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Sat May-07-11 04:14 PM
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| 3. "And I am fascinated by the spiritual man, |
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Edited on Sat May-07-11 04:15 PM by darkstar3
I'm humbled by his humble nature."
Alanis knew what she was talking about. Ponder that, will you?
Also, while you may respect the faith of others, I'd be interested to know why you think that anyone else should? Why should faith be automatically more respected than political, sports team, or other ideological affiliations?
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| -To the religious folk on DU, an appreciation from an agnostic. |
Rabblevox |
May-07-11 04:08 PM |
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"ascribing to you thoughts, beliefs, and behaviors I've never seen you exhibit." |
Ninjaneer |
May-07-11 04:12 PM |
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And are all of these people doing |
skepticscott |
May-07-11 04:14 PM |
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I often wonder how many would still be religious if there wasn't a promised payday(aka heaven). |
aSpeckofDust |
May-07-11 04:17 PM |
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I don't have a promised payday and I am religious |
Meshuga |
May-07-11 05:48 PM |
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Thank you. |
emilyg |
May-07-11 11:50 PM |
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payday? how sad. |
roguevalley |
May-07-11 10:39 PM |
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Here's the thing about faith and works... |
Sal316 |
May-07-11 05:47 PM |
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You understand that's how it's supposed to be? |
skepticscott |
May-07-11 06:30 PM |
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Yes, that's how I understand it. |
Sal316 |
May-10-11 04:20 PM |
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... |
trotsky |
May-11-11 06:30 AM |
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Hey, thanks Jesus! |
Ninjaneer |
May-08-11 07:38 AM |
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Wow, what an insightful response.... |
Sal316 |
May-10-11 04:20 PM |
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I tried to match the level of yours. |
Ninjaneer |
May-11-11 06:45 AM |
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Payday! |
angel2 |
May-08-11 08:45 PM |
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Wow, you solved that whole Catholic vs Protestant thing. |
Goblinmonger |
May-08-11 09:59 PM |
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"And I am fascinated by the spiritual man, |
darkstar3 |
May-07-11 04:14 PM |
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I judge people on their personalities, not their thoughts on invisible friends |
Taverner |
May-07-11 04:18 PM |
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My rec left it at zero. |
rug |
May-07-11 04:19 PM |
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Typical |
skepticscott |
May-07-11 04:21 PM |
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Force he doesn't recognize his group using. |
darkstar3 |
May-07-11 04:25 PM |
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I downrec'd because it is an expression of my opinion |
inademv |
May-07-11 04:26 PM |
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I wasn't referring to anyone's unrec |
skepticscott |
May-07-11 04:27 PM |
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He was referring to rug's post. |
Ninjaneer |
May-07-11 04:27 PM |
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You sound like a cartoon. |
rug |
May-07-11 07:51 PM |
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And again, a typically deep |
skepticscott |
May-07-11 08:02 PM |
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Here's your costume. |
rug |
May-07-11 08:11 PM |
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Oh, do feel free to explain |
skepticscott |
May-08-11 12:14 PM |
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Gladly. |
rug |
May-08-11 01:19 PM |
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You could always leave the forum and take a bath. |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 01:38 PM |
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. |
rug |
May-08-11 02:27 PM |
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Flyswatters, head-stomps, etc. |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 02:30 PM |
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Sure, they're exactly alike. |
rug |
May-08-11 02:35 PM |
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Sounds like |
edhopper |
May-08-11 01:47 PM |
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. . |
rug |
May-08-11 02:27 PM |
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And poor you... |
skepticscott |
May-08-11 01:50 PM |
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. . . |
rug |
May-08-11 02:28 PM |
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Says the guy posting |
Ninjaneer |
May-08-11 07:41 AM |
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Do you feel threatened |
rug |
May-08-11 07:46 AM |
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I think if the US became a Christian theocracy |
Goblinmonger |
May-08-11 10:02 PM |
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Really? Now tell me exactly how you come to that conclusion. |
rug |
May-09-11 08:20 PM |
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Not threatened at all. |
Ninjaneer |
May-08-11 10:56 PM |
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You should check again. |
rug |
May-09-11 08:21 PM |
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As a fellow agnostic (albeit a spiritually oriented one), thank you for a beautifully written |
abq e streeter |
May-07-11 04:36 PM |
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I love how the op defends one side from broad sweeping claims by making some to the other side. |
aSpeckofDust |
May-07-11 04:50 PM |
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The OP is simply remarking on what thay've seen far too many times here. |
abq e streeter |
May-07-11 05:00 PM |
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I've seen both sides. Neither has clean hands here. |
aSpeckofDust |
May-07-11 05:02 PM |
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and thank you, for actually listening to what I was trying to say! |
Rabblevox |
May-07-11 05:49 PM |
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some people hate religion for whatever personal reason they |
roguevalley |
May-07-11 10:46 PM |
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Funny you should decry stereotyping, while stereotyping. |
darkstar3 |
May-07-11 10:52 PM |
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and you prove my point. sorry the nuns spanked you but most |
roguevalley |
May-07-11 10:54 PM |
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I prove your point by pointing out that you're stereotyping? |
darkstar3 |
May-07-11 10:58 PM |
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But it's OK when they do it. n/t |
trotsky |
May-08-11 09:30 AM |
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An appropriate link: |
darkstar3 |
May-07-11 05:05 PM |
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Sooooooooooooo |
murrayhillfarm |
May-07-11 05:07 PM |
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Horrid bigotry on display. The 'faith community' or ganizes to |
Bluenorthwest |
May-07-11 05:27 PM |
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no. some do. Some 'religious' people do. Not all but you assume |
roguevalley |
May-07-11 10:49 PM |
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Bwahahaha! |
darkstar3 |
May-07-11 10:51 PM |
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no. and bwahahaha back at ya. |
roguevalley |
May-07-11 10:54 PM |
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Then you explain how you haven't seen |
darkstar3 |
May-07-11 10:57 PM |
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Wow and thanks |
Thats my opinion |
May-07-11 05:47 PM |
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Giving up? |
skepticscott |
May-07-11 06:23 PM |
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you might try blaming the ones who hate and distinguish among |
roguevalley |
May-07-11 10:50 PM |
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You might try understanding |
skepticscott |
May-07-11 11:10 PM |
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Bye bye , then, |
cleanhippie |
May-08-11 09:06 AM |
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Some of the battles the Christians fought were lost, too. We're living through |
dimbear |
May-07-11 08:06 PM |
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and religious people including priests and nuns were hurt and |
roguevalley |
May-07-11 10:52 PM |
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It is argued incessantly on this board and elsewhere |
skepticscott |
May-07-11 11:16 PM |
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I've never seen anyone claim on DU that only religious people can be moral |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-07-11 11:25 PM |
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Really? |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 02:52 AM |
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Thank you..couldn't have replied better |
skepticscott |
May-08-11 06:39 AM |
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But everyone in *my* church is nice! n/t |
trotsky |
May-08-11 09:32 AM |
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I have largely avoided R/T for the past few years |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 08:57 AM |
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Are you saying that there is no |
skepticscott |
May-08-11 10:14 AM |
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Hear hear |
edhopper |
May-08-11 10:20 AM |
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That's right, dump on the people who AREN'T condemning you to hell and |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 02:18 PM |
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The point I make is |
edhopper |
May-08-11 02:25 PM |
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I've explained this countless times, but you guys don't get it |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 03:23 PM |
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You are right, but it is YOUR battle to fight, and NO ONE from your side is willing to. |
cleanhippie |
May-08-11 04:13 PM |
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The embrace of the fundy |
edhopper |
May-08-11 04:29 PM |
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I do battle with fundies on my local paper's website on a nearly daily basis |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 04:56 PM |
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So perhaps its time to embrace a new name? |
cleanhippie |
May-08-11 06:36 PM |
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I've asked that question before, but it seems not to go over well. |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 06:59 PM |
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Well, the fundies seem to have claimed the term "Christian" for themselves, so |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 07:22 PM |
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Thats not really a name change, but I don't think a simple name change is enough. |
cleanhippie |
May-08-11 11:18 PM |
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We don't have the Coors Foundation and the Bradley Foundation |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 11:42 PM |
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I never said it would be easy, but you have my full support, and I'm willing to bet |
cleanhippie |
May-09-11 12:07 AM |
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Another one blaming the media. |
darkstar3 |
May-09-11 12:14 AM |
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Exactly! He was embraced when he should have been shunned. |
cleanhippie |
May-08-11 06:35 PM |
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It was the politicians embracing Rick Warren |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 07:31 PM |
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Um? |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 07:38 PM |
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The South has always been the heartland of fundamentalism, |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 07:48 PM |
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That's all well and good, but don't tell me that fundamentalist megachurches aren't found in cities. |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 07:56 PM |
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EXACTLY! Because they needed the votes from people that AGREE with him. |
cleanhippie |
May-08-11 11:22 PM |
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I don't deny that there are a lot of fundamentalist churches, but you don't |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 11:40 PM |
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You are not wrong, and your points are all valid |
cleanhippie |
May-09-11 12:12 AM |
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we (progressive) Christians are trying CH |
AlecBGreen |
May-08-11 08:12 PM |
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And so once again we see the media is to blame. |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 08:22 PM |
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I don't know how much experience you have trying to get media coverage |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-09-11 12:27 AM |
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I think you missed my point. |
darkstar3 |
May-09-11 12:36 AM |
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yes and no |
AlecBGreen |
May-09-11 08:17 PM |
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Why does "our side" never have the necessary fire? |
darkstar3 |
May-09-11 08:37 PM |
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To borrow from genetics |
AlecBGreen |
May-09-11 08:44 PM |
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I would agree with you, |
darkstar3 |
May-09-11 08:53 PM |
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Alec, thats great, but I shouldn't have to "look' for it. |
cleanhippie |
May-08-11 11:03 PM |
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I agree, you shouldnt have to look |
AlecBGreen |
May-09-11 08:06 PM |
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So why is it so difficult |
skepticscott |
May-08-11 05:49 PM |
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The same reason that the Republicans get the votes of the people they're screwing over |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 07:24 PM |
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But unlike them (allegedly), you're supposed to have god on your side. |
trotsky |
May-08-11 07:44 PM |
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God is not our errand boy |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 07:54 PM |
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Funny. |
trotsky |
May-08-11 08:03 PM |
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Uh, no |
skepticscott |
May-08-11 08:57 PM |
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They are being screwed over in an economic sense by people who |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-08-11 11:20 PM |
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Anyone who legitimizes and lends respectability |
skepticscott |
May-08-11 02:26 PM |
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whoever argues that is as big an ass as those who say belief |
roguevalley |
May-08-11 09:11 PM |
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The Catholic Encyclopedia was a fifteen volume work published between 1907 and 1912 |
struggle4progress |
May-07-11 11:54 PM |
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Do you have a link for that source? |
LAGC |
May-08-11 01:14 PM |
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I first found images of the original using google books: |
struggle4progress |
May-08-11 02:51 PM |
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Why are there never any answers to the questions asked in #3? |
darkstar3 |
May-07-11 10:54 PM |
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I guess the sophisticated theologians don't have any yet. n/t |
laconicsax |
May-08-11 01:06 AM |
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May-08-11 03:12 AM |
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The ignore feature is so silent, we would not know if it was being used properly or not. /nt |
Festivito |
May-08-11 08:38 AM |
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Ill take a crack at it |
AlecBGreen |
May-09-11 08:34 PM |
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It was a good crack, |
darkstar3 |
May-09-11 08:46 PM |
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May-08-11 08:50 AM |
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Yes, there are good people of faith |
edhopper |
May-08-11 09:19 AM |
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A question? |
westerebus |
May-08-11 03:13 PM |
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What makes you think they ask for it? |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 03:16 PM |
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You don't have any do you? |
westerebus |
May-08-11 03:28 PM |
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Exactly, |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 03:41 PM |
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I hope I didn't imply that. |
westerebus |
May-08-11 03:50 PM |
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If you mean athiests, no |
skepticscott |
May-08-11 03:56 PM |
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I'm sure there are things atheists believe in. |
westerebus |
May-08-11 04:05 PM |
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Absolutely not |
edhopper |
May-08-11 04:11 PM |
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Thanks. |
westerebus |
May-08-11 04:48 PM |
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May-08-11 01:27 PM |
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Thanks. |
Festivito |
May-08-11 08:35 PM |
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There is definitely a cadre of angry posters on DU. |
Festivito |
May-08-11 08:36 PM |
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How many times can one man get his shit deleted? |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 08:37 PM |
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There is something I feel I need to say for the betterment of DU. |
Festivito |
May-08-11 10:06 PM |
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"For the betterment of DU." |
darkstar3 |
May-08-11 10:28 PM |
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I'm presuming to say what I presume to say? You have a question? /nt |
Festivito |
May-08-11 10:41 PM |
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Well, it appears that the mods WERE listening, and "Deleted message" is what they thought. |
cleanhippie |
May-08-11 11:07 PM |
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Ah, the fine line of rules between DU Groups and a DU Culture Forum. |
Festivito |
May-09-11 05:21 AM |
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If you have a problem with what the mods do, take it up with the Mods. |
cleanhippie |
May-09-11 09:41 AM |
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May-08-11 08:38 PM |
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May-08-11 08:39 PM |
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-- wasting the other person's time. |
Festivito |
May-08-11 08:40 PM |
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Then, back to being slightly off target again. |
Festivito |
May-08-11 08:42 PM |
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May-08-11 08:44 PM |
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Gay Civil Union in the Bible! Gay bashing is NOT justified! |
angel2 |
May-08-11 09:09 PM |
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I'm an atheist, one people often bitch about, and I guarantee you |
Goblinmonger |
May-08-11 10:11 PM |
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Obligatory XKCD |
sudopod |
May-09-11 01:28 AM |
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+1 |
Rabblevox |
May-10-11 11:32 AM |
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