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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-10 01:26 AM
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41. I can't answer for all liberal Christians, but
my denomination bases its doctrine on the "three-legged stool" of Scripture, tradition, and reason.

For one thing, not all of the Bible is stories. Some of it is poetry, some of it is essays on human nature, some of it is like an anthropological account of the culture of an ancient people.

It varies with the section. If you do an in-depth study, you ask questions about why a particular story or episode was included, what historical corroboration there is for the stories (there is some, starting in the period of Kings and Chronicles), and what part is ancient PR, who might have written each section and for what purpose.

You may have heard of retired Bishop John Shelby Spong and may know that he is very much a non-literalist and critical of fundamentalism and the evangelical movement.

Well, he preached at my former parish one Sunday, and the text was the book of Jonah. Now he didn't waste time on whether Jonah could have really lived for three days inside a whale (or even a big fish, which is what the text actually says). Of course Jonah couldn't have. But that's not the point of the story, which is about more than being fish bait. It's about letting your prejudices and self-centeredness get in the way of what you're supposed to do.
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  -So there were Adam and Eve and they had two boys Cain and Abel ..... underpants  Jun-07-10 07:34 PM   #0 
  - The bible mentions "other" people. They just weren't god's people...  sfwriter   Jun-07-10 07:36 PM   #1 
  - By which I should say it is total bollocks anyhow...  sfwriter   Jun-07-10 07:36 PM   #3 
  - That really doesn't work either  underpants   Jun-07-10 07:39 PM   #5 
  - But, but, but ...  Nihil   Jun-09-10 08:40 AM   #35 
  - Apes?  DJ13   Jun-07-10 07:42 PM   #9 
  - actually, only a nut would take it literally. its a tale told about faith  roguevalley   Jun-07-10 11:08 PM   #30 
     - So how do you determine which parts are meant to be taken literally?  laconicsax   Jun-24-10 10:34 PM   #39 
  - A: God works in mysterious ways.  AlinPA   Jun-07-10 07:36 PM   #2 
  - Why do you hate Jesus?  scarletwoman   Jun-07-10 07:38 PM   #4 
  - I have no problem with people who come here for more opportunity  underpants   Jun-07-10 07:40 PM   #7 
  - So you're saying the Oedipal complex began then?  NC_Nurse   Jun-07-10 07:39 PM   #6 
  - Uhh, not to be condescending, but I thought it was fairly common knowledge that  ithinkmyliverhurts   Jun-07-10 07:40 PM   #8 
  - Oh  underpants   Jun-07-10 07:42 PM   #10 
  - No, not quite.  ithinkmyliverhurts   Jun-07-10 07:44 PM   #13 
  - So they were self-impregnating hermaphrodites. Explains a lot, actually. nt  glitch   Jun-07-10 08:32 PM   #27 
  - Men are from Mars  immune   Jun-07-10 07:43 PM   #11 
  - After you think about that, think about the single arkload of survivors of the Great Flood  eShirl   Jun-07-10 07:43 PM   #12 
  - The other story my wife and I pondered on a drive back from Ohio this weekend  underpants   Jun-07-10 07:50 PM   #17 
  - First, think about how they loaded the ark with two of every animal- the worst  AlinPA   Jun-07-10 08:10 PM   #23 
  - And Joseph buying that lame story from Mary. LOL  Booster   Jun-07-10 08:49 PM   #28 
  - My born again preacher friend told me Adam and Eve also  doc03   Jun-07-10 07:44 PM   #14 
  - Because it's a fairy tale.  Warren DeMontague   Jun-07-10 07:46 PM   #15 
  - Check out Genesis 6:4's crazy.  Vickers   Jun-07-10 07:50 PM   #16 
  - Sons of God?  immune   Jun-07-10 07:55 PM   #19 
  - I posted the exact text of the KJV. n/t  Vickers   Jun-07-10 08:26 PM   #26 
     - Which of course is not the original, which uses the plural elohiym  dmallind   Jun-11-10 11:41 AM   #37 
  - "when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men"  eShirl   Jun-07-10 07:55 PM   #20 
     - Oh boy, I can't resist  rbixby   Jun-08-10 10:54 AM   #33 
  - It's all nonsense.  mwb970   Jun-07-10 07:51 PM   #18 
  - Here you go:  Warren DeMontague   Jun-07-10 07:57 PM   #21 
  - Thanks.  underpants   Jun-07-10 08:12 PM   #24 
  - Run Eve Run  Parche   Jun-07-10 08:09 PM   #22 
  - LMFAO  underpants   Jun-07-10 08:13 PM   #25 
  - The general consensus, among people I know, religious or not,  struggle4progress   Jun-07-10 08:51 PM   #29 
  - Eve, I guess.  Iggo   Jun-08-10 12:55 AM   #31 
  - It's quite simple. Just ask any Christian.  trotsky   Jun-08-10 07:13 AM   #32 
  - Here's God's answer.  laconicsax   Jun-08-10 08:45 PM   #34 
  - That's one to remember ...  Nihil   Jun-09-10 08:42 AM   #36 
  - Even liberal Christians accept the Genesis story as myth  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-24-10 09:48 PM   #38 
     - Wait, so if Genesis is myth, what makes the other books of the Bible more valid?  Cleobulus   Jun-25-10 08:06 PM   #40 
        - I can't answer for all liberal Christians, but  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-26-10 01:26 AM   #41 
           - But again, it runs into the problem of how to determine what to "follow" as it were...  Cleobulus   Jun-26-10 02:02 AM   #42 
              - It's our culture's way of approaching the unknowable  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-26-10 09:28 AM   #43 
                 - Greek myths are still a valuable tool  Leontius   Jun-26-10 09:42 AM   #44 
                 - In that context "truths" are found in practically all fiction...  Cleobulus   Jun-26-10 09:51 AM   #47 
                 - That's makes even less sense...  Cleobulus   Jun-26-10 09:46 AM   #45 
                    - YMMV  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-26-10 09:49 AM   #46 
                       - My only question in that regard is, is she hot?  Cleobulus   Jun-26-10 09:56 AM   #48 
                          - People find meaning in different contexts  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-26-10 11:50 AM   #49 

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