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Fri Apr-09-10 11:20 AM
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| 7. I think it would be difficult go to church and not believe a word of it. |
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We are all somewhat controlled by our circumstances. People who go to church are surrounded by believers. I think it is hard to be surrounded by people with a common belief, share most beliefs that these people have, and then not actually believe in one particular thing. Our environment has a lot to do with what we believe.
I sit next to someone at work who is very religious. He has doubts about his beliefs all the time, but when he talks to other religious people about those doubts, they help him to work on them, working on them with a view toward overcoming them.
Religion also entails a certain view of the world. To change your view is to literally have to change the nature of the world that you live in. I think it's hard to make that kind of change without talking to people about it. I'm not sure how most churches and most church communities would react if you told them you no longer believed.
I'm sure there are some people who do that. I just think most people in that situation (going to church every week) would try to believe.
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| -I wonder how many people profess to be religious, talk the talk, etc., but really don't believe a |
raccoon |
Apr-09-10 10:40 AM |
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I don't think it really matters |
nxylas |
Apr-09-10 10:48 AM |
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Good point. Someone said once on this board that religion didn't really change what |
raccoon |
Apr-09-10 10:52 AM |
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Although I think some that are real assholes use it as a justification for |
RKP5637 |
Apr-09-10 11:00 AM |
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CS Lewis said the same thing |
nxylas |
Apr-09-10 11:34 AM |
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I suspect a great many too. Some do church IMO out of habit from |
RKP5637 |
Apr-09-10 10:57 AM |
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I recently read an article |
TlalocW |
Apr-09-10 10:59 AM |
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Yes, similar to mob mentality... n/t |
RKP5637 |
Apr-09-10 11:03 AM |
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The Milgram experiments had nothing to do with religion. |
ironbark |
Apr-09-10 03:23 PM |
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Never said it did |
TlalocW |
Apr-10-10 09:59 PM |
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I think it would be difficult go to church and not believe a word of it. |
Jim__ |
Apr-09-10 11:20 AM |
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I agree, it's akin to mass brainwashing, and those in doubt get help to |
RKP5637 |
Apr-09-10 12:16 PM |
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It's always easy to see the weaknesses in people we disagree with. |
Jim__ |
Apr-09-10 12:32 PM |
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I used to agree with these people, and I changed. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Apr-09-10 01:02 PM |
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Probably fewer than the number of people who believe but don't follow those beliefs. |
rug |
Apr-09-10 04:25 PM |
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Well, since at bottom that's something only they can know |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-09-10 04:43 PM |
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churches are about the only social outlet where I live. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Apr-09-10 05:27 PM |
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Can it be assumed you have family, friends, social network? |
ironbark |
Apr-09-10 06:00 PM |
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not exactly. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Apr-13-10 11:19 PM |
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"Our Lady of None of Your Goddamned Business" |
iris27 |
Apr-15-10 10:22 AM |
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+1, n/t |
RKP5637 |
Apr-10-10 06:27 AM |
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“the church is about the only social outlet there is.” |
ironbark |
Apr-09-10 05:34 PM |
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I agree with you but I also think the "prove/disprove" argument is important. |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-13-10 12:42 PM |
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I've never been to church in my life |
TZ |
Apr-13-10 02:31 PM |
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UU Churches can work for atheists. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Apr-14-10 03:21 PM |
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Jean Meslier |
charlie |
Apr-09-10 06:22 PM |
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Thanks for posting this! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Apr-10-10 06:31 AM |
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It seem to me that most people are "functionally atheist". |
Odin2005 |
Apr-09-10 09:48 PM |
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Yup. |
iris27 |
Apr-12-10 11:21 AM |
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My mother's mother did not believe when she died. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Apr-14-10 09:39 PM |
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I've been hearing things like that a lot lately, about people who went to church all their lives, |
raccoon |
Apr-15-10 10:58 AM |
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My father was one of these for many years; I didn't know it until much later. |
iris27 |
Apr-16-10 10:36 AM |
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