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Response to Reply #61
79. I am more than just a fan of the Power of Myth
Yep, I have.

And the power of myth has become formula for fiction these days, starting with... Star Wars.
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  -On Fundies, Christianity and DU. nadinbrzezinski  Jan-06-11 07:51 PM   #0 
  - I try to reserve my negative comments to the fundies - of any religion.  DCKit   Jan-06-11 08:16 PM   #1 
  - Realize that it is not religion  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 08:24 PM   #5 
     - You're among many people  skepticscott   Jan-07-11 09:33 PM   #81 
        - While very influential, they are not the majority  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 09:49 PM   #86 
           - Between 40 and 50% of ALL Americans  skepticscott   Jan-07-11 10:00 PM   #88 
              - I do the math and they are not  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 10:07 PM   #90 
                 - So what is your justification  skepticscott   Jan-08-11 07:32 AM   #105 
                    - My friend, the atheists' position, if there is one, is not being helped by you. nt  humblebum   Jan-11-11 09:52 AM   #127 
                       - Facts don't need "help".  PassingFair   Jan-12-11 11:59 AM   #152 
                          - The atheist position = the missionary position, with Stalin  onager   Jan-14-11 01:31 AM   #193 
                             - When we were little....  PassingFair   Jan-14-11 08:38 AM   #197 
  - What is a fundy? I am assuming you mean "fundamentalist," but what is that?  ZombieHorde   Jan-06-11 08:17 PM   #2 
  - It is number three and having met and dealt with a few  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 08:23 PM   #4 
  - There are also fundamentalist atheists  bananas   Jan-07-11 12:39 PM   #45 
     - Sure, becuase urbandictionary is accurate in any way.  darkstar3   Jan-07-11 12:57 PM   #47 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-07-11 01:03 PM   #49 
     - Ugh. THIS nonsense again?  cleanhippie   Jan-07-11 01:18 PM   #52 
        - I'm sure it was just an oversight. nt.  Mariana   Jan-07-11 05:08 PM   #63 
  - Those who not only hold strong beliefs about their behavior, but feel the need to  uppityperson   Jan-06-11 08:27 PM   #7 
  - I try to stay out of these conversations but....  Irishonly   Jan-06-11 10:29 PM   #26 
  - another online definition that more closely says how I use the word...  uppityperson   Jan-06-11 08:30 PM   #8 
  - It is #3 - which refers to dems, repugs, etc - I have found more fundies here on DU  The Straight Story   Jan-06-11 08:38 PM   #12 
  - Fundies, to me, are the biblical literalists, who literally believe that every  kestrel91316   Jan-06-11 09:43 PM   #18 
     - Trust me their Jewish counterparts are just as bad  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 10:09 PM   #25 
        - self delete. nt  raccoon   Jan-07-11 08:17 AM   #34 
        - Jews are not fundamentalists, unless they are Christianized.  immoderate   Jan-07-11 02:26 PM   #58 
           - When I think fundamentalist Jews, I picture the  Crunchy Frog   Jan-07-11 07:50 PM   #74 
           - Or my all time favorite since I got to be on the sharp end of it  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 09:45 PM   #85 
           - Jews not immune to authoritarianism.  immoderate   Jan-07-11 10:28 PM   #93 
           - You should visit a Chabad house  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 09:41 PM   #83 
              - American Jews are not the only atheists.  immoderate   Jan-07-11 10:26 PM   #92 
                 - What you have observed is the division between  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 10:36 PM   #94 
  - i usually pay no attention to those....  madrchsod   Jan-06-11 08:19 PM   #3 
  - Well as nominally a Jew I don't either  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 08:26 PM   #6 
  - .  haikugal   Jan-06-11 08:30 PM   #9 
  - Re-read the OP please  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 08:35 PM   #11 
     - I think they do...  haikugal   Jan-06-11 09:35 PM   #16 
     - Hang around here for a while  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 09:46 PM   #20 
        - OK but what about my initial response?  haikugal   Jan-06-11 10:00 PM   #22 
           - My apologies  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 10:07 PM   #24 
              - Accepted....  haikugal   Jan-07-11 12:10 AM   #28 
     - I guess I take issue with the "minority" label.  Goblinmonger   Jan-07-11 12:03 PM   #40 
  - Eloquently said. Fanatics of any color, stripe, origin, faith, etc...are dangerous.  BrklynLiberal   Jan-06-11 08:34 PM   #10 
  - I got to say my first contact  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 08:40 PM   #13 
  - Thanks for that link  BrklynLiberal   Jan-07-11 08:44 AM   #35 
  - Are you sure that is the reason?  Boojatta   Jan-14-11 10:29 PM   #205 
  - "Fundy," I like it. Fundies deny science.  Mojeoux   Jan-06-11 08:43 PM   #14 
  - And for the record, our era will be known as ...  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 08:46 PM   #15 
  - Thank you. Sometimes it can feel very threatening for anyone to  jwirr   Jan-06-11 09:41 PM   #17 
  - Well it bothers me that there is a little bullying, to put it midly  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 09:45 PM   #19 
  - And please, not the  skepticscott   Jan-07-11 09:37 PM   #82 
     - Yes you represent what you stand for quite well and most assuredly  humblebum   Jan-12-11 06:55 PM   #162 
  - ....  Goblinmonger   Jan-07-11 12:08 PM   #41 
  - Believer privilege at work. n/t  darkstar3   Jan-07-11 12:31 PM   #43 
  - "You guys" ???  bananas   Jan-07-11 01:01 PM   #48 
     - Follow the dotted line that connects his post to the parent  charlie   Jan-07-11 01:12 PM   #51 
     - Follow along here if you can.  Goblinmonger   Jan-07-11 01:53 PM   #55 
     - Oh, yeah, and btw  Goblinmonger   Jan-07-11 01:59 PM   #57 
  - Must be hard being 90% of the population and in charge of everything.  Codeine   Jan-07-11 01:26 PM   #53 
  - As long as they keep their cartoon beliefs out of government...I agree.  RagAss   Jan-06-11 09:46 PM   #21 
  - So let me ask you  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-06-11 10:06 PM   #23 
  - Believing in a deity is one thing. Believing that said deity is working through you to govern me....  RagAss   Jan-07-11 11:03 AM   #37 
     - And that is a real small but loud minority  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 11:14 AM   #39 
  - "cartoon beliefs"? What do you mean. nt  uppityperson   Jan-06-11 11:51 PM   #27 
  - K & R from a Pagan  Withywindle   Jan-07-11 02:13 AM   #29 
  - I think you have it about right.  immoderate   Jan-07-11 11:04 PM   #98 
  - K&R: Tolerance is a good thing  Mimosa   Jan-07-11 02:30 AM   #30 
  - "Moderates" just make it possible for fundies to exist  mr blur   Jan-07-11 02:57 AM   #31 
  - My fellow Tom Verlaine fan, it's really not that simple.  Withywindle   Jan-07-11 03:08 AM   #32 
  - So where does tolerance of others fit into your worldview?  bighart   Jan-07-11 05:54 AM   #33 
  - "Tolerance" ends  skepticscott   Jan-08-11 03:12 PM   #117 
  - I will offer to you two free clues  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 11:13 AM   #38 
     - ^ Good clues, too ^  Mimosa   Jan-07-11 03:26 PM   #61 
     - I am more than just a fan of the Power of Myth  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 09:11 PM   #79 
     - Note though that all religions have proscriptions for heretics.  immoderate   Jan-07-11 11:08 PM   #99 
  - 76% of people in the US are Christian  Nye Bevan   Jan-07-11 09:00 AM   #36 
  - Only 16% believe  Goblinmonger   Jan-07-11 01:58 PM   #56 
     - So Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Dennis Kucinich, Ted Kennedy, John Paul Stevens, Howard Dean,  Nye Bevan   Jan-07-11 03:26 PM   #60 
        - Red Herring Fail.  Goblinmonger   Jan-07-11 07:21 PM   #70 
           - Definitely not a red herring, but a necessary straw man and  humblebum   Jan-11-11 09:45 AM   #126 
              - Straw men are logical fallacies and therefore never necessary.  darkstar3   Jan-11-11 11:45 AM   #129 
                 - They're absolutely necessary for him.  trotsky   Jan-11-11 03:53 PM   #133 
                    - Always such constructive replies. And yes there are times when strawmen are  humblebum   Jan-11-11 05:31 PM   #134 
                       - Seriously?  darkstar3   Jan-11-11 05:45 PM   #135 
                       - It's from a page that opens with:  laconicsax   Jan-11-11 05:58 PM   #136 
                          - I don't think he's the only one who uses that site.  darkstar3   Jan-11-11 06:04 PM   #138 
                          - This is the source. One of several.  humblebum   Jan-12-11 11:38 AM   #151 
                             - That's the same site I linked to.  laconicsax   Jan-12-11 03:06 PM   #155 
                                - Perfectly legitimate scholarly website. It just makes you look incompetent, but  humblebum   Jan-12-11 06:36 PM   #160 
                                   - That's quite a loose definition of "scholarly website."  laconicsax   Jan-12-11 07:02 PM   #163 
                                      - The man's Curriculum Vitae would indicate that you really are  humblebum   Jan-12-11 08:06 PM   #168 
                                         - Where in his CV does it mention his degree in philosophy?  laconicsax   Jan-12-11 08:51 PM   #171 
                                            - A degree in philosophy is hardly a requirement for scholarly debate.  humblebum   Jan-12-11 10:05 PM   #175 
                                               - Whose argument am I evading? It certainly isn't yours.  laconicsax   Jan-12-11 10:31 PM   #176 
                                                  - Don't look now but you just did it again. nt  humblebum   Jan-12-11 10:40 PM   #177 
                                                  - Do you know what "nt" means?  laconicsax   Jan-13-11 12:14 AM   #178 
                                                  - In this case I think here it means nice try, but you are out of touch with the real world.  humblebum   Jan-13-11 12:47 AM   #179 
                                                  - Sigh...more of the same fallacy.  laconicsax   Jan-13-11 01:23 AM   #181 
                                                  - I think the only criteria was christians, period. And that thing you call the big lie  humblebum   Jan-13-11 02:31 AM   #182 
                                                  - Well, since it's been refuted by that criteria, I expect you'll be admitting error any minute now...  laconicsax   Jan-13-11 05:04 PM   #189 
                                                  - Well, since you stumbled a couple times to finally identify the proper criteria  humblebum   Jan-13-11 06:00 PM   #191 
                                                  - I accept your apology. n/t  laconicsax   Jan-13-11 06:11 PM   #192 
                                                  - Great dodge. nt  humblebum   Jan-14-11 02:38 AM   #194 
                                                  - I think at this point it might be best not to feed it.  darkstar3   Jan-13-11 01:03 AM   #180 
                                                  - He wants more rope, and I'm a generous person.  laconicsax   Jan-13-11 04:02 PM   #187 
                       - Ha ha ha ha ha  trotsky   Jan-11-11 08:19 PM   #142 
                          - Well, I would say that further justifies my assertion. Actually, in debate  humblebum   Jan-11-11 10:09 PM   #145 
                             - Only for those who cannot defend their points any other way, as admitted even on that site.  darkstar3   Jan-11-11 10:19 PM   #146 
                             - Just like how taking steroids is a useful and acceptable method of winning athletic competitions.  laconicsax   Jan-12-11 12:34 AM   #147 
                                - Now that is most definitely a straw man fallacy, however when  humblebum   Jan-12-11 10:28 AM   #149 
                                   - You are absolutely wrong. Here's why:  laconicsax   Jan-12-11 03:05 PM   #154 
                                      - Way to rationalize, but what you refer to as "dishonest tactics" are  humblebum   Jan-12-11 06:30 PM   #159 
                                         - Wrong, and wrong again.  laconicsax   Jan-12-11 09:16 PM   #173 
                                         - BOOKMARKING!!!!! Priceless quotes!  cleanhippie   Jan-13-11 05:57 PM   #190 
                                            - The quotes also haven't a thing to do with the subject referenced.  humblebum   Jan-14-11 04:12 PM   #201 
                                               - Hahahahahaha! Nice try, but no cigar.  cleanhippie   Jan-15-11 10:30 AM   #210 
  - I'll try to remember that  GeorgeGist   Jan-07-11 12:11 PM   #42 
  - In principle most do actually  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 12:37 PM   #44 
  - We're not them, we're better!  darkstar3   Jan-07-11 12:56 PM   #46 
  - ...  trotsky   Jan-07-11 01:08 PM   #50 
  - So Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Dennis Kucinich, Ted Kennedy, John Paul Stevens, Howard Dean,  Nye Bevan   Jan-07-11 03:21 PM   #59 
     - Your overused fallacy deserves only one response.  darkstar3   Jan-07-11 04:49 PM   #62 
        - That's a great smilie. But one of the following two statements has to be true, doesn't it?  Nye Bevan   Jan-07-11 05:48 PM   #64 
           - FYI, you totally missed the point of ds3's post.  trotsky   Jan-07-11 06:16 PM   #65 
           - Sorry, my mistake.  Nye Bevan   Jan-07-11 07:37 PM   #73 
              - So I guess you are just choosing to miss the point.  trotsky   Jan-07-11 08:23 PM   #76 
                 - I only have one response to avoid tough questions.  Nye Bevan   Jan-07-11 08:52 PM   #77 
                    - I'm sure Jesus is proud of you. n/t  trotsky   Jan-07-11 08:55 PM   #78 
           - Oh, no, you've painted me into a corner!  darkstar3   Jan-07-11 10:54 PM   #97 
              - Would you consider casting your vote for a neo-fundie in a presidential election? (nt)  Nye Bevan   Jan-07-11 11:15 PM   #100 
                 - I would ask:  darkstar3   Jan-07-11 11:41 PM   #101 
                    - I would say:  Nye Bevan   Jan-08-11 01:42 PM   #114 
                       - A simple "no" would have sufficed. n/t  darkstar3   Jan-08-11 02:38 PM   #115 
  - Moderates perpetuate and legitimize the blithering nonsense  Codeine   Jan-07-11 01:31 PM   #54 
  - This atheist rec's this. n/t  GOPBasher   Jan-07-11 06:35 PM   #66 
  - This Buddhist rec's this also. n/t  AsahinaKimi   Jan-07-11 07:51 PM   #75 
  - Thank you!  wryter2000   Jan-07-11 06:42 PM   #67 
  - Christians or christians  quarbis   Jan-07-11 06:59 PM   #68 
  - I am a  quarbis   Jan-07-11 07:01 PM   #69 
  - No True Scotsman in 68  Goblinmonger   Jan-07-11 07:22 PM   #71 
  - I don't care if you want to believe in magic or not  Atypical Liberal   Jan-07-11 07:22 PM   #72 
  - And I can name those with the fingers of ONE hand  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 09:31 PM   #80 
     - And how many more Republicans than that  skepticscott   Jan-07-11 09:44 PM   #84 
     - Far from the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 09:51 PM   #87 
        - I said NOTHING about Americans in general  skepticscott   Jan-07-11 10:06 PM   #89 
           - Well in the course of human events  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-07-11 10:09 PM   #91 
              - That's some serious weaksauce  Goblinmonger   Jan-07-11 10:42 PM   #96 
              - Since you seem determined to  skepticscott   Jan-08-11 07:38 AM   #106 
     - Gay marriage ban?  Goblinmonger   Jan-07-11 10:40 PM   #95 
     - ONE hand? Really?  PassingFair   Jan-08-11 11:29 AM   #109 
     - Nice qualifier there...  Atypical Liberal   Jan-08-11 04:45 PM   #118 
  - I've started.....  DeSwiss   Jan-08-11 12:16 AM   #102 
  - And I will tell you this  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-08-11 12:27 AM   #103 
  - I'm not an atheist.  DeSwiss   Jan-08-11 03:16 AM   #104 
     - So what is the point?  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-08-11 11:43 AM   #111 
        - You said nothing about "confronting" anyone in your original post.  DeSwiss   Jan-08-11 05:56 PM   #120 
  - That quote proves Harris is a moron.....  Sal316   Jan-08-11 10:27 AM   #108 
     - And because you say it  skepticscott   Jan-08-11 11:32 AM   #110 
        - is this what you truly mean to say SS?  AlecBGreen   Jan-11-11 10:45 AM   #128 
           - When it is based  skepticscott   Jan-11-11 11:49 AM   #130 
              - ok gotcha  AlecBGreen   Jan-11-11 12:56 PM   #131 
                 - Try a little thought experiment  skepticscott   Jan-11-11 01:06 PM   #132 
                 - ok, I don't gotcha...  cleanhippie   Jan-11-11 06:11 PM   #139 
                    - Yes, I do admit that  AlecBGreen   Jan-11-11 07:11 PM   #140 
                       - Well, if it  skepticscott   Jan-11-11 07:30 PM   #141 
                          - I believe reality has dualistic properties  AlecBGreen   Jan-11-11 09:31 PM   #143 
                             - Of course, what most people refuse to admit  skepticscott   Jan-12-11 04:55 PM   #156 
                                - I freely admit it is a possibility  AlecBGreen   Jan-12-11 07:26 PM   #164 
                                - And what you need to admit is that you really have no objective basis  humblebum   Jan-14-11 07:29 PM   #202 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-14-11 09:47 PM   #203 
                                      - "Can't be physically sensed"- I think we have been here before.  humblebum   Jan-14-11 10:54 PM   #206 
  - Do moderate christians really deserve a break?  KaoriMitsubishi   Jan-08-11 08:22 AM   #107 
  - Do moderate anything deserve a break?  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-08-11 11:44 AM   #112 
  - Excellent video. TY n/t  DeSwiss   Jan-08-11 08:53 PM   #121 
  - Do moderate atheists deserve a break?  kwassa   Jan-08-11 09:39 PM   #122 
     - And what dogmas do these dogmatic atheists adhere to?  darkstar3   Jan-08-11 11:20 PM   #124 
     - More than that, whose rights are offended by the lack of a faith?  varkam   Jan-09-11 01:44 AM   #125 
     - What dogma is that? I hear a lot of accusations like that but never can get anyone to spell it out.  cleanhippie   Jan-11-11 06:03 PM   #137 
        - I can offer an answer but I think you wont/dont like it  AlecBGreen   Jan-11-11 09:41 PM   #144 
           - You speak of "God"  skepticscott   Jan-12-11 06:55 AM   #148 
              - I think that you nailed it. Alec is a fundamental atheist!  cleanhippie   Jan-12-11 11:26 AM   #150 
              - Is that the same as a militant atheist or  humblebum   Jan-12-11 12:10 PM   #153 
              - Still puzzling over the difference between  skepticscott   Jan-12-11 04:58 PM   #157 
                 - ????? nt  humblebum   Jan-12-11 06:45 PM   #161 
                    - Your reply  skepticscott   Jan-12-11 08:19 PM   #169 
              - I am!?  AlecBGreen   Jan-12-11 07:35 PM   #166 
                 - Hehe!  cleanhippie   Jan-13-11 09:38 AM   #183 
                    - yes that is accurate  AlecBGreen   Jan-13-11 11:26 AM   #185 
                       - What does that mean?  cleanhippie   Jan-14-11 10:42 AM   #199 
                          - you mean this?  AlecBGreen   Jan-14-11 11:27 AM   #200 
              - you raise a good point  AlecBGreen   Jan-12-11 07:31 PM   #165 
                 - Which cleverly dodges the real question  skepticscott   Jan-12-11 08:26 PM   #170 
                 - you give me too much credit SS!  AlecBGreen   Jan-12-11 08:52 PM   #172 
                    - Which STILL leaves the question unanswered  skepticscott   Jan-13-11 05:03 PM   #188 
                       - see post 185  AlecBGreen   Jan-14-11 06:44 AM   #195 
                          - Nice dodge, but  skepticscott   Jan-14-11 09:57 PM   #204 
                             - what are you talking about?  AlecBGreen   Jan-15-11 09:36 AM   #208 
                 - There's a great quote about that:  laconicsax   Jan-12-11 09:29 PM   #174 
                    - Perfect.  cleanhippie   Jan-13-11 09:42 AM   #184 
  - I agree.  Jim__   Jan-08-11 11:47 AM   #113 
  - And how few are  skepticscott   Jan-08-11 03:09 PM   #116 
  - Where I live they are all fundies.  Manifestor_of_Light   Jan-08-11 05:07 PM   #119 
  - Where I am very few Christians are fundies.  kwassa   Jan-08-11 09:41 PM   #123 
     - To both of you:  laconicsax   Jan-12-11 05:49 PM   #158 
        - Yes, it does depend on where you live,  Manifestor_of_Light   Jan-15-11 01:44 AM   #207 
  - I have been posting to this thread for some time now  AlecBGreen   Jan-12-11 07:41 PM   #167 
     - You make a good point.  cleanhippie   Jan-13-11 11:28 AM   #186 
        - I do stand up  AlecBGreen   Jan-14-11 07:01 AM   #196 
           - Then I applaud your efforts. Where are the rest of those that think like you?  cleanhippie   Jan-14-11 10:41 AM   #198 
              - There is firm pushback CH but its not sexy  AlecBGreen   Jan-15-11 09:44 AM   #209 
                 - I cannot disagree with you.  cleanhippie   Jan-15-11 10:32 AM   #211 
 

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