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ironbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 05:34 PM
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16. “the church is about the only social outlet there is.”
YES! Precisely!

And if we set out to establish an alternative what could we offer?

Music hall?, Bar? Sports Club? Association?....?

Most alternatives are either age specific, needs specific,for singles, able bodied or they cost money.

For vast-vast numbers of people it is as you say- “the church is about the only social outlet there is”…and at church the most primal needs of >community< and >belonging< are met.

“…good place for networking for their business/job, because all their family members go”

YES!
Add to that list an infinite number of other opportunities and needs met-
Looking for a sober partner in a drug free environment.
Aged and infirm and just looking for conversation.
Disfigured or disabled and looking for an accepting environment that isn’t focused on looking cool and beautiful.
Adolescent from dysfunctional background needing mentoring and role modelling.
The opportunity to engage in meaningful service, social justice and charity.

The churches are a One Stop shop for a whole host of basic human needs.

And in some churches people will put up with all kinds of loopy theology because they are getting these primal communal needs met. It aint rocket science and I don’t understand the endless prove/disprove god arguments that go on >AS IF< that was the key to why people embrace religion.

If anyone wants to see religion diminish or vanish they had best come up with a better multi purpose communal environment.
Haven't seen one named, identified or proposed yet.



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  -I wonder how many people profess to be religious, talk the talk, etc., but really don't believe a raccoon  Apr-09-10 10:40 AM   #0 
  - I don't think it really matters  nxylas   Apr-09-10 10:48 AM   #1 
  - Good point. Someone said once on this board that religion didn't really change what  raccoon   Apr-09-10 10:52 AM   #2 
     - Although I think some that are real assholes use it as a justification for  RKP5637   Apr-09-10 11:00 AM   #5 
        - CS Lewis said the same thing  nxylas   Apr-09-10 11:34 AM   #8 
  - I suspect a great many too. Some do church IMO out of habit from  RKP5637   Apr-09-10 10:57 AM   #3 
  - I recently read an article  TlalocW   Apr-09-10 10:59 AM   #4 
  - Yes, similar to mob mentality... n/t  RKP5637   Apr-09-10 11:03 AM   #6 
  - The Milgram experiments had nothing to do with religion.  ironbark   Apr-09-10 03:23 PM   #12 
     - Never said it did  TlalocW   Apr-10-10 09:59 PM   #22 
  - I think it would be difficult go to church and not believe a word of it.  Jim__   Apr-09-10 11:20 AM   #7 
  - I agree, it's akin to mass brainwashing, and those in doubt get help to  RKP5637   Apr-09-10 12:16 PM   #9 
     - It's always easy to see the weaknesses in people we disagree with.  Jim__   Apr-09-10 12:32 PM   #10 
        - I used to agree with these people, and I changed. n/t  RKP5637   Apr-09-10 01:02 PM   #11 
  - Probably fewer than the number of people who believe but don't follow those beliefs.  rug   Apr-09-10 04:25 PM   #13 
  - Well, since at bottom that's something only they can know  JerseygirlCT   Apr-09-10 04:43 PM   #14 
  - churches are about the only social outlet where I live.  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-09-10 05:27 PM   #15 
     - Can it be assumed you have family, friends, social network?  ironbark   Apr-09-10 06:00 PM   #17 
     - not exactly.  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-13-10 11:19 PM   #26 
        - "Our Lady of None of Your Goddamned Business"  iris27   Apr-15-10 10:22 AM   #29 
     - +1, n/t  RKP5637   Apr-10-10 06:27 AM   #20 
  - “the church is about the only social outlet there is.”  ironbark   Apr-09-10 05:34 PM   #16 
  - I agree with you but I also think the "prove/disprove" argument is important.  Hello_Kitty   Apr-13-10 12:42 PM   #24 
  - I've never been to church in my life  TZ   Apr-13-10 02:31 PM   #25 
  - UU Churches can work for atheists.  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-14-10 03:21 PM   #27 
  - Jean Meslier  charlie   Apr-09-10 06:22 PM   #18 
  - Thanks for posting this! n/t  RKP5637   Apr-10-10 06:31 AM   #21 
  - It seem to me that most people are "functionally atheist".  Odin2005   Apr-09-10 09:48 PM   #19 
  - Yup.  iris27   Apr-12-10 11:21 AM   #23 
  - My mother's mother did not believe when she died.  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-14-10 09:39 PM   #28 
  - I've been hearing things like that a lot lately, about people who went to church all their lives,  raccoon   Apr-15-10 10:58 AM   #30 
  - My father was one of these for many years; I didn't know it until much later.  iris27   Apr-16-10 10:36 AM   #31 
 

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