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Wed Jun-22-11 04:15 PM
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I was raised southern Baptist and have spent a lot of time around penticostals and other fundies. They believe in that shit. And there's a lot of them. As I recall the fundies are growing in numbers.
Like I said, I doubt it can be fixed. We just aren't very good at managing abundance, and religion has proven to be just as susceptible to the evils of wealth as any other social institution. I am willing to bet that if Constantine had decided to unify the Roman empire with paganism the result would still be the same.
It would help if we didn't have to listen to the virtues of religion at every turn. I get tired of hucksters trying to turn people's emotions into the source of a revenue stream.
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| -religion and the environmental crisis |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-17-11 05:20 PM |
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Wanblee Mato, one of the greatest of the Lakota holy men, |
okasha |
Jun-17-11 05:41 PM |
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And yet half the Republican party says |
edhopper |
Jun-17-11 07:25 PM |
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a con game |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-18-11 11:02 AM |
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So why bring religion |
edhopper |
Jun-18-11 01:17 PM |
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Notice how you asked a very legitimate question and recieved NO response at all? |
cleanhippie |
Jun-20-11 03:04 PM |
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Where in the Bible does it talk about God wanting us to protect the earth?? |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-18-11 03:17 AM |
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all over |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-18-11 11:05 AM |
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Then could you please give me some reference points |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-18-11 11:17 AM |
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I second the request in post #10 above. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jun-21-11 02:45 PM |
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Crickets. The wind blows. Tumbleweeds roll by. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jun-22-11 11:26 AM |
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Dude, it's "all over." |
trotsky |
Jun-22-11 12:16 PM |
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Genesis 2:15 |
Sal316 |
Jul-03-11 12:38 AM |
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What a fundamentalist reading! |
laconicsax |
Jul-03-11 02:38 PM |
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Perhaps you could establish, first, that there was a conflict |
okasha |
Jul-03-11 02:55 PM |
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The Israelites came from a pastoral tradition. |
laconicsax |
Jul-03-11 05:05 PM |
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That explanation is both speculative |
okasha |
Jul-03-11 05:17 PM |
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The problem lies in your misunderstanding of history. |
laconicsax |
Jul-03-11 09:09 PM |
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I don't think so. |
okasha |
Jul-03-11 10:32 PM |
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So you do believe that Cain was a real person. |
laconicsax |
Jul-03-11 11:31 PM |
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No, I don't. |
okasha |
Jul-04-11 08:22 AM |
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What a lack of understanding... |
Sal316 |
Jul-04-11 11:29 AM |
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LOL! You're still reading it literally. |
laconicsax |
Jul-04-11 02:41 PM |
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LOL! You're still making stuff up! |
Sal316 |
Jul-04-11 04:10 PM |
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Still fighting straw men I see. |
laconicsax |
Jul-04-11 04:26 PM |
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So, you have no sources.... |
Sal316 |
Jul-04-11 04:44 PM |
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It seems I misspoke. |
laconicsax |
Jul-04-11 05:11 PM |
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Sources means titles, authors, etc. |
Sal316 |
Jul-04-11 05:15 PM |
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At a guess, |
okasha |
Jul-04-11 06:32 PM |
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I'd be lying if I said it wasn't an influence. I'd also be lying if I said it's my sole influence. |
laconicsax |
Jul-04-11 07:58 PM |
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The rubric regarding the interpretation of fiction |
okasha |
Jul-04-11 08:17 PM |
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What level do you teach? |
laconicsax |
Jul-04-11 08:42 PM |
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College and university. |
okasha |
Jul-04-11 11:36 PM |
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Interesting. |
laconicsax |
Jul-05-11 01:00 AM |
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I have no idea where you took such courses or when,, |
okasha |
Jul-05-11 08:34 AM |
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Who said anything about allowing novels as documentary sources? |
laconicsax |
Jul-05-11 02:24 PM |
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You did. |
okasha |
Jul-05-11 02:40 PM |
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An influence is not a source. |
laconicsax |
Jul-05-11 04:13 PM |
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Duck and cover. |
okasha |
Jul-05-11 04:29 PM |
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Take your pick. |
laconicsax |
Jul-05-11 04:43 PM |
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Here's some places where you mgiht start out: |
okasha |
Jul-05-11 10:56 PM |
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I see... |
laconicsax |
Jul-06-11 01:29 AM |
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See the books. |
okasha |
Jul-06-11 07:39 AM |
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So you have nothing. |
laconicsax |
Jul-06-11 10:48 AM |
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What a lot of empty fluffery. |
okasha |
Jul-06-11 03:03 PM |
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Sorry, not going to play your game. |
laconicsax |
Jul-06-11 05:01 PM |
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The "game" only in your imagination and in your attempt to dodge issues. |
okasha |
Jul-06-11 09:04 PM |
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So you're declaring something to be both in my imagination and ended? |
laconicsax |
Jul-06-11 10:42 PM |
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A telepathic gorilla? |
Sal316 |
Jul-05-11 03:14 PM |
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Yes, that's so much more ridiculous than human parthenogenesis, resurrection, and magic. |
laconicsax |
Jul-05-11 04:34 PM |
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Yes, I scoff. |
Sal316 |
Jul-05-11 05:45 PM |
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You don't think I believe in an literal telepathic gorilla, do you? |
laconicsax |
Jul-05-11 05:55 PM |
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No, I don't think you believe in that. |
Sal316 |
Jul-05-11 06:15 PM |
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Yet you feel that it's an integral part of what I've said. |
laconicsax |
Jul-05-11 06:59 PM |
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Burden of proof isn't on me, here. |
Sal316 |
Jul-05-11 08:10 PM |
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There you go again--making something of nothing. |
laconicsax |
Jul-05-11 10:21 PM |
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I'm only applying Jesus' version of the golden rule. |
laconicsax |
Jul-04-11 07:49 PM |
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Still you show absolutely nothing of the rhyme or reason behind the idea |
darkstar3 |
Jul-04-11 07:26 PM |
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"Scholarship," my dear darkstar. |
laconicsax |
Jul-04-11 08:04 PM |
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Now you're being intentionally obtuse. |
Sal316 |
Jul-05-11 12:13 AM |
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And why do you take that verse literally when so much, according to you, is metaphorical? |
darkstar3 |
Jul-05-11 06:46 PM |
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So metaphorical interpretation has no real world application? |
Sal316 |
Jul-06-11 11:41 AM |
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Did I say anything of the sort? No. |
darkstar3 |
Jul-06-11 09:37 PM |
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I don't take it literally. |
Sal316 |
Jul-06-11 10:49 PM |
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You've pontificated, expounding with your own opinion, numerous times. |
darkstar3 |
Jul-06-11 11:20 PM |
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What,exactly is your point? |
Sal316 |
Jul-07-11 09:42 AM |
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Leviticus 18:22 |
trotsky |
Jul-06-11 07:53 AM |
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Here you go. |
dimbear |
Jul-04-11 01:04 AM |
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That's an easy one. The culprit is human overpopulation. |
dimbear |
Jun-18-11 04:20 AM |
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"Go forth and multiply" |
edhopper |
Jun-18-11 07:55 AM |
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eat your dinner |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-18-11 11:07 AM |
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So where in the Bible does God say |
edhopper |
Jun-18-11 01:15 PM |
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Like China? |
Starboard Tack |
Jul-06-11 12:38 PM |
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In every city, town, and wide spot in the road hamlet |
rrneck |
Jun-18-11 08:56 AM |
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Really? |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-18-11 11:41 AM |
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Yep. |
rrneck |
Jun-18-11 01:03 PM |
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That would be the Sistine chapel that shows Adam |
okasha |
Jun-18-11 01:38 PM |
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Please |
rrneck |
Jun-18-11 02:25 PM |
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Yes, Adam is reaching toward God, |
okasha |
Jun-20-11 03:42 PM |
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Everything about christian theology |
rrneck |
Jun-21-11 12:35 AM |
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Re: up/down: Not really. |
okasha |
Jun-21-11 03:25 PM |
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Here are some links for you. |
rrneck |
Jun-21-11 11:32 PM |
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I think even the fundies are pretty much beyond the pancake-stack cosmos. |
okasha |
Jun-22-11 01:38 PM |
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For what it's worth |
rrneck |
Jun-22-11 04:15 PM |
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For what it's worth |
okasha |
Jun-22-11 05:39 PM |
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The flying buttress and the groined vault had no negative environmental impact |
okasha |
Jun-18-11 12:25 PM |
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One of these is a church. |
rrneck |
Jun-18-11 12:33 PM |
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One of those is a megachurch. |
okasha |
Jun-18-11 12:40 PM |
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If religion is "rooted in the earth" |
rrneck |
Jun-18-11 01:10 PM |
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Sorry, your question makes less than perfect sense. |
okasha |
Jun-18-11 01:58 PM |
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Every method of construction |
rrneck |
Jun-18-11 02:41 PM |
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Actually, I misspoke. They're all churches. nt |
rrneck |
Jun-20-11 11:32 AM |
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Including the football stadium? |
okasha |
Jun-20-11 03:44 PM |
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Especially the football stadium. nt |
rrneck |
Jun-20-11 07:19 PM |
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Explain. |
okasha |
Jun-21-11 09:25 AM |
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A group of people |
rrneck |
Jun-21-11 09:37 AM |
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So a bridge club is a "church?" |
okasha |
Jun-21-11 03:30 PM |
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Yes and no. |
rrneck |
Jun-22-11 12:35 AM |
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I think you're conflating ritual and religion |
okasha |
Jun-22-11 11:46 AM |
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Ritual is a physical manifestation |
rrneck |
Jun-22-11 12:35 PM |
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The ritual is the shared portion of the experience. |
okasha |
Jun-22-11 01:18 PM |
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Well they weren't out there |
rrneck |
Jun-22-11 03:23 PM |
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The motivation remains the same? |
okasha |
Jun-22-11 05:43 PM |
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Nah. |
rrneck |
Jun-22-11 07:16 PM |
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Historically, witchhunts have been inspired by a perception |
okasha |
Jun-22-11 08:24 PM |
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True that. |
rrneck |
Jun-22-11 09:00 PM |
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Hey be careful - architecture is one of the real gifts of religion. |
dmallind |
Jun-20-11 03:34 PM |
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Thank you. |
okasha |
Jun-20-11 03:47 PM |
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Yes, they are magnificent . |
rrneck |
Jun-20-11 10:00 PM |
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Your Problem, Sir, Is That You Imagine The Words 'Good' And 'Christian' To have Identical Meanings |
The Magistrate |
Jun-18-11 11:59 AM |
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Never said it |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-20-11 04:46 PM |
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It's the subtext of most of your posts. |
Goblinmonger |
Jun-21-11 08:46 AM |
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It's all about you, ain't it. (n/t) |
Iggo |
Jun-18-11 12:14 PM |
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Hostility? |
Goblinmonger |
Jun-20-11 11:37 AM |
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What are you trying to achieve? |
dmallind |
Jun-20-11 04:04 PM |
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I follow you many thoughtful posts |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-21-11 05:06 PM |
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I take exception to your comment about religion |
Curmudgeoness |
Jun-20-11 07:19 PM |
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Keep tuned |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-21-11 05:13 PM |
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I will look at your piece in a minute, but for now, |
Curmudgeoness |
Jun-21-11 08:36 PM |
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evolution |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-21-11 10:06 PM |
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Well isn't that special. |
cambie |
Jun-21-11 12:19 AM |
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I can't account for you limited contacts |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-21-11 05:20 PM |
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Your opinion is misinformed. |
laconicsax |
Jun-21-11 03:34 PM |
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Gosh iaconicsax |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-21-11 05:23 PM |
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Gosh thats my opinion |
laconicsax |
Jun-21-11 06:21 PM |
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could you quote |
Thats my opinion |
Jun-21-11 07:25 PM |
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"Every major religion has as its root a concern for the earth, not some speculation about heaven." |
laconicsax |
Jun-21-11 08:32 PM |
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That statement is patently wrong. |
Ninjaneer |
Jun-22-11 06:46 PM |
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Yes, it is. |
laconicsax |
Jun-22-11 06:51 PM |
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You are patently wrong. |
Sal316 |
Jul-03-11 12:46 AM |
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