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ChadwickHenryWard Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:15 PM
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35. Weak tea.
Edited on Wed May-12-10 06:23 PM by ChadwickHenryWard
The Church attempts to position itself as moral leadership for the entire world. A moral leader does not blame others for his own moral shortcomings. The Church is supposed to be a shining light, an example for the rest of us. Saying they are not better, and in fact caused to be bad because of, the rest of us, doesn't fly.

Also, the assertion that priests should not be subject to secular authority is disturbing, especially in light of the fact the the Church's internal response has been inadequate. The clergy need to be subject to the same laws as the rest of us.
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  -Brazilian Archbishop: ''Kids Are Spontaneously Homosexual'' DeSwiss  May-05-10 11:49 PM   #0 
  - just maybe its the culture and teaching of the church that's the fault eh? nt  msongs   May-05-10 11:50 PM   #1 
  - It should be pretty clear to most people.....  DeSwiss   May-06-10 12:06 AM   #4 
     - So what he's saying is  Mz Pip   May-06-10 12:13 AM   #8 
     - Old, but tried and true.....  DeSwiss   May-06-10 12:26 AM   #12 
     - I agree, and he isn't the only one who has no clue  Dorian Gray   May-07-10 04:39 AM   #31 
  - Trust an old crazy guy in a funny hat to say stuff like that.  harry_pothead   May-05-10 11:51 PM   #2 
  - I'm inclined to agree....  DeSwiss   May-06-10 12:10 AM   #6 
  - I don't think an archbishop should be telling us what is pedophile.  Lucian   May-05-10 11:56 PM   #3 
  - Why not?  laconicsax   May-06-10 12:09 AM   #5 
  - I'm sure the archbishop is intimately acquainted with pedophile.  Lucian   May-06-10 12:33 AM   #15 
  - If that's the case then he probably has a firm grasp of the subject. n/t  laconicsax   May-06-10 01:07 AM   #18 
  - Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark!  tavalon   May-06-10 01:09 AM   #19 
  - By claiming that ''society is pedophile.....''  DeSwiss   May-06-10 12:15 AM   #9 
  - Father, respectfully, STFU!  tblue   May-06-10 12:10 AM   #7 
  - I wish that would work.  DeSwiss   May-06-10 12:21 AM   #10 
  - Priests are creepy.  Webster Green   May-06-10 12:21 AM   #11 
  - The first religions of prehistoric mankind used it in the beginning.  DeSwiss   May-06-10 12:32 AM   #14 
  - maybe he's projecting his own feelings on to society?  nilram   May-06-10 12:32 AM   #13 
  - Let's just call what they call it:  DeSwiss   May-06-10 12:34 AM   #16 
  - Apparently making up shit to make the Church look awesome is his calling  charlie   May-06-10 12:49 AM   #17 
  - Yeah I saw that.  DeSwiss   May-06-10 02:42 AM   #20 
  - Becoming Pope Score: Nazis-1 Jews-0 /nt  jberryhill   May-06-10 08:02 AM   #22 
     - ....  DeSwiss   May-06-10 03:06 PM   #25 
  - K & R  Christa   May-06-10 06:56 AM   #21 
  - Ain't that the truth!  DeSwiss   May-06-10 03:06 PM   #26 
  - I think of all the people they have hurt over these many years  Angry Dragon   May-06-10 08:12 AM   #23 
  - Absolutely. But then all it takes is a reading of the bible to learn this.  DeSwiss   May-06-10 03:13 PM   #27 
     - Thank you for the quote  Angry Dragon   May-06-10 03:41 PM   #29 
        - You're most welcome.  DeSwiss   May-06-10 03:52 PM   #30 
  - "Spontaneously Homosexual"  mrbarber   May-06-10 09:14 AM   #24 
  - ....  DeSwiss   May-06-10 03:13 PM   #28 
  - Sounds like he bought into the "Perfect Society" seminary propaganda  CatholicEdHead   May-12-10 03:29 PM   #32 
  - Nobody in this thread ever read Freud or heard of "polymorphous perversity"?  struggle4progress   May-12-10 04:15 PM   #33 
  - Freud was an old fraud  darkstar3   May-12-10 04:21 PM   #34 
     - Hey, you know, when you're desperate to defend church hierarchy...  trotsky   May-12-10 06:24 PM   #36 
     - The jumbled plasticity of human sexuality is well-established,  struggle4progress   May-12-10 09:42 PM   #37 
        - Another tangent from you...quel surprise.  darkstar3   May-12-10 09:54 PM   #38 
           - This thread is filled with attacks on the bishop's claim that children are spontaneously homnosexual  struggle4progress   May-12-10 10:14 PM   #39 
              - So you don't want to talk about Freud.  darkstar3   May-12-10 10:42 PM   #40 
              - So you think the common tendency for children of the same sex to form playgroups...  trotsky   May-13-10 06:54 AM   #41 
                 - I think putting words in other peoples' mouths is an unattractive discussion style  struggle4progress   May-13-10 11:40 AM   #42 
                    - I feel the same way about mass injections of tangentially related subject matter.  darkstar3   May-13-10 11:48 AM   #43 
                    - I merely noted some of what the bishop said might have a factual basis  struggle4progress   May-13-10 12:58 PM   #44 
                       - Does this have a factual basis?  trotsky   May-13-10 01:33 PM   #48 
                       - Of course, the media comment would suggest he's an ignorant asshole  struggle4progress   May-13-10 02:32 PM   #52 
                          - The media comment?  trotsky   May-13-10 02:48 PM   #55 
                          - At last count,  darkstar3   May-13-10 02:51 PM   #56 
                       - By referencing an old fraud,  darkstar3   May-13-10 02:17 PM   #50 
                    - But that's what the bishop believes.  trotsky   May-13-10 12:59 PM   #45 
                       - I can't find any reference to playgroups in the OP or the linked HuffPo article  struggle4progress   May-13-10 01:05 PM   #46 
                          - You must not have read them, then.  trotsky   May-13-10 01:07 PM   #47 
                             - I expect "play with" is a polite euphemism in context:  struggle4progress   May-13-10 01:48 PM   #49 
                                - You wish.  trotsky   May-13-10 02:21 PM   #51 
                                   - I try to take the view that there are usually options beyond  struggle4progress   May-13-10 02:38 PM   #53 
                                      - So you like double standards, then?  trotsky   May-13-10 02:47 PM   #54 
  - Weak tea.  ChadwickHenryWard   May-12-10 06:15 PM   #35 
 

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