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Fri Apr-09-10 05:34 PM
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| 16. “the church is about the only social outlet there is.” |
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YES! Precisely!
And if we set out to establish an alternative what could we offer?
Music hall?, Bar? Sports Club? Association?....?
Most alternatives are either age specific, needs specific,for singles, able bodied or they cost money.
For vast-vast numbers of people it is as you say- “the church is about the only social outlet there is”…and at church the most primal needs of >community< and >belonging< are met.
“…good place for networking for their business/job, because all their family members go”
YES! Add to that list an infinite number of other opportunities and needs met- Looking for a sober partner in a drug free environment. Aged and infirm and just looking for conversation. Disfigured or disabled and looking for an accepting environment that isn’t focused on looking cool and beautiful. Adolescent from dysfunctional background needing mentoring and role modelling. The opportunity to engage in meaningful service, social justice and charity.
The churches are a One Stop shop for a whole host of basic human needs.
And in some churches people will put up with all kinds of loopy theology because they are getting these primal communal needs met. It aint rocket science and I don’t understand the endless prove/disprove god arguments that go on >AS IF< that was the key to why people embrace religion.
If anyone wants to see religion diminish or vanish they had best come up with a better multi purpose communal environment. Haven't seen one named, identified or proposed yet.
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| -I wonder how many people profess to be religious, talk the talk, etc., but really don't believe a |
raccoon |
Apr-09-10 10:40 AM |
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I don't think it really matters |
nxylas |
Apr-09-10 10:48 AM |
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Good point. Someone said once on this board that religion didn't really change what |
raccoon |
Apr-09-10 10:52 AM |
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Although I think some that are real assholes use it as a justification for |
RKP5637 |
Apr-09-10 11:00 AM |
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CS Lewis said the same thing |
nxylas |
Apr-09-10 11:34 AM |
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I suspect a great many too. Some do church IMO out of habit from |
RKP5637 |
Apr-09-10 10:57 AM |
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I recently read an article |
TlalocW |
Apr-09-10 10:59 AM |
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Yes, similar to mob mentality... n/t |
RKP5637 |
Apr-09-10 11:03 AM |
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The Milgram experiments had nothing to do with religion. |
ironbark |
Apr-09-10 03:23 PM |
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Never said it did |
TlalocW |
Apr-10-10 09:59 PM |
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I think it would be difficult go to church and not believe a word of it. |
Jim__ |
Apr-09-10 11:20 AM |
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I agree, it's akin to mass brainwashing, and those in doubt get help to |
RKP5637 |
Apr-09-10 12:16 PM |
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It's always easy to see the weaknesses in people we disagree with. |
Jim__ |
Apr-09-10 12:32 PM |
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I used to agree with these people, and I changed. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Apr-09-10 01:02 PM |
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Probably fewer than the number of people who believe but don't follow those beliefs. |
rug |
Apr-09-10 04:25 PM |
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Well, since at bottom that's something only they can know |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-09-10 04:43 PM |
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churches are about the only social outlet where I live. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Apr-09-10 05:27 PM |
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Can it be assumed you have family, friends, social network? |
ironbark |
Apr-09-10 06:00 PM |
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not exactly. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Apr-13-10 11:19 PM |
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"Our Lady of None of Your Goddamned Business" |
iris27 |
Apr-15-10 10:22 AM |
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+1, n/t |
RKP5637 |
Apr-10-10 06:27 AM |
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“the church is about the only social outlet there is.” |
ironbark |
Apr-09-10 05:34 PM |
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I agree with you but I also think the "prove/disprove" argument is important. |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-13-10 12:42 PM |
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I've never been to church in my life |
TZ |
Apr-13-10 02:31 PM |
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UU Churches can work for atheists. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Apr-14-10 03:21 PM |
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Jean Meslier |
charlie |
Apr-09-10 06:22 PM |
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Thanks for posting this! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Apr-10-10 06:31 AM |
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It seem to me that most people are "functionally atheist". |
Odin2005 |
Apr-09-10 09:48 PM |
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Yup. |
iris27 |
Apr-12-10 11:21 AM |
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My mother's mother did not believe when she died. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Apr-14-10 09:39 PM |
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I've been hearing things like that a lot lately, about people who went to church all their lives, |
raccoon |
Apr-15-10 10:58 AM |
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My father was one of these for many years; I didn't know it until much later. |
iris27 |
Apr-16-10 10:36 AM |
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