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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:20 AM
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7. I think it would be difficult go to church and not believe a word of it.
We are all somewhat controlled by our circumstances. People who go to church are surrounded by believers. I think it is hard to be surrounded by people with a common belief, share most beliefs that these people have, and then not actually believe in one particular thing. Our environment has a lot to do with what we believe.

I sit next to someone at work who is very religious. He has doubts about his beliefs all the time, but when he talks to other religious people about those doubts, they help him to work on them, working on them with a view toward overcoming them.

Religion also entails a certain view of the world. To change your view is to literally have to change the nature of the world that you live in. I think it's hard to make that kind of change without talking to people about it. I'm not sure how most churches and most church communities would react if you told them you no longer believed.

I'm sure there are some people who do that. I just think most people in that situation (going to church every week) would try to believe.
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  -I wonder how many people profess to be religious, talk the talk, etc., but really don't believe a raccoon  Apr-09-10 10:40 AM   #0 
  - I don't think it really matters  nxylas   Apr-09-10 10:48 AM   #1 
  - Good point. Someone said once on this board that religion didn't really change what  raccoon   Apr-09-10 10:52 AM   #2 
     - Although I think some that are real assholes use it as a justification for  RKP5637   Apr-09-10 11:00 AM   #5 
        - CS Lewis said the same thing  nxylas   Apr-09-10 11:34 AM   #8 
  - I suspect a great many too. Some do church IMO out of habit from  RKP5637   Apr-09-10 10:57 AM   #3 
  - I recently read an article  TlalocW   Apr-09-10 10:59 AM   #4 
  - Yes, similar to mob mentality... n/t  RKP5637   Apr-09-10 11:03 AM   #6 
  - The Milgram experiments had nothing to do with religion.  ironbark   Apr-09-10 03:23 PM   #12 
     - Never said it did  TlalocW   Apr-10-10 09:59 PM   #22 
  - I think it would be difficult go to church and not believe a word of it.  Jim__   Apr-09-10 11:20 AM   #7 
  - I agree, it's akin to mass brainwashing, and those in doubt get help to  RKP5637   Apr-09-10 12:16 PM   #9 
     - It's always easy to see the weaknesses in people we disagree with.  Jim__   Apr-09-10 12:32 PM   #10 
        - I used to agree with these people, and I changed. n/t  RKP5637   Apr-09-10 01:02 PM   #11 
  - Probably fewer than the number of people who believe but don't follow those beliefs.  rug   Apr-09-10 04:25 PM   #13 
  - Well, since at bottom that's something only they can know  JerseygirlCT   Apr-09-10 04:43 PM   #14 
  - churches are about the only social outlet where I live.  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-09-10 05:27 PM   #15 
     - Can it be assumed you have family, friends, social network?  ironbark   Apr-09-10 06:00 PM   #17 
     - not exactly.  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-13-10 11:19 PM   #26 
        - "Our Lady of None of Your Goddamned Business"  iris27   Apr-15-10 10:22 AM   #29 
     - +1, n/t  RKP5637   Apr-10-10 06:27 AM   #20 
  - the church is about the only social outlet there is.  ironbark   Apr-09-10 05:34 PM   #16 
  - I agree with you but I also think the "prove/disprove" argument is important.  Hello_Kitty   Apr-13-10 12:42 PM   #24 
  - I've never been to church in my life  TZ   Apr-13-10 02:31 PM   #25 
  - UU Churches can work for atheists.  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-14-10 03:21 PM   #27 
  - Jean Meslier  charlie   Apr-09-10 06:22 PM   #18 
  - Thanks for posting this! n/t  RKP5637   Apr-10-10 06:31 AM   #21 
  - It seem to me that most people are "functionally atheist".  Odin2005   Apr-09-10 09:48 PM   #19 
  - Yup.  iris27   Apr-12-10 11:21 AM   #23 
  - My mother's mother did not believe when she died.  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-14-10 09:39 PM   #28 
  - I've been hearing things like that a lot lately, about people who went to church all their lives,  raccoon   Apr-15-10 10:58 AM   #30 
  - My father was one of these for many years; I didn't know it until much later.  iris27   Apr-16-10 10:36 AM   #31 

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