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Mon Sep-13-10 05:55 PM
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Edited on Mon Sep-13-10 06:05 PM by Cherchez la Femme
1 Cor. 15 15More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. --New International Version King James Version: 15More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. I don't see the Latin Vulgate or the Douay Reims in my bible websites, sorry can't give you the Catholic Version. As for the other men who were with Saul on the Damascus Road -- did they actually SEE Him or just hear the 'Why do you persecute me' line? Edit: Here are the verses, Acts 9:3-9 (emphasis mine) As he (Saul - my addition) neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?"
"Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked.
"I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied. "Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do."
The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything.
– Acts 9:3-9, New International Version Point me to the Chapter & Verse where Saul/Paul (depending on what day) says he "met" (not even "saw", not simply 'encountered'; which is much more correct) Jesus.
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| -This quote from the Qur'an encourages violence |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 12:27 PM |
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If he was burning bibles it wouldn't have even been covered at all. |
cleveramerican |
Sep-10-10 12:30 PM |
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You're kidding, right? |
Warpy |
Sep-10-10 12:33 PM |
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I disagree |
cleveramerican |
Sep-10-10 12:35 PM |
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Pretty much |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-10-10 03:51 PM |
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Seriously? |
cleanhippie |
Sep-10-10 12:57 PM |
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I doubt there would be rioting |
Abq_Sarah |
Sep-10-10 01:24 PM |
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Not in the Middle East, but maybe here at home.... |
cleanhippie |
Sep-10-10 03:47 PM |
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So where would there be riots in the streets and people being killed |
bighart |
Sep-10-10 01:33 PM |
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Where did I say that there would be? |
cleanhippie |
Sep-10-10 03:48 PM |
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Seems to me you did, |
bighart |
Sep-10-10 08:01 PM |
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Well, I guess that much like the bible/koran/etc., its open to interpretation |
cleanhippie |
Sep-11-10 12:42 PM |
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Qu'ran? If I remember my Bible quotes that is from the mouth of Jesus. |
jwirr |
Sep-10-10 12:34 PM |
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I know...read my comment.. |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 12:37 PM |
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I've found that it helps to read the whole post, |
Bill McBlueState |
Sep-10-10 12:37 PM |
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Chapter and verse,please. |
jdlh8894 |
Sep-10-10 12:41 PM |
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Just curious, where did Paul say the hair cover thing? |
K8-EEE |
Sep-10-10 12:37 PM |
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The Sorry State Of Bible Education In the US |
jberryhill |
Sep-10-10 12:41 PM |
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Or will she burn in hell? |
texastoast |
Sep-10-10 12:44 PM |
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I don't think he demanded it with fear of punishment.. |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 12:59 PM |
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It says during prayer, but here's the catch.... |
jberryhill |
Sep-10-10 01:26 PM |
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... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 02:03 PM |
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Greek women |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-12-10 04:10 PM |
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I doubt they wore them in the temples of Corinth... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-13-10 02:34 PM |
#101 |
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Are you calling upper class Greek women Prostitutes?? |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-13-10 05:47 PM |
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no...wasn't calling Greek women prostitutes lol... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-14-10 11:25 AM |
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I can't stand Paul. |
Blue_In_AK |
Sep-10-10 01:28 PM |
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Well, Consider What Paul's Original Job Was..... |
jberryhill |
Sep-10-10 01:34 PM |
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Indeed. |
Blue_In_AK |
Sep-10-10 01:44 PM |
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I don't think he perverted Christ's message at all... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 02:13 PM |
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Paul completely perverted the message of Jesus. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-10-10 02:59 PM |
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give me an example of Paul contradicting Jesus |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 03:04 PM |
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No. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-10-10 03:14 PM |
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still no answer...if it was that obvious you would've given me an |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 03:18 PM |
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My answer is: go read what Jesus and Paul said and see for yourself. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-10-10 03:25 PM |
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thanks oh wise one...yes you're the only person to tell a Catholic |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 03:33 PM |
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Paul said he personally met Jesus. |
trotsky |
Sep-10-10 08:34 PM |
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Oh yeah? Where? |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-11-10 11:51 AM |
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What? |
trotsky |
Sep-12-10 10:19 AM |
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Baloney |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-12-10 02:28 PM |
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I am constantly amused at how desperately Christians try... |
trotsky |
Sep-12-10 03:38 PM |
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Straw man |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-12-10 04:06 PM |
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That's exactly what you're trying to do. |
trotsky |
Sep-12-10 04:33 PM |
#96 |
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"Meet" denotes Interaction |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-12-10 05:31 PM |
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So you can't dispute the definition. |
trotsky |
Sep-12-10 06:31 PM |
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Your reading comprehension skills are non-existent |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-13-10 07:16 AM |
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You may attack me all you want, but it doesn't change anything. |
trotsky |
Sep-13-10 08:26 PM |
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What a very strange definition of Fail you have |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-14-10 01:00 PM |
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You're getting more and more unstable here but maybe you can answer this one question: |
trotsky |
Sep-14-10 01:28 PM |
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Unstable?! |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-14-10 03:41 PM |
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Yes, unstable. |
trotsky |
Sep-14-10 07:24 PM |
#127 |
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You are not living in reality |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-14-10 07:40 PM |
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Not in your "reality," that's for sure. |
trotsky |
Sep-15-10 06:27 AM |
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no, Paul said he saw the resurrected Christ in 1 Cor. 15.... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-13-10 02:46 PM |
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Huh? |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-13-10 05:55 PM |
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Christians themselves believe Paul met Jesus. |
trotsky |
Sep-13-10 08:39 PM |
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Oh, fine; as long as seemingly infallible Christians believe it |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-13-10 10:00 PM |
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Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize you yourself were one of those infallible Christians. |
trotsky |
Sep-14-10 06:30 AM |
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I'm neither |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-14-10 01:18 PM |
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Ah, but you read the bible perfectly. Obviously. |
trotsky |
Sep-14-10 01:21 PM |
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Aw, should I just be "taught" by you? |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-14-10 02:38 PM |
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I'm just asking why you are right and everyone else is wrong. |
trotsky |
Sep-14-10 02:43 PM |
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Yet YOU are right and everyone else is wrong. |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-14-10 03:45 PM |
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Never said that. |
trotsky |
Sep-14-10 07:23 PM |
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Yes, the documentation is awesome |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-15-10 10:41 AM |
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You're the one who pulled a Palin and quit. |
trotsky |
Sep-15-10 10:57 AM |
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Quit what? |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-15-10 12:14 PM |
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Desperate for what? |
trotsky |
Sep-15-10 12:39 PM |
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You compare me to Palin, that's an ad hominem |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-15-10 01:19 PM |
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Well thanks, since you interjected yourself in the subthread, it is only fair. |
trotsky |
Sep-15-10 01:44 PM |
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church infallibility is Biblical...thinking it applies to only one |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-14-10 11:29 AM |
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Could you expound on that please? |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-14-10 02:13 PM |
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okay I guess what I'm saying is the Church has the power |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-14-10 02:50 PM |
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Thanks for the response |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-14-10 03:53 PM |
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I don't think the Eastern Orthodox church really has an equivalent |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-16-10 11:33 AM |
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1 Corinthians 15: 3-8 |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-14-10 11:15 AM |
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Paul was talking about the terrible hair cutting salons back then. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-10-10 01:36 PM |
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Those fire and brimstone churches are stuck in the OT... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 02:20 PM |
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1 Corinthians 11 |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 12:46 PM |
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Oh thanks nt |
K8-EEE |
Sep-10-10 01:22 PM |
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Paul WAS a wolf in sheep's clothing which Jesus warned about. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-10-10 01:52 PM |
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that's completely untrue... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 02:29 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-10-10 02:52 PM |
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Pick up a few books on |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-11-10 11:39 AM |
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Do you really want to get started on this? |
smalll |
Sep-10-10 12:46 PM |
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Ahh, the old "you are not taking it in context" argument. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-10-10 12:59 PM |
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Obviously expected. |
Igel |
Sep-12-10 06:10 PM |
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Where in the NT does it say that Jesus repented for throwing the money changers out of the Temple? |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-10-10 01:13 PM |
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Looks like I was wrong -- I can't find him repenting for it! |
smalll |
Sep-10-10 01:47 PM |
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That's cool, I never blamed him for not repenting. |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-10-10 02:20 PM |
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Why Does Paul Refer To Jephtheh The Gileadite As A Hero In Hebrews? |
jberryhill |
Sep-10-10 01:33 PM |
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Well yes, I would rest on the OT/NT distinction. |
smalll |
Sep-10-10 01:50 PM |
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OMG have you READ the OT? |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-11-10 12:04 PM |
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this may come as a surprise to you but maybe Paul proclaimed |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 02:38 PM |
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Many of the Pauline letters are of questioned authorship |
dimbear |
Sep-10-10 04:01 PM |
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Indeed. A number of Biblical books were not written by their "author." |
TexasObserver |
Sep-10-10 04:03 PM |
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that's why I'm not a Bible literalist or read the Bible without at least.. |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-12-10 10:54 AM |
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Interesting commentary. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-10-10 04:02 PM |
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Both books were written by humans. |
tridim |
Sep-10-10 12:47 PM |
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Aren't ALL books ??? |
jdlh8894 |
Sep-10-10 12:55 PM |
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Common sense would have us think so. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-10-10 01:00 PM |
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that's not true... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 01:07 PM |
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He "breathed" it is what my fundy friend says |
K8-EEE |
Sep-10-10 01:25 PM |
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I'm betting she doesn't literally believe God breathes like a person.. |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 01:35 PM |
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Oh yes she does!! She's a literalist |
K8-EEE |
Sep-10-10 01:46 PM |
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she is probably in the minority but even a Catholic university.. |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 02:46 PM |
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I can't |
cleanhippie |
Sep-10-10 03:50 PM |
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Saying people should kill other people is not common sense. |
tridim |
Sep-10-10 01:16 PM |
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the Bible doesn't say innocent people deserve death... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 02:51 PM |
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Are you kidding me? The bible is FULL of innocent people being killed. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-10-10 04:24 PM |
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so does US history...that doesn't mean it's saying innocent people |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-12-10 11:02 AM |
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Did I say that? |
cleanhippie |
Sep-10-10 04:23 PM |
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that doesn't mean they don't contain sacred wisdom... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 01:04 PM |
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The Quran could not have been written by humans |
Azooz |
Sep-11-10 07:22 PM |
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Full quote goes: |
mcollins |
Sep-10-10 01:29 PM |
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A perfect definiton of Religion, is it not |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-11-10 12:18 PM |
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here's how i see it.. |
naaman fletcher |
Sep-10-10 01:34 PM |
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yeah sure Christians were the only ones to ever have slaves... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 02:55 PM |
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huh? |
naaman fletcher |
Sep-10-10 03:02 PM |
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sorry I thought you were being sarcastic... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 03:07 PM |
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no prob! |
naaman fletcher |
Sep-10-10 03:12 PM |
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Rock-a my soul |
libodem |
Sep-10-10 01:49 PM |
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We're all stardust |
Turborama |
Sep-10-10 03:11 PM |
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I must point out that that quote is not a teaching but a prophisy |
zeemike |
Sep-10-10 02:15 PM |
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Jean Calvin, who's work is surreptitiously the real force behind Evangelicals said... |
Taverner |
Sep-10-10 02:45 PM |
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Don't you know that fundies pick and choose what passages |
m00nbeam |
Sep-10-10 02:54 PM |
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Christian fundies also pick and choose passages from the koran to make islam look |
Fuzz |
Sep-10-10 03:06 PM |
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If there is a god, it knew what its creation was going to be like even before is made anything. |
ZombieHorde |
Sep-13-10 08:35 PM |
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I'm in disagreement with that... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-14-10 11:39 AM |
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Yes. They will eat shrimp but whip out Leviticus when desired. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-10-10 04:07 PM |
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I'm sorry you've had bad experiences with Christians.... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-12-10 11:08 AM |
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You have represented well the attitude that Paul embraced. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-10-10 03:21 PM |
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I'm not intolerant of anyone....the OP wasn't judging of Muslims... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-10-10 03:48 PM |
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I was never a big bible reader |
JonLP24 |
Sep-10-10 03:39 PM |
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It means whatever each reader thinks it means. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-10-10 04:01 PM |
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I think it was both... |
Green_Lantern |
Sep-12-10 11:18 AM |
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In the Book of Kells |
frogmarch |
Sep-13-10 06:35 PM |
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