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| -"Jesus" Inspired Ghandi & MLK. Atheists - What Have You Got to Match That? |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 10:53 AM |
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Gandhi was actually Hindu and appealed to the Gita |
struggle4progress |
Dec-01-10 10:56 AM |
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Gandhi was a Hindu |
H2O Man |
Dec-01-10 10:57 AM |
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*Really*? |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 10:59 AM |
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Actually, Gandhi |
H2O Man |
Dec-01-10 12:02 PM |
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The he was ignorant in that regard |
Goblinmonger |
Dec-01-10 12:05 PM |
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Ha! |
H2O Man |
Dec-01-10 12:14 PM |
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My point is that it is all mythology |
Goblinmonger |
Dec-01-10 12:23 PM |
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Questions regarding |
H2O Man |
Dec-01-10 12:32 PM |
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Myths can be inspirational too... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-01-10 01:49 PM |
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Well That's Even More Concrete |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 12:08 PM |
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Gandhi very pointedly and deliberately remained Hindu. There seems to be no question |
struggle4progress |
Dec-01-10 04:48 PM |
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True, but he also was influenced by tenets of Christianity and other religions n/t |
deutsey |
Dec-01-10 01:19 PM |
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He was also influenced by Atheists. Cripes, his second in command, Nehru... |
PassingFair |
Dec-02-10 08:16 AM |
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Right, he was very much Vedantic in his worldview, imo. |
deutsey |
Dec-02-10 08:21 AM |
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Nothing, perhaps it should be mandatory that everyone be theists.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-01-10 10:59 AM |
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Or Maybe ... |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 11:01 AM |
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That goes both ways. nt |
TBF |
Dec-01-10 11:02 AM |
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Are you saying you're a Christian? |
JuniperLea |
Dec-01-10 11:07 AM |
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And some of us have had enough of theism proponent's ridiculous belief.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-01-10 11:07 AM |
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You poor, persecuted Christian! |
EOTE |
Dec-01-10 11:16 AM |
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Lashing out at imaginary militant atheists? |
Edweird |
Dec-01-10 11:19 AM |
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Amen to that |
kctim |
Dec-01-10 11:20 AM |
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Quick question for you. |
EOTE |
Dec-01-10 11:25 AM |
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I Just Might |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 11:37 AM |
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Who the fuck is crowing about anything? |
EOTE |
Dec-01-10 11:40 AM |
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Hey! Ix-nay on the illboards-bay! |
trotsky |
Dec-01-10 11:51 AM |
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You're missing a step there. |
EOTE |
Dec-01-10 12:01 PM |
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forgot steps 4 and 5... |
SidDithers |
Dec-01-10 12:16 PM |
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Profit? maybe. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-01-10 12:41 PM |
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It's strange that you focus on the hubris of some atheists. Isn't it more |
mudplanet |
Dec-01-10 11:48 AM |
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Heh. ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! |
Zoeisright |
Dec-01-10 12:24 PM |
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Uh, atheists don't have belief. Thats what makes them atheists. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-01-10 12:38 PM |
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Some of us are tired as hell of the stereotypes pushed by the right...and a few on the left.... |
tpsbmam |
Dec-01-10 12:45 PM |
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If you believe in magic, it's not my fault that I think it's stupid. n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-01-10 01:48 PM |
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Jesus also inspired... |
Ozymanithrax |
Dec-01-10 11:02 AM |
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Inspiration? Or Excuse? |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 11:07 AM |
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They are Christians inspired by the Christian message... |
Ozymanithrax |
Dec-01-10 11:16 AM |
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Here's one for you... |
Flubadubya |
Dec-01-10 11:20 AM |
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Check out Secular humanism... |
Ozymanithrax |
Dec-01-10 11:20 AM |
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Start looking through this list.. |
sinkingfeeling |
Dec-01-10 11:51 AM |
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Pastors told the puritans who migrated that god had cleared the land for them |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 01:56 PM |
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False. Absolutely False |
demwing |
Dec-18-10 07:41 PM |
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Jesus inspired countless wars... |
joeybee12 |
Dec-01-10 11:03 AM |
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Um, weren't the communists atheists? |
originalpckelly |
Dec-01-10 12:06 PM |
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Did they actually fight OVER that? nt |
joeybee12 |
Dec-01-10 12:31 PM |
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Communism was a state religion in a way. |
MedicalAdmin |
Dec-01-10 12:43 PM |
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Jesus also inspired the Inbquisition, the Crusades, the Salem Witch trials, |
Speck Tater |
Dec-01-10 11:03 AM |
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Oh, c'mon, Jesus was the first recorded Captain Deathwish. You really think Nietzsche |
bluetrain |
Dec-01-10 11:04 AM |
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LOL |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 12:19 PM |
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James Randi |
TlalocW |
Dec-01-10 11:04 AM |
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James Randi - the original "to catch a thief" |
MedicalAdmin |
Dec-01-10 12:51 PM |
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Well, it is technically a non-profit foundation he's running... and |
TlalocW |
Dec-01-10 01:01 PM |
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Why be a fan of someone who's life's work is promoting truth and rationality? |
immoderate |
Dec-19-10 04:32 PM |
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I'm inspired by Frodo Baggins, who, like Jesus... |
SidDithers |
Dec-01-10 11:04 AM |
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Heh! Sid, I swear you are a kin to my pal... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-01-10 11:09 AM |
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Any friend of yours... |
SidDithers |
Dec-01-10 11:10 AM |
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All those guys... and Rumi... and Mother Theresa... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-01-10 11:04 AM |
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The Deeper Question |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 12:30 PM |
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Greeks and Romans inspired the founders of the U.S. |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 01:43 PM |
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They Weren't Known |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 02:00 PM |
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They also didn't create the American revolution |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 02:36 PM |
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If you wanted an answer to your "deeper question" |
JuniperLea |
Dec-01-10 01:47 PM |
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It Was Already There |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 02:02 PM |
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So you want people to "read into" your OP? |
JuniperLea |
Dec-01-10 04:03 PM |
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Uh, did you forget about |
skepticscott |
Dec-02-10 08:21 PM |
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All of humanity? |
eShirl |
Dec-01-10 11:05 AM |
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I think your point is |
BoneDaddy |
Dec-01-10 11:05 AM |
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Basically |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 11:23 AM |
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What was the Enlightenment then? Chopped liver? |
BurtWorm |
Dec-01-10 11:06 AM |
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Dec-01-10 12:30 PM |
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The OP is so full of FAIL and IGNORANCE.... |
PassingFair |
Dec-02-10 08:33 AM |
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Nice try |
Amaril |
Dec-01-10 11:07 AM |
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Some more -- influential thinkers and leaders... |
Brickbat |
Dec-01-10 11:16 AM |
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Einstein Was Not An Atheist |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 11:17 AM |
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Do you mean like Lenin? Also, religion or the inspiration of Jesus is not the only reason people |
Brickbat |
Dec-01-10 11:22 AM |
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Einstein most certainly was not a religious believer |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 11:24 AM |
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Einstein Was a Tease |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 12:33 PM |
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He definitively stated that he thought the bible was like a fairytale for children |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 01:30 PM |
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My understanding is that he was a Diest... |
Township75 |
Dec-01-10 02:09 PM |
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That's About the Best I've Found |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 02:29 PM |
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Boudicca. nt |
enlightenment |
Dec-01-10 01:49 PM |
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The Enlightenment. American Democracy. The French Revolution |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 11:08 AM |
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Albert Einstein |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 11:11 AM |
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was not an aethist... |
Township75 |
Dec-01-10 01:52 PM |
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Not quite. "My religion", he said, "consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-02-10 09:48 AM |
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re the susceptibiilty of light to refraction, absorption, etc, well, it does |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-02-10 06:38 PM |
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Perhaps you'd like to expound on this: |
darkstar3 |
Dec-02-10 07:05 PM |
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Dec-03-10 08:20 AM |
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Try me. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-03-10 08:28 AM |
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If you want to learn about the Cosmic Christ, read the books of the |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-03-10 08:50 AM |
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Ah yes, the "last word" for a Christian. |
trotsky |
Dec-03-10 08:54 AM |
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Dec-03-10 09:31 AM |
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Yes, I can plainly see that you are anticipating with glee... |
trotsky |
Dec-03-10 10:32 AM |
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Non-sequitur. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-03-10 09:00 AM |
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Dec-03-10 09:09 AM |
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Dec-03-10 09:30 AM |
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Wiki isn't a trustworthy source of info, nor is it a textbook. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-03-10 09:40 AM |
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Dec-03-10 10:28 AM |
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Ignoring your insulting attack on atheists, I say: |
darkstar3 |
Dec-03-10 10:38 AM |
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Tell me, why does light always hit the earth's surface at its constant speed, |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-03-10 11:35 AM |
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Now you're confusing tolerances in precision of measurement with constancy. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-03-10 11:51 AM |
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You get so many posts deleted because you engage in foul personal attacks. |
trotsky |
Dec-03-10 08:31 AM |
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I see posts by atheists on here virtually every day, sneering at Christianity, and. |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-03-10 08:48 AM |
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But they are not personal attacks. |
trotsky |
Dec-03-10 08:53 AM |
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And if you simply want to talk about "fighting off the man" |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 11:13 AM |
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Yeah That Worked Out Pretty Well For Stalin |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 11:50 AM |
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Working for the greater good is an irrational act? What the? |
Brickbat |
Dec-01-10 12:21 PM |
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Stalin arguably did more for India's independence than Gandhi |
JVS |
Dec-01-10 12:29 PM |
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the question was - when did a group "stand up to the man" |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 01:32 PM |
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Humanists may draw from all moral philosophy. We get everybody! |
jpgray |
Dec-01-10 11:13 AM |
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I'll take the Founding Fathers for $100. |
sinkingfeeling |
Dec-01-10 11:15 AM |
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Incredible, huh, that so many Americans cannot even seem to connect |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 11:17 AM |
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Deists |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 11:17 AM |
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Jefferson did not believe in god |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 11:19 AM |
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The founders were Deists because it was before Darwin, they thought a creator was needed. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-18-10 11:41 PM |
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It's not Christianity either. |
BurtWorm |
Dec-01-10 11:30 AM |
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As far as divine inspiration goes, Deists get the same as Athesits |
LostInAnomie |
Dec-01-10 01:59 PM |
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Atheists don't believe in a god or "Intelligent Design", i.e. Einstein's "illimitable, superior |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-02-10 09:52 AM |
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Einstein's "illimitable, superior spirit" could easily be nothing more than energy, |
darkstar3 |
Dec-02-10 09:55 AM |
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You mean, "energy with a brain". Hadn't thought of that. Can't think why. |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-02-10 10:46 AM |
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A laughable claim, unless of course you can prove the following: |
darkstar3 |
Dec-02-10 11:21 AM |
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A and B are pure cretinism. As for C, you've already forgotten the |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-02-10 11:47 AM |
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Cretinism? What an awful dodge. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-02-10 11:52 AM |
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Dec-02-10 01:01 PM |
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When's the last time an atheist murdered a doctor or bombed a doctor's office due to their beliefs? |
Edweird |
Dec-01-10 11:17 AM |
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+1 |
AndrewP |
Dec-01-10 12:09 PM |
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+1000000000 |
Zoeisright |
Dec-01-10 12:28 PM |
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Pragmatist at best? |
Vinnie From Indy |
Dec-01-10 11:17 AM |
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Should Have Read |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 12:37 PM |
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whoa. that;'s some flawed reasoning. |
cali |
Dec-01-10 11:18 AM |
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Sci-fi books inspire scientists to create new technology. |
mkultra |
Dec-01-10 11:21 AM |
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So is your point that we should tell people to believe in Jesus even if we don't? |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-01-10 11:21 AM |
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Aqua Buddha! |
Enrique |
Dec-01-10 11:25 AM |
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LOL... |
Rebubula |
Dec-01-10 11:29 AM |
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So what? |
trotsky |
Dec-01-10 11:33 AM |
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why is this crapfest not in the religion forum? |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-01-10 11:36 AM |
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It's bait. |
mudplanet |
Dec-01-10 11:52 AM |
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"Go away! Baitin'!" |
gmoney |
Dec-01-10 01:24 PM |
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Rompin' Ronnie Hawkins?..nt |
SidDithers |
Dec-01-10 12:09 PM |
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"jesus" may inspire atheists as well. |
montanto |
Dec-01-10 11:42 AM |
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Jainism inspired them |
Juche |
Dec-01-10 11:53 AM |
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Isaac Asimov, Carl Sagan, and, of course, |
hfojvt |
Dec-01-10 11:54 AM |
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See Anyone Stand Up to a Police Baton For Them? |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 12:12 PM |
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While not all are non-theists how many Left Union supporters have stood up to a baton? |
JanMichael |
Dec-01-10 12:25 PM |
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Northern western Europe is socialist - i.e. Marxist - with a mixed economy |
RainDog |
Dec-01-10 02:11 PM |
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I commend you for starting this discussion. |
Renew Deal |
Dec-01-10 11:54 AM |
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Yeah, Well |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 12:11 PM |
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You were a Clinton supporter? |
Renew Deal |
Dec-01-10 12:34 PM |
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This isn't a discussion, it's stupid flamebait. n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-01-10 12:49 PM |
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No more than other similar threads on DU. |
Renew Deal |
Dec-01-10 01:08 PM |
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+1 |
darkstar3 |
Dec-01-10 02:13 PM |
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Me! |
sammytko |
Dec-01-10 11:59 AM |
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It wasn't Jesus, it was Thoreau. |
Goblinmonger |
Dec-01-10 12:04 PM |
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I'd say Leo Tolstoy more so...nt |
joeybee12 |
Dec-01-10 12:40 PM |
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It is not WHAT you believe in religiously/spiritually, but what you DO with it |
uppityperson |
Dec-01-10 12:20 PM |
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Amen. |
emilyg |
Dec-01-10 12:27 PM |
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Marx was an atheist and he inspired a lot of people to kick some oppressive ass. |
JVS |
Dec-01-10 12:26 PM |
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As Noted Upthread |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 12:48 PM |
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If you think Marxism isn't hacking it, then non-violence is certainly not hacking it. |
JVS |
Dec-01-10 12:52 PM |
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Marx has a uniquely religious way of view the world |
FamousBlueRaincoat |
Dec-02-10 09:11 PM |
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Geez, religious people are defensive. |
Evoman |
Dec-01-10 12:32 PM |
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The cognitive dissonance of knowing that they believe in magical sky-daddies |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-01-10 12:35 PM |
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It's all quite interesting. |
Evoman |
Dec-01-10 12:40 PM |
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Unlike such unfailingly kind and polite people like you. nt |
uppityperson |
Dec-01-10 12:45 PM |
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Let's compare the two: |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-01-10 12:48 PM |
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It starts with snarky comments, next thing you know, you're writing books. |
Evoman |
Dec-01-10 12:52 PM |
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Bad things have been done by fundamentalists of all types and in the name of many religions |
uppityperson |
Dec-01-10 01:04 PM |
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Imaginary figures have "inspired" lots of things. |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-01-10 12:33 PM |
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Jesus is something totally different from American Christianity. |
mmonk |
Dec-01-10 12:36 PM |
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You nailed it... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-01-10 01:53 PM |
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Not worshipping Athene has doomed humanity. nt |
athenasatanjesus |
Dec-01-10 12:40 PM |
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Dr. Jonas Salk. |
RadiationTherapy |
Dec-01-10 12:45 PM |
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"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." |
babydollhead |
Dec-01-10 12:47 PM |
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You are making an argument for religion as a form of inspiration |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-01-10 12:48 PM |
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"Doesn't mean Santa Claus is real. " |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-01-10 12:50 PM |
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What???? |
Forkboy |
Dec-01-10 12:50 PM |
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lol! |
Vickers |
Dec-01-10 01:07 PM |
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So? |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 01:12 PM |
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So? People blow themselves up for Allah. |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-01-10 01:17 PM |
#129 |
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And Yet |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 02:58 PM |
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So you're saying we should fool the masses into believing |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-01-10 03:41 PM |
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I think that may be the point the OP is trying to make. |
Township75 |
Dec-01-10 02:00 PM |
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Shhhhhh |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 02:03 PM |
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I disagree with the premise of the OP |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-01-10 02:15 PM |
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All religion oppresses women |
ismnotwasm |
Dec-01-10 12:49 PM |
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Here ya go. Enjoy. You can stop with the nonsense now. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-01-10 12:50 PM |
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Turtle Island |
Tsiyu |
Dec-01-10 12:58 PM |
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So you come up with 2 figures who were inspired by the Christian Messiah |
pink-o |
Dec-01-10 12:58 PM |
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A Xerox of my butt cheeks. n/t |
Vickers |
Dec-01-10 01:02 PM |
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Nice flame bait... |
ProudDad |
Dec-01-10 01:03 PM |
#124 |
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Why can't you guys settle this in a more civilized manner? |
MilesColtrane |
Dec-01-10 01:19 PM |
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Perhaps the Super Best Friends could help decide. |
EOTE |
Dec-01-10 01:24 PM |
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I can't watch that at work, but remember that show... |
Township75 |
Dec-01-10 02:11 PM |
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Your memory serves, except the fire came from his hands and not his breath. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-01-10 02:21 PM |
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Thanks. |
Township75 |
Dec-01-10 02:23 PM |
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Your memory is pretty good. |
EOTE |
Dec-01-10 02:32 PM |
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No they didn't! |
darkstar3 |
Dec-01-10 02:34 PM |
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My bad, I didn't realize that the controversy had time to ramp up. |
EOTE |
Dec-01-10 02:47 PM |
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How can you get inspiration from nothing? |
darkstar3 |
Dec-01-10 01:40 PM |
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Haven't those atheist writers heard of... |
Township75 |
Dec-01-10 02:01 PM |
#151 |
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False equivalency. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-01-10 02:16 PM |
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I disagree. |
Township75 |
Dec-01-10 02:21 PM |
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I was part of that movement, bumper sticker and all, and I can tell you that you are wrong. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-01-10 02:24 PM |
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99% of those on DU were part of that movement... |
Township75 |
Dec-01-10 02:47 PM |
#169 |
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But in order to make that response, you are creating a falsehood. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-01-10 03:01 PM |
#172 |
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"anybody" does not equal "nobody" |
MNBrewer |
Dec-01-10 04:24 PM |
#175 |
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And It Was Ultimately Unsuccessful |
NashVegas |
Dec-01-10 05:11 PM |
#177 |
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There are plenty of theistic alternatives to Jesus. |
Deep13 |
Dec-02-10 11:43 AM |
#188 |
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We will never know because so many are closeted. |
newportdadde |
Dec-01-10 01:47 PM |
#139 |
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"Jesus" inspired Hitler |
MNBrewer |
Dec-01-10 01:49 PM |
#142 |
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We don't need a human sacrifice to confirm our morality. |
IRemember |
Dec-01-10 01:51 PM |
#144 |
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I get my inspiration from Science and natural processes. |
Lucian |
Dec-01-10 02:14 PM |
#158 |
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Some wise soul already picked Buddha, so I'm going Socrates. |
dimbear |
Dec-01-10 06:49 PM |
#178 |
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Is this a contest? |
Deep13 |
Dec-02-10 11:39 AM |
#187 |
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If Jesus was alive today... |
greendog |
Dec-02-10 04:09 PM |
#193 |
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Gandhi wasn't a Christian; he was a Hindu |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-03-10 06:47 AM |
#198 |
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Tom Paine. Albert Eistein. Carl Sagan. Siddhartha Gautama. Socrates. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-18-10 11:38 PM |
#217 |