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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. Sorry, but it is only your opinion that the only kind of truth is
scientific or material or literal truth.

Science, since it deals solely with the material world, can neither prove or disprove the existence of an immaterial reality.
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  -Any religion or person who claims to be in possession of the truth stopschoolpaddling  Feb-10-10 12:25 AM   #0 
  - Furthermore, they will seek to control you & your money.  The_Casual_Observer   Feb-10-10 12:34 AM   #1 
  - That was the original purpose of religion back in the caveman era.  LiberalFighter   Feb-10-10 11:45 PM   #35 
     - Not quite  tama   Feb-13-10 04:38 PM   #46 
  - Closer to fine, eh? nt  greyl   Feb-10-10 12:39 AM   #2 
  - I agree. No one can claim to be in possession of an ultimate truth.  pnwmom   Feb-10-10 12:45 AM   #3 
  - I agree - n/t  Jim__   Feb-10-10 05:07 AM   #5 
  - Because science is just another religion, right?  trotsky   Feb-10-10 07:00 AM   #6 
  - No, science is not a religion. It is completely outside of and separate from  pnwmom   Feb-10-10 11:14 AM   #8 
     - On the contrary, whenever religion makes a claim about the physical world,  trotsky   Feb-10-10 11:16 AM   #10 
     - I agree with your first statement. But it doesn't lead to the second.  pnwmom   Feb-10-10 11:19 AM   #11 
        - Yes, that's a belief of your religion.  trotsky   Feb-10-10 11:22 AM   #12 
        - It's a religious belief that cannot be disproven scientifically, because the two areas  pnwmom   Feb-10-10 04:07 PM   #22 
           - You have a cartoonish notion of what science is.  trotsky   Feb-10-10 06:03 PM   #25 
        - Then that is not a "truth", now is it?  rd_kent   Feb-10-10 01:38 PM   #16 
           - Sorry, but it is only your opinion that the only kind of truth is  pnwmom   Feb-10-10 04:09 PM   #23 
              - How do you know there is anything other than the material world?  Silent3   Feb-10-10 06:25 PM   #27 
              - I don't know there is, and I don't pretend any certainty about it at all.  pnwmom   Feb-10-10 09:14 PM   #30 
                 - There's a difference between being "comfortable with ambiguity and uncertainty"...  Silent3   Feb-10-10 10:49 PM   #32 
                    - You are assuming that because I'm not interested in getting into a deep philosophical  pnwmom   Feb-10-10 10:58 PM   #33 
              - Uhm, yeah. If you say so....  rd_kent   Feb-11-10 10:28 AM   #39 
     - Science and Religion ...  geistvomeinzelganger   Feb-10-10 02:42 PM   #19 
     - Why would anybody  rrneck   Feb-10-10 03:10 PM   #20 
     - You write  stopschoolpaddling   Feb-10-10 03:33 PM   #21 
     - Go here:  darkstar3   Feb-10-10 08:05 PM   #29 
  - Hahahaha! Someone didn't do well in science class, I think.  rd_kent   Feb-10-10 10:38 AM   #7 
     - You didn't understand my point. I'm not disagreeing with science.  pnwmom   Feb-10-10 11:16 AM   #9 
        - That is not entirely correct.  rd_kent   Feb-10-10 01:35 PM   #15 
           - Science may disprove some beliefs that people with faith may hold.  pnwmom   Feb-10-10 04:14 PM   #24 
              - If that immaterial world has any kind of detectable influence on the real world,  trotsky   Feb-10-10 06:24 PM   #26 
              - You're equating "real world" with a "material world that people can sense or  pnwmom   Feb-10-10 09:17 PM   #31 
                 - Yes, even science can't prove or disprove what is real.  stopschoolpaddling   Feb-10-10 11:45 PM   #36 
                 - Sure.  trotsky   Feb-11-10 06:34 AM   #37 
                    - No I can't. It's way over my head.  stopschoolpaddling   Feb-11-10 11:14 AM   #41 
              - You are right, science cannot disprove something you cannot prove to begin with.  rd_kent   Feb-11-10 10:31 AM   #40 
  - Susan B anthony said it best, "I distrust those who say they know gods will  mrcheerful   Feb-10-10 01:03 AM   #4 
  - How about people who claim to have sometimes experienced enlightened states  GliderGuider   Feb-10-10 12:09 PM   #13 
  - Just because YOU don't know...  geistvomeinzelganger   Feb-10-10 01:34 PM   #14 
  - I think I should have said  stopschoolpaddling   Feb-10-10 01:53 PM   #17 
     - Ah. That I can definitely get on board with.  GliderGuider   Feb-10-10 02:32 PM   #18 
  - I don't think schools should be paddled either. n/t  Silent3   Feb-10-10 06:26 PM   #28 
  - I dunno, what do you do with the really bad ones...  trotsky   Feb-11-10 06:49 AM   #38 
  - Anyone who thinks they know the "ultimate truth" needs a psychiatrist.  Odin2005   Feb-10-10 11:29 PM   #34 
  - I have been yelled at witin other threads  Angry Dragon   Feb-12-10 02:17 AM   #42 
  - In fact that's a pretty fundamental teaching in Zen Buddhism  YankeyMCC   Feb-12-10 05:48 AM   #43 
  - "if you see the Buddha walking on the road, kill him."  Odin2005   Feb-13-10 01:47 AM   #45 
  - Here's a Song That Says Exactly That !!!  Sarah88   Feb-12-10 09:04 PM   #44 
 

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