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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 02:29 PM
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18. You're only ethical because religion tells you to be?
Without religion, you wouldn't be ethical? Dude, that's really scary.
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  -Where can I have the conversation? Thats my opinion  May-26-11 01:18 PM   #0 
  - "I accept the difference" there is NO difference.  Ninjaneer   May-26-11 01:25 PM   #1 
  - That's clear enough  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 01:34 PM   #6 
     - Not really.  Ninjaneer   May-27-11 12:46 PM   #76 
  - In one of your first posts here, you said:  trotsky   May-26-11 01:30 PM   #2 
  - Thanks. I'll try and hit the ball in bounds.  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 01:52 PM   #9 
     - You're missing a crucial element:  laconicsax   May-26-11 02:23 PM   #17 
     - You're missing the point  okasha   May-26-11 03:04 PM   #19 
     - Sure there were  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 04:04 PM   #24 
        - Could you delineate the difference between "bad religion" and "good religion?"  laconicsax   May-26-11 06:46 PM   #44 
     - "While I hold to the statement you quoted..."  trotsky   May-26-11 07:14 PM   #46 
     - let let me quote myself--which you don't seem to have readd  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 07:33 PM   #49 
        - I'm curious...  laconicsax   May-26-11 07:46 PM   #51 
        - You applaud their work...  trotsky   May-26-11 07:49 PM   #52 
           - Where have I said that  Thats my opinion   May-27-11 01:03 PM   #78 
              - Seriously? That's what this whole subthread has been about!  trotsky   May-27-11 01:43 PM   #90 
     - I would say if we look at Europe today  edhopper   May-26-11 10:12 PM   #62 
  - I am sorry you were booted out of the Atheist/Agnostic  Curmudgeoness   May-26-11 01:31 PM   #3 
  - Best response in the thread!  CrispyQ   May-26-11 01:51 PM   #8 
     - empathy?  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 02:04 PM   #10 
        - Finally, a statement I can agree with.  Curmudgeoness   May-26-11 02:15 PM   #13 
        - Can you clairfy this part please?  cleanhippie   May-26-11 06:10 PM   #40 
           - No, all art etc.  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 07:22 PM   #48 
              - ok, thank you.  cleanhippie   May-26-11 09:38 PM   #58 
  - To your specific question, I'm not sure you'll get a clear answer...  brooklynite   May-26-11 01:32 PM   #4 
  - Right here. (n/t)  Iggo   May-26-11 01:33 PM   #5 
  - Let'be clear: you did not try to say anything like this in the Atheists/Agnostics Group  muriel_volestrangler   May-26-11 01:37 PM   #7 
  - simmer down?  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 02:10 PM   #11 
     - I see little point in replying to your threads until you have given up insulting us  muriel_volestrangler   May-26-11 02:20 PM   #15 
     - Self-delete  darkstar3   May-26-11 04:21 PM   #27 
  - "Not only is there no God, but try finding a plumber on Sunday."  ZombieHorde   May-26-11 02:12 PM   #12 
  - What you say is the biggest problem I have with atheism  MikeH   May-27-11 12:54 AM   #67 
  - I don't see how a deist position would help solve your concerns about atheism  muriel_volestrangler   May-27-11 04:39 AM   #70 
  - Wow, great response.  ZombieHorde   May-27-11 02:11 PM   #92 
  - Don't think atheism requires nihilism, if that's where you're coming from.  DirkGently   May-27-11 03:57 PM   #101 
  - No value?  Thats my opinion   May-27-11 01:00 PM   #77 
  - No INHERENT value.  cleanhippie   May-27-11 01:33 PM   #86 
  - I value life, but life has no inherent value.  ZombieHorde   May-27-11 02:27 PM   #94 
  - "Life has no inherent meaning, value, or purpose." Can't agree with this religious tenet.  DirkGently   May-27-11 01:24 PM   #82 
     - The emphasis is on the word "inherent". Life has whatever meaning we choose to give it.  cleanhippie   May-27-11 01:32 PM   #85 
        - Thanks for pointing that out. nt  ZombieHorde   May-27-11 02:12 PM   #93 
  - You went into A/A, dropped a turd, and now you're suprised at the reaction?  laconicsax   May-26-11 02:17 PM   #14 
  - TMO--I'm glad you came back.  okasha   May-26-11 02:23 PM   #16 
  - I celebrate your history  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 05:06 PM   #32 
     - The only way this forum will be open to multiple viewpoints  okasha   May-26-11 05:24 PM   #34 
        - Highly privileged by whom?  skepticscott   May-26-11 08:25 PM   #54 
  - You're only ethical because religion tells you to be?  provis99   May-26-11 02:29 PM   #18 
  - It's a common meme with many Christians.  MineralMan   May-26-11 03:25 PM   #21 
  - stupid-yes it is  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 04:10 PM   #25 
     - Tell you what  skepticscott   May-26-11 05:45 PM   #38 
     - Fuck, just the arrogance is enough to make one puke.  cleanhippie   May-26-11 06:15 PM   #42 
     - Progressive Christians. Conservative Christians.  MineralMan   May-26-11 06:48 PM   #45 
  - who knows,  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 03:44 PM   #22 
     - Your sense of right and wrong came from your religion?  laconicsax   May-26-11 04:40 PM   #29 
        - I see you subscribe to the homophobic interpretation  okasha   May-26-11 05:32 PM   #35 
        - Umm..what?  laconicsax   May-26-11 06:10 PM   #41 
           - Uhm, no.  okasha   May-26-11 08:08 PM   #53 
              - In other words, it isn't homophobic, but you needed shit to sling so you're willing to make it up.  laconicsax   May-26-11 09:56 PM   #60 
              - Let's look at some other translations  muriel_volestrangler   May-27-11 05:39 AM   #72 
              - The original text is always authoritative over a translation.  okasha   May-27-11 05:51 PM   #106 
              - That's patently ridiculous.  ChadwickHenryWard   May-27-11 11:07 AM   #73 
                 - Don't expect an answer  skepticscott   May-27-11 11:17 AM   #74 
                 - Let's look at the context in which the dialogue takes place.  okasha   May-27-11 01:24 PM   #83 
                 - Breaking: God destroys Sodom for welcoming travelers.  laconicsax   May-27-11 01:37 PM   #87 
                 - Apparently the 'Sin of Sodom' was being friendly.  laconicsax   May-27-11 01:27 PM   #84 
                    - You do realize that that question is a distortion of the story?  okasha   May-27-11 01:43 PM   #89 
                       - Not according to your "corrected" reading.  laconicsax   May-27-11 03:37 PM   #96 
                          - I'm afraid it's demonstrably true.  okasha   May-27-11 05:35 PM   #105 
                             - Uh huh. Ok. Sure.  laconicsax   May-27-11 06:05 PM   #107 
        - I have my doubts about #5.  dimbear   May-26-11 10:30 PM   #63 
           - Shit! I forgot about the older brother!  laconicsax   May-26-11 10:57 PM   #66 
              - It's nice when the board gets into real life practical stuff. Stuff you could make a movie about.  dimbear   May-27-11 05:02 AM   #71 
                 - Exactly!  laconicsax   May-27-11 03:44 PM   #97 
  - Ethics and religion are not intimately tied to each other.  MineralMan   May-26-11 03:20 PM   #20 
  - Capital punishment  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 03:57 PM   #23 
     - No thanks. I have an unchangeable ethical opposition to it.  MineralMan   May-26-11 06:46 PM   #43 
  - "non-religion has pulled them in quite a different direction."  darkstar3   May-26-11 04:17 PM   #26 
  - Really  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 04:37 PM   #28 
     - I read everything you wrote.  darkstar3   May-26-11 04:53 PM   #30 
        - let me quote myself from this thread  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 05:01 PM   #31 
           - Which you then followed, in the same post, with what I quoted above.  darkstar3   May-26-11 08:38 PM   #55 
  - This forum is not the religious people's answer to A and A  LeftishBrit   May-26-11 05:11 PM   #33 
  - As you can see, the interest is not in conversation.  rug   May-26-11 05:39 PM   #36 
  - I disagree. It looks like there is a lot of conversation.  Curmudgeoness   May-26-11 05:44 PM   #37 
     - am I replying?  Thats my opinion   May-26-11 07:18 PM   #47 
        - You are replying to the threads where people are being  Curmudgeoness   May-26-11 07:42 PM   #50 
           - ^^^ THIS ^^^  Iggo   May-26-11 09:17 PM   #57 
           - The more I read from you  cleanhippie   May-26-11 09:41 PM   #59 
           - LOL, usually I avoid R/T, but I was really bored today.  Curmudgeoness   May-26-11 10:02 PM   #61 
              - I'm glad you are bored.  cleanhippie   May-26-11 10:40 PM   #64 
           - very good advice!  Thats my opinion   May-27-11 01:11 PM   #79 
  - How about sticking around in one single thread you start and responding.  cleanhippie   May-26-11 05:58 PM   #39 
  - The real question is  rrneck   May-26-11 09:14 PM   #56 
  - I like this part of your post.  cleanhippie   May-26-11 10:42 PM   #65 
  - You won't have one conversation in a DU thread, and you may actually have dozens  struggle4progress   May-27-11 01:32 AM   #68 
  - Perfect....  Curmudgeoness   May-27-11 12:30 PM   #75 
  - more very good advice  Thats my opinion   May-27-11 01:20 PM   #80 
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  - Ye gads! Me a moderator? Hardly.  Thats my opinion   May-27-11 01:21 PM   #81 
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        - Hmm...the plot thickens.  laconicsax   May-27-11 03:48 PM   #98 
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        - c Bayer??  Thats my opinion   May-27-11 03:53 PM   #100 
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        - duplicate post  okasha   May-27-11 05:19 PM   #104 
  - Don't know the history producing the snark here, but I think you pose a reasonable premise.  DirkGently   May-27-11 01:58 PM   #91 
 

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