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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:59 AM
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14. Did you consider yourself a believer before age 20?
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  -Definitions BurtWorm  Oct-14-10 10:18 AM   #0 
  - G O D  BeFree   Oct-14-10 10:26 AM   #1 
  - I can't agree with your use of the word "necessary."  MineralMan   Oct-14-10 10:37 AM   #2 
  - I agree with you, but these definitions are meant to clarify a disagreement between  BurtWorm   Oct-14-10 11:15 AM   #9 
     - I'm afraid that the intent is not clear, nor your definitions.  MineralMan   Oct-14-10 11:19 AM   #10 
        - I see what you're saying.  BurtWorm   Oct-14-10 11:37 AM   #12 
           - Why am I an atheist?  MineralMan   Oct-14-10 11:54 AM   #13 
              - Did you consider yourself a believer before age 20?  BurtWorm   Oct-14-10 11:59 AM   #14 
                 - Before I was 20, I was a child. Children believe all sorts of things.  MineralMan   Oct-14-10 12:04 PM   #15 
                    - Not fully satisfactory, no. Sorry.  BurtWorm   Oct-14-10 12:30 PM   #18 
  - Your definitions of atheist and agnostic are the same thing.  trotsky   Oct-14-10 10:47 AM   #3 
  - Well I guess the question is necessary for what or whom?  BurtWorm   Oct-14-10 10:57 AM   #4 
  - I think your views are closer to mine, but ...  damntexdem   Oct-14-10 11:03 AM   #7 
  - I guess my definitions are meant to entail more or less rational belief.  BurtWorm   Oct-14-10 11:10 AM   #8 
  - Yeah now I'm leaning towards them not being useful definitions.  trotsky   Oct-14-10 12:27 PM   #16 
  - No, for any moment they WE are unsure about the necessity, we have no belief in the necessity.  damntexdem   Oct-14-10 10:59 AM   #6 
     - That just shifts the definitions one step.  trotsky   Oct-14-10 12:29 PM   #17 
        - I like those better than my definitions  BurtWorm   Oct-14-10 01:08 PM   #19 
        - Almost. IMO much depends on the definition of "God"  GliderGuider   Oct-14-10 02:16 PM   #20 
  - I reject your definitions.  damntexdem   Oct-14-10 10:57 AM   #5 
  - 'Hard agnostic: someone who believes that humans cannot know whether or not there is a god ...'  BurtWorm   Oct-14-10 11:27 AM   #11 
     - I am also thinking out loud  Meshuga   Oct-15-10 06:24 PM   #24 
  - How can I have decided belief in God isn't necessary when God cannot be defined?  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-10 05:22 PM   #21 
     - I was just thinking out loud.  BurtWorm   Oct-15-10 05:25 PM   #22 
        - I'm with John,  beam me up scottie   Oct-15-10 05:44 PM   #23 

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