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Edited on Sat Jan-08-11 01:43 PM by Nye Bevan
I can see why the mods like to hide away religion threads in this forum. Rantings about how Dennis Kucinich is "similar to a fundie" simply because he is a Catholic are a little embarrassing.
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| -On Fundies, Christianity and DU. |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 07:51 PM |
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I try to reserve my negative comments to the fundies - of any religion. |
DCKit |
Jan-06-11 08:16 PM |
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Realize that it is not religion |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 08:24 PM |
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You're among many people |
skepticscott |
Jan-07-11 09:33 PM |
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While very influential, they are not the majority |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 09:49 PM |
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Between 40 and 50% of ALL Americans |
skepticscott |
Jan-07-11 10:00 PM |
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I do the math and they are not |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 10:07 PM |
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So what is your justification |
skepticscott |
Jan-08-11 07:32 AM |
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My friend, the atheists' position, if there is one, is not being helped by you. nt |
humblebum |
Jan-11-11 09:52 AM |
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Facts don't need "help". |
PassingFair |
Jan-12-11 11:59 AM |
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The atheist position = the missionary position, with Stalin |
onager |
Jan-14-11 01:31 AM |
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When we were little.... |
PassingFair |
Jan-14-11 08:38 AM |
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What is a fundy? I am assuming you mean "fundamentalist," but what is that? |
ZombieHorde |
Jan-06-11 08:17 PM |
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It is number three and having met and dealt with a few |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 08:23 PM |
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There are also fundamentalist atheists |
bananas |
Jan-07-11 12:39 PM |
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Sure, becuase urbandictionary is accurate in any way. |
darkstar3 |
Jan-07-11 12:57 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-07-11 01:03 PM |
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Ugh. THIS nonsense again? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-07-11 01:18 PM |
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I'm sure it was just an oversight. nt. |
Mariana |
Jan-07-11 05:08 PM |
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Those who not only hold strong beliefs about their behavior, but feel the need to |
uppityperson |
Jan-06-11 08:27 PM |
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I try to stay out of these conversations but.... |
Irishonly |
Jan-06-11 10:29 PM |
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another online definition that more closely says how I use the word... |
uppityperson |
Jan-06-11 08:30 PM |
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It is #3 - which refers to dems, repugs, etc - I have found more fundies here on DU |
The Straight Story |
Jan-06-11 08:38 PM |
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Fundies, to me, are the biblical literalists, who literally believe that every |
kestrel91316 |
Jan-06-11 09:43 PM |
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Trust me their Jewish counterparts are just as bad |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 10:09 PM |
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self delete. nt |
raccoon |
Jan-07-11 08:17 AM |
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Jews are not fundamentalists, unless they are Christianized. |
immoderate |
Jan-07-11 02:26 PM |
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When I think fundamentalist Jews, I picture the |
Crunchy Frog |
Jan-07-11 07:50 PM |
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Or my all time favorite since I got to be on the sharp end of it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 09:45 PM |
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Jews not immune to authoritarianism. |
immoderate |
Jan-07-11 10:28 PM |
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You should visit a Chabad house |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 09:41 PM |
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American Jews are not the only atheists. |
immoderate |
Jan-07-11 10:26 PM |
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What you have observed is the division between |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 10:36 PM |
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i usually pay no attention to those.... |
madrchsod |
Jan-06-11 08:19 PM |
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Well as nominally a Jew I don't either |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 08:26 PM |
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. |
haikugal |
Jan-06-11 08:30 PM |
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Re-read the OP please |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 08:35 PM |
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I think they do... |
haikugal |
Jan-06-11 09:35 PM |
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Hang around here for a while |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 09:46 PM |
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OK but what about my initial response? |
haikugal |
Jan-06-11 10:00 PM |
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My apologies |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 10:07 PM |
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Accepted.... |
haikugal |
Jan-07-11 12:10 AM |
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I guess I take issue with the "minority" label. |
Goblinmonger |
Jan-07-11 12:03 PM |
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Eloquently said. Fanatics of any color, stripe, origin, faith, etc...are dangerous. |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-06-11 08:34 PM |
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I got to say my first contact |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 08:40 PM |
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Thanks for that link |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-07-11 08:44 AM |
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Are you sure that is the reason? |
Boojatta |
Jan-14-11 10:29 PM |
#205 |
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"Fundy," I like it. Fundies deny science. |
Mojeoux |
Jan-06-11 08:43 PM |
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And for the record, our era will be known as ... |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 08:46 PM |
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Thank you. Sometimes it can feel very threatening for anyone to |
jwirr |
Jan-06-11 09:41 PM |
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Well it bothers me that there is a little bullying, to put it midly |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 09:45 PM |
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And please, not the |
skepticscott |
Jan-07-11 09:37 PM |
#82 |
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Yes you represent what you stand for quite well and most assuredly |
humblebum |
Jan-12-11 06:55 PM |
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.... |
Goblinmonger |
Jan-07-11 12:08 PM |
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Believer privilege at work. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Jan-07-11 12:31 PM |
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"You guys" ??? |
bananas |
Jan-07-11 01:01 PM |
#48 |
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Follow the dotted line that connects his post to the parent |
charlie |
Jan-07-11 01:12 PM |
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Follow along here if you can. |
Goblinmonger |
Jan-07-11 01:53 PM |
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Oh, yeah, and btw |
Goblinmonger |
Jan-07-11 01:59 PM |
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Must be hard being 90% of the population and in charge of everything. |
Codeine |
Jan-07-11 01:26 PM |
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As long as they keep their cartoon beliefs out of government...I agree. |
RagAss |
Jan-06-11 09:46 PM |
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So let me ask you |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-06-11 10:06 PM |
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Believing in a deity is one thing. Believing that said deity is working through you to govern me.... |
RagAss |
Jan-07-11 11:03 AM |
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And that is a real small but loud minority |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 11:14 AM |
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"cartoon beliefs"? What do you mean. nt |
uppityperson |
Jan-06-11 11:51 PM |
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K & R from a Pagan |
Withywindle |
Jan-07-11 02:13 AM |
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I think you have it about right. |
immoderate |
Jan-07-11 11:04 PM |
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K&R: Tolerance is a good thing |
Mimosa |
Jan-07-11 02:30 AM |
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"Moderates" just make it possible for fundies to exist |
mr blur |
Jan-07-11 02:57 AM |
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My fellow Tom Verlaine fan, it's really not that simple. |
Withywindle |
Jan-07-11 03:08 AM |
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So where does tolerance of others fit into your worldview? |
bighart |
Jan-07-11 05:54 AM |
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"Tolerance" ends |
skepticscott |
Jan-08-11 03:12 PM |
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I will offer to you two free clues |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 11:13 AM |
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^ Good clues, too ^ |
Mimosa |
Jan-07-11 03:26 PM |
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I am more than just a fan of the Power of Myth |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 09:11 PM |
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Note though that all religions have proscriptions for heretics. |
immoderate |
Jan-07-11 11:08 PM |
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76% of people in the US are Christian |
Nye Bevan |
Jan-07-11 09:00 AM |
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Only 16% believe |
Goblinmonger |
Jan-07-11 01:58 PM |
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So Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Dennis Kucinich, Ted Kennedy, John Paul Stevens, Howard Dean, |
Nye Bevan |
Jan-07-11 03:26 PM |
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Red Herring Fail. |
Goblinmonger |
Jan-07-11 07:21 PM |
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Definitely not a red herring, but a necessary straw man and |
humblebum |
Jan-11-11 09:45 AM |
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Straw men are logical fallacies and therefore never necessary. |
darkstar3 |
Jan-11-11 11:45 AM |
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They're absolutely necessary for him. |
trotsky |
Jan-11-11 03:53 PM |
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Always such constructive replies. And yes there are times when strawmen are |
humblebum |
Jan-11-11 05:31 PM |
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Seriously? |
darkstar3 |
Jan-11-11 05:45 PM |
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It's from a page that opens with: |
laconicsax |
Jan-11-11 05:58 PM |
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I don't think he's the only one who uses that site. |
darkstar3 |
Jan-11-11 06:04 PM |
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This is the source. One of several. |
humblebum |
Jan-12-11 11:38 AM |
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That's the same site I linked to. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 03:06 PM |
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Perfectly legitimate scholarly website. It just makes you look incompetent, but |
humblebum |
Jan-12-11 06:36 PM |
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That's quite a loose definition of "scholarly website." |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 07:02 PM |
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The man's Curriculum Vitae would indicate that you really are |
humblebum |
Jan-12-11 08:06 PM |
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Where in his CV does it mention his degree in philosophy? |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 08:51 PM |
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A degree in philosophy is hardly a requirement for scholarly debate. |
humblebum |
Jan-12-11 10:05 PM |
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Whose argument am I evading? It certainly isn't yours. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 10:31 PM |
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Don't look now but you just did it again. nt |
humblebum |
Jan-12-11 10:40 PM |
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Do you know what "nt" means? |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 12:14 AM |
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In this case I think here it means nice try, but you are out of touch with the real world. |
humblebum |
Jan-13-11 12:47 AM |
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Sigh...more of the same fallacy. |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 01:23 AM |
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I think the only criteria was christians, period. And that thing you call the big lie |
humblebum |
Jan-13-11 02:31 AM |
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Well, since it's been refuted by that criteria, I expect you'll be admitting error any minute now... |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 05:04 PM |
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Well, since you stumbled a couple times to finally identify the proper criteria |
humblebum |
Jan-13-11 06:00 PM |
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I accept your apology. n/t |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 06:11 PM |
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Great dodge. nt |
humblebum |
Jan-14-11 02:38 AM |
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I think at this point it might be best not to feed it. |
darkstar3 |
Jan-13-11 01:03 AM |
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He wants more rope, and I'm a generous person. |
laconicsax |
Jan-13-11 04:02 PM |
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Ha ha ha ha ha |
trotsky |
Jan-11-11 08:19 PM |
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Well, I would say that further justifies my assertion. Actually, in debate |
humblebum |
Jan-11-11 10:09 PM |
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Only for those who cannot defend their points any other way, as admitted even on that site. |
darkstar3 |
Jan-11-11 10:19 PM |
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Just like how taking steroids is a useful and acceptable method of winning athletic competitions. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 12:34 AM |
#147 |
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Now that is most definitely a straw man fallacy, however when |
humblebum |
Jan-12-11 10:28 AM |
#149 |
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You are absolutely wrong. Here's why: |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 03:05 PM |
#154 |
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Way to rationalize, but what you refer to as "dishonest tactics" are |
humblebum |
Jan-12-11 06:30 PM |
#159 |
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Wrong, and wrong again. |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 09:16 PM |
#173 |
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BOOKMARKING!!!!! Priceless quotes! |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 05:57 PM |
#190 |
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The quotes also haven't a thing to do with the subject referenced. |
humblebum |
Jan-14-11 04:12 PM |
#201 |
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Hahahahahaha! Nice try, but no cigar. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-15-11 10:30 AM |
#210 |
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I'll try to remember that |
GeorgeGist |
Jan-07-11 12:11 PM |
#42 |
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In principle most do actually |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 12:37 PM |
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We're not them, we're better! |
darkstar3 |
Jan-07-11 12:56 PM |
#46 |
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... |
trotsky |
Jan-07-11 01:08 PM |
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So Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Dennis Kucinich, Ted Kennedy, John Paul Stevens, Howard Dean, |
Nye Bevan |
Jan-07-11 03:21 PM |
#59 |
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Your overused fallacy deserves only one response. |
darkstar3 |
Jan-07-11 04:49 PM |
#62 |
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That's a great smilie. But one of the following two statements has to be true, doesn't it? |
Nye Bevan |
Jan-07-11 05:48 PM |
#64 |
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FYI, you totally missed the point of ds3's post. |
trotsky |
Jan-07-11 06:16 PM |
#65 |
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Sorry, my mistake. |
Nye Bevan |
Jan-07-11 07:37 PM |
#73 |
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So I guess you are just choosing to miss the point. |
trotsky |
Jan-07-11 08:23 PM |
#76 |
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I only have one response to avoid tough questions. |
Nye Bevan |
Jan-07-11 08:52 PM |
#77 |
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I'm sure Jesus is proud of you. n/t |
trotsky |
Jan-07-11 08:55 PM |
#78 |
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Oh, no, you've painted me into a corner! |
darkstar3 |
Jan-07-11 10:54 PM |
#97 |
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Would you consider casting your vote for a neo-fundie in a presidential election? (nt) |
Nye Bevan |
Jan-07-11 11:15 PM |
#100 |
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I would ask: |
darkstar3 |
Jan-07-11 11:41 PM |
#101 |
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I would say: |
Nye Bevan |
Jan-08-11 01:42 PM |
#114 |
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A simple "no" would have sufficed. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Jan-08-11 02:38 PM |
#115 |
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Moderates perpetuate and legitimize the blithering nonsense |
Codeine |
Jan-07-11 01:31 PM |
#54 |
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This atheist rec's this. n/t |
GOPBasher |
Jan-07-11 06:35 PM |
#66 |
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This Buddhist rec's this also. n/t |
AsahinaKimi |
Jan-07-11 07:51 PM |
#75 |
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Thank you! |
wryter2000 |
Jan-07-11 06:42 PM |
#67 |
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Christians or christians |
quarbis |
Jan-07-11 06:59 PM |
#68 |
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I am a |
quarbis |
Jan-07-11 07:01 PM |
#69 |
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No True Scotsman in 68 |
Goblinmonger |
Jan-07-11 07:22 PM |
#71 |
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I don't care if you want to believe in magic or not |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-07-11 07:22 PM |
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And I can name those with the fingers of ONE hand |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 09:31 PM |
#80 |
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And how many more Republicans than that |
skepticscott |
Jan-07-11 09:44 PM |
#84 |
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Far from the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 09:51 PM |
#87 |
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I said NOTHING about Americans in general |
skepticscott |
Jan-07-11 10:06 PM |
#89 |
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Well in the course of human events |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-07-11 10:09 PM |
#91 |
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That's some serious weaksauce |
Goblinmonger |
Jan-07-11 10:42 PM |
#96 |
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Since you seem determined to |
skepticscott |
Jan-08-11 07:38 AM |
#106 |
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Gay marriage ban? |
Goblinmonger |
Jan-07-11 10:40 PM |
#95 |
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ONE hand? Really? |
PassingFair |
Jan-08-11 11:29 AM |
#109 |
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Nice qualifier there... |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-08-11 04:45 PM |
#118 |
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I've started..... |
DeSwiss |
Jan-08-11 12:16 AM |
#102 |
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And I will tell you this |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-08-11 12:27 AM |
#103 |
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I'm not an atheist. |
DeSwiss |
Jan-08-11 03:16 AM |
#104 |
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So what is the point? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-08-11 11:43 AM |
#111 |
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You said nothing about "confronting" anyone in your original post. |
DeSwiss |
Jan-08-11 05:56 PM |
#120 |
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That quote proves Harris is a moron..... |
Sal316 |
Jan-08-11 10:27 AM |
#108 |
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And because you say it |
skepticscott |
Jan-08-11 11:32 AM |
#110 |
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is this what you truly mean to say SS? |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-11-11 10:45 AM |
#128 |
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When it is based |
skepticscott |
Jan-11-11 11:49 AM |
#130 |
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ok gotcha |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-11-11 12:56 PM |
#131 |
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Try a little thought experiment |
skepticscott |
Jan-11-11 01:06 PM |
#132 |
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ok, I don't gotcha... |
cleanhippie |
Jan-11-11 06:11 PM |
#139 |
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Yes, I do admit that |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-11-11 07:11 PM |
#140 |
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Well, if it |
skepticscott |
Jan-11-11 07:30 PM |
#141 |
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I believe reality has dualistic properties |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-11-11 09:31 PM |
#143 |
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Of course, what most people refuse to admit |
skepticscott |
Jan-12-11 04:55 PM |
#156 |
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I freely admit it is a possibility |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-12-11 07:26 PM |
#164 |
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And what you need to admit is that you really have no objective basis |
humblebum |
Jan-14-11 07:29 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-14-11 09:47 PM |
#203 |
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"Can't be physically sensed"- I think we have been here before. |
humblebum |
Jan-14-11 10:54 PM |
#206 |
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Do moderate christians really deserve a break? |
KaoriMitsubishi |
Jan-08-11 08:22 AM |
#107 |
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Do moderate anything deserve a break? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jan-08-11 11:44 AM |
#112 |
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Excellent video. TY n/t |
DeSwiss |
Jan-08-11 08:53 PM |
#121 |
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Do moderate atheists deserve a break? |
kwassa |
Jan-08-11 09:39 PM |
#122 |
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And what dogmas do these dogmatic atheists adhere to? |
darkstar3 |
Jan-08-11 11:20 PM |
#124 |
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More than that, whose rights are offended by the lack of a faith? |
varkam |
Jan-09-11 01:44 AM |
#125 |
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What dogma is that? I hear a lot of accusations like that but never can get anyone to spell it out. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-11-11 06:03 PM |
#137 |
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I can offer an answer but I think you wont/dont like it |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-11-11 09:41 PM |
#144 |
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You speak of "God" |
skepticscott |
Jan-12-11 06:55 AM |
#148 |
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I think that you nailed it. Alec is a fundamental atheist! |
cleanhippie |
Jan-12-11 11:26 AM |
#150 |
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Is that the same as a militant atheist or |
humblebum |
Jan-12-11 12:10 PM |
#153 |
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Still puzzling over the difference between |
skepticscott |
Jan-12-11 04:58 PM |
#157 |
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????? nt |
humblebum |
Jan-12-11 06:45 PM |
#161 |
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Your reply |
skepticscott |
Jan-12-11 08:19 PM |
#169 |
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I am!? |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-12-11 07:35 PM |
#166 |
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Hehe! |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 09:38 AM |
#183 |
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yes that is accurate |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-13-11 11:26 AM |
#185 |
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What does that mean? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-14-11 10:42 AM |
#199 |
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you mean this? |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-14-11 11:27 AM |
#200 |
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you raise a good point |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-12-11 07:31 PM |
#165 |
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Which cleverly dodges the real question |
skepticscott |
Jan-12-11 08:26 PM |
#170 |
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you give me too much credit SS! |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-12-11 08:52 PM |
#172 |
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Which STILL leaves the question unanswered |
skepticscott |
Jan-13-11 05:03 PM |
#188 |
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see post 185 |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-14-11 06:44 AM |
#195 |
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Nice dodge, but |
skepticscott |
Jan-14-11 09:57 PM |
#204 |
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what are you talking about? |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-15-11 09:36 AM |
#208 |
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There's a great quote about that: |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 09:29 PM |
#174 |
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Perfect. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 09:42 AM |
#184 |
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I agree. |
Jim__ |
Jan-08-11 11:47 AM |
#113 |
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And how few are |
skepticscott |
Jan-08-11 03:09 PM |
#116 |
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Where I live they are all fundies. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jan-08-11 05:07 PM |
#119 |
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Where I am very few Christians are fundies. |
kwassa |
Jan-08-11 09:41 PM |
#123 |
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To both of you: |
laconicsax |
Jan-12-11 05:49 PM |
#158 |
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Yes, it does depend on where you live, |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jan-15-11 01:44 AM |
#207 |
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I have been posting to this thread for some time now |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-12-11 07:41 PM |
#167 |
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You make a good point. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 11:28 AM |
#186 |
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I do stand up |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-14-11 07:01 AM |
#196 |
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Then I applaud your efforts. Where are the rest of those that think like you? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-14-11 10:41 AM |
#198 |
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There is firm pushback CH but its not sexy |
AlecBGreen |
Jan-15-11 09:44 AM |
#209 |
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I cannot disagree with you. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-15-11 10:32 AM |
#211 |
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