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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 02:52 AM
Response to Reply #173
175. Sorry, but you are still incorrect.
Edited on Fri Apr-22-11 03:19 AM by Behind the Aegis
"To begin, as darkstar3 pointed out, the "central claim" of the OP, isn't a claim, but a refutation of the claim that Exodus is true, Moses existed, etc."

Stating the opposite is NOT proof. Sorry, you can claim it is all you want, but it doesn't make it so. When one "refutes" something, then one proves or disproves a claim and as I said, saying the exact opposite is not refuting something as it is not proof.

"In each of your three examples, rather than prove a negative, you are disproving a positive and wording it as a negative."

Hate to break this to you, but it isn't the same thing. You are, again, wrong. If I said, "Baltimore IS the capitol of the United States." and you prove DC is the capitol, then you have "disproved a positive." The Earth example is an example of your proving a negative, because the negative statement is TRUE. IT IS FACT. You can prove a negative, despite your claims otherwise. However, it depends on limits. Limitless is unprovable either way.

You are now back-pedaling.

"If the Exodus narrative is true, there would be archeological evidence to support its claims.
There's no archaeological evidence to support its claims.
Therefore, the Exodus narrative is likely false.

You could even get more specific:
If the Israelites were in Egypt for generations, archaeological evidence confirming this would exist.
No such evidence exists.
Therefore, the Israelites weren't likely in Egypt for generations.
"

"Likely" is not true or false, but probability; speculation. You can claim that the existence of Moses and the Exodus story is questionable and highly unlikely (there's that word again), but it IS NOT FACT. Saying they didn't exist is not proof, it is belief; faith. So, you and the OP can claim you don't BELIEVE (opinion) Moses and the Exodus existed/happened, but you CANNOT claim it is FACT.

Again, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." You seem to be reading that statement without the word "not." March 13, 1781, Uranus is "discovered." It DID exist prior to its discovery and it DID exist though there was no evidence of it prior to that date.

Claiming Moses didn't exist and the Exodus didn't happen as FACTUAL is as wrong as someone claiming Moses did exist and the Exodus did happen. Something can be false or true, just not both; however, it can be neither. This is a case of it being "neither."
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