom though? DU?  dmallind   Jun-27-11 02:08 PM   #174 
     - First of all..this was originally posted in GD.. not some obscure sub folder  Peacetrain   Jun-27-11 03:30 PM   #176 
        - Not offended at all - was your concern then the attack by fundies?  dmallind   Jun-27-11 03:46 PM   #177 
           - Nope it was just a statement.. I am not a kook, not a creationist  Peacetrain   Jun-27-11 03:57 PM   #178 
              - Well responses #2 and #7 blamed atheists right away, so it's hardly surprising they/we responded  dmallind   Jun-27-11 04:16 PM   #179 
                 - There were a number of sky fairy  Peacetrain   Jun-27-11 04:31 PM   #180 
                    - I think we're talking at cross purposes  dmallind   Jun-27-11 04:50 PM   #181 
 

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