| 34. I don't know how old you are but I do know how tedious you are. That is sufficient. |
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And I have seen more fully formed arguments on cardboard signs at teabag rallies.
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| -On Biblical literalism |
Sal316 |
Oct-29-09 04:18 PM |
#0 |
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boy, that's a lot of generalization and stereotyping of how Atheists think |
wtbymark |
Oct-29-09 04:29 PM |
#1 |
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Read the threads here... |
Sal316 |
Oct-29-09 04:32 PM |
#2 |
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If there's a "deeper understanding" behind religious texts, I've yet to hear it. |
stopbush |
Oct-29-09 04:33 PM |
#3 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-29-09 10:38 PM |
#25 |
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If I were to venture a guess. |
gooey |
Nov-02-09 04:04 AM |
#179 |
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Cute, Sir, But No Cigar.... |
The Magistrate |
Oct-29-09 04:49 PM |
#4 |
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Scalia and Thomas would agree with you. |
rug |
Oct-29-09 06:56 PM |
#7 |
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Exactly! +10 |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-09 07:10 PM |
#9 |
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If that's what you got from what I said. |
Sal316 |
Oct-29-09 08:30 PM |
#11 |
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Oh, it's all three AT ONCE, is it? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-09 08:32 PM |
#12 |
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My Simplicity Of Mind, Sir, Is Legend.... |
The Magistrate |
Oct-29-09 09:44 PM |
#16 |
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To the contrary, centuries of biblical scholarship has attempted to ferret out the meaning |
rug |
Oct-29-09 10:04 PM |
#19 |
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Let Us Not Mix Apples And Oranges, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Oct-29-09 10:26 PM |
#21 |
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What you have determined is that the book has no theological value and, by extension, |
rug |
Oct-29-09 10:34 PM |
#23 |
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That's not what he said at all. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-09 10:36 PM |
#24 |
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Trust me, the Magistrate has little need for your advocacy, Meg. |
rug |
Oct-29-09 10:48 PM |
#27 |
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True, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-09 10:50 PM |
#29 |
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Actually, it is. |
rug |
Oct-29-09 10:53 PM |
#31 |
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Aww, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-09 10:54 PM |
#32 |
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I don't know how old you are but I do know how tedious you are. That is sufficient. |
rug |
Oct-29-09 11:06 PM |
#34 |
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mmmhmm, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-09 11:12 PM |
#35 |
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Bye, Orly. |
rug |
Oct-29-09 11:18 PM |
#36 |
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That Theology Has No Value, Sir, Is Axiomatic |
The Magistrate |
Oct-29-09 10:50 PM |
#28 |
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Now you have moved to the fruit stand. |
rug |
Oct-29-09 11:04 PM |
#33 |
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One Must Accept, Sir, That The Divine Exists, And Can Be Known, To Engage In Theology |
The Magistrate |
Oct-29-09 11:32 PM |
#37 |
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If God cannot be known or demonstrated then it cannot be the conclusion of an inquiry. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 12:00 AM |
#38 |
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Christian Theologians, Sir, Will say That On Occasion, But It Is Only Lip Service |
The Magistrate |
Oct-30-09 12:18 AM |
#39 |
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There is not a single theologian who holds that God can be comprehended fully. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 08:27 AM |
#44 |
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"The likeness is far greater than the difference." |
trotsky |
Oct-30-09 02:25 PM |
#64 |
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Perhaps I could. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 06:08 PM |
#90 |
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I'm surprised you managed to spell intellectual prowess, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 06:54 PM |
#101 |
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You know, darkstar, given you've stopped so many, I'm glad that adage is true. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:00 PM |
#107 |
| -
Again your attempted insult makes no sense. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:02 PM |
#108 |
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It is truly difficult to insult a dolt and have the dolt realize it. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:06 PM |
#112 |
| -
Especially when you can't use proper sentence structure. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:14 PM |
#118 |
| -
Hmmm, that clause looks rather forlorn. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:15 PM |
#121 |
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A concept with which you must be intimately familiar, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:16 PM |
#123 |
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I know. My five children won't give me any of their time. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:19 PM |
#128 |
| -
If I believed you had spawned, I wouldn't blame them. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:21 PM |
#130 |
| -
A subject on which you must have vast experience. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:22 PM |
#131 |
| -
As a matter of fact, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:23 PM |
#134 |
| -
Lol, you discuss dental surgery with friends who love to discuss dental surgery? |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:28 PM |
#139 |
| -
What's clear? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:31 PM |
#143 |
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For one thing, your writing style. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:36 PM |
#149 |
| -
That's just those under-used neurons |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:38 PM |
#152 |
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Just take care of those under-used neurons, you'll likely need every last one of them. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:51 PM |
#157 |
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The king of the lame one-liners gets upset when someone does it to him? |
trotsky |
Oct-30-09 07:26 PM |
#136 |
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As always, the bullies can dish out, but they can't take any of their own medicine. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:28 PM |
#138 |
| -
Yup. |
trotsky |
Oct-30-09 07:32 PM |
#144 |
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. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:33 PM |
#146 |
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And once again, the atheist's questions are far too difficult for the believer. |
trotsky |
Oct-30-09 07:37 PM |
#150 |
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Oh, but check #142. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:40 PM |
#153 |
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Yes, you insight is too original and devastating for deluded stupid believers. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:44 PM |
#154 |
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I'll spare you the couple of days. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:31 PM |
#142 |
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I would shoot a bit wider. |
rrneck |
Oct-29-09 09:50 PM |
#17 |
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A Reasonable View, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Oct-29-09 09:59 PM |
#18 |
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True indeed. |
rrneck |
Oct-29-09 10:10 PM |
#20 |
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And where exactly does this "deeper understanding" come from? |
skepticscott |
Oct-29-09 05:28 PM |
#5 |
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The religionists are just flailing at this point. |
stopbush |
Oct-29-09 06:37 PM |
#6 |
| -
Point well made. |
rug |
Oct-29-09 06:57 PM |
#8 |
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What gives you the right, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-09 07:44 PM |
#10 |
| -
You start off with the wrong premise... |
Sal316 |
Oct-29-09 10:32 PM |
#22 |
| -
Ad hom, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-09 10:38 PM |
#26 |
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I honestly don't understand the charge that the liberal religious enable literalists |
Meshuga |
Oct-30-09 07:59 AM |
#43 |
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What's not to understand? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 08:58 AM |
#45 |
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It is not a matter of reclaiming anything |
Meshuga |
Oct-30-09 10:02 AM |
#46 |
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... |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 10:35 AM |
#48 |
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The only way to know what a liberal Christian is about is by getting to know them |
Meshuga |
Oct-30-09 11:37 AM |
#50 |
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If it is a poor explanation, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 12:01 PM |
#52 |
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I think you make that point perfectly. |
rd_kent |
Oct-30-09 01:43 PM |
#56 |
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This may surprise you, |
Leontius |
Oct-30-09 01:55 PM |
#58 |
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So what? |
rd_kent |
Oct-30-09 02:09 PM |
#62 |
| -
And that is true in the places I have lived |
Meshuga |
Oct-30-09 03:21 PM |
#72 |
| -
Maybe we've both just been lucky |
Leontius |
Oct-30-09 03:49 PM |
#78 |
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The analogy does not insult me at all |
Meshuga |
Oct-30-09 03:01 PM |
#68 |
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. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 03:24 PM |
#74 |
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Agree and disagree (about the flamesuit) |
Meshuga |
Oct-30-09 06:24 PM |
#91 |
| -
Aw man, who turned over the rock you hide under? |
trotsky |
Oct-29-09 08:50 PM |
#13 |
| -
Hmph, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-09 09:08 PM |
#14 |
| -
Don't get down on yourself, man. |
trotsky |
Oct-29-09 09:23 PM |
#15 |
| -
You might want to unclench... |
Sal316 |
Oct-29-09 10:52 PM |
#30 |
| -
I missed that post. |
rd_kent |
Oct-30-09 01:17 AM |
#40 |
| -
You won't get an answer |
EvolveOrConvolve |
Oct-30-09 01:06 PM |
#53 |
| -
You're really not fooling anyone, you know. |
trotsky |
Oct-30-09 06:49 AM |
#42 |
| -
SAL316, seriously, I would like to know. |
rd_kent |
Oct-30-09 01:47 PM |
#57 |
| -
I'll try to answer best I can. |
Sal316 |
Oct-30-09 03:16 PM |
#71 |
| -
SAL, I appreciate your response, but I find it to be wrong. |
rd_kent |
Oct-30-09 03:30 PM |
#75 |
| -
Thx for the reasonable debate... |
Sal316 |
Oct-30-09 07:05 PM |
#109 |
| -
Bu tyou did not answer my question. |
rd_kent |
Oct-31-09 10:49 AM |
#173 |
| -
The claim you're making here |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 03:44 PM |
#76 |
| -
Damn, you sure that hole is *only* Optimus Prime sized? |
trotsky |
Oct-30-09 04:40 PM |
#82 |
| -
Thank you, again, trotsky. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 04:46 PM |
#83 |
| -
No, that's not my claim. |
Sal316 |
Oct-30-09 08:44 PM |
#161 |
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'Quite honestly, one wonders where you come up with these statements.' |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 10:17 PM |
#164 |
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"Does that mean the average joe is incapable of understanding scripture?" |
trotsky |
Oct-31-09 08:56 AM |
#170 |
| -
Re: Camel/ eye of the needle |
stopbush |
Oct-30-09 09:28 PM |
#163 |
| -
So could you explain how |
Leontius |
Oct-30-09 01:34 PM |
#55 |
| -
No, I can't explain how to address your strawman. |
trotsky |
Oct-30-09 01:59 PM |
#60 |
| -
How do you determine which passages are literal and which are not? |
laconicsax |
Oct-30-09 02:31 AM |
#41 |
| -
I asked the same question before I saw your post. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-30-09 02:15 PM |
#63 |
| -
It's been stirring in my mind as an OP for months. |
laconicsax |
Oct-30-09 03:24 PM |
#73 |
| -
Do you consider this literal- what do these words mean exactly? |
Amaya |
Oct-30-09 10:12 AM |
#47 |
| -
Read literally, sure it validates bigotry. |
Sal316 |
Oct-30-09 03:44 PM |
#77 |
| -
But don't you see, that YOUR interpretation? Why is YOURS right and anothers wrong? |
rd_kent |
Oct-30-09 03:51 PM |
#79 |
| -
'if one reads it properly' |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 03:59 PM |
#81 |
| -
You Do Understand, Sir, What Low-Grade Stuff This Is You Are Peddling? |
The Magistrate |
Oct-30-09 05:09 PM |
#85 |
| -
Context matters, sir. |
Sal316 |
Oct-30-09 09:02 PM |
#162 |
| -
Serious As a Heart Attack, Sir.... |
The Magistrate |
Oct-30-09 11:39 PM |
#166 |
| -
I've always found remarkable the claim |
ChadwickHenryWard |
Oct-30-09 11:06 AM |
#49 |
| -
Atheists, by definition, do not believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-30-09 11:48 AM |
#51 |
| -
Stupidity is relative. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 01:23 PM |
#54 |
| -
Leave your family out of this. n/t |
trotsky |
Oct-30-09 02:03 PM |
#61 |
| -
Oooh, don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel! n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 02:43 PM |
#65 |
| -
As soon as I get out of your mother. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 06:02 PM |
#88 |
| -
That doesn't even make sense! |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 06:43 PM |
#93 |
| -
Are you responding to #88 or #61? |
rug |
Oct-30-09 06:49 PM |
#97 |
| -
There's that lack of reading comprehension again. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 06:50 PM |
#98 |
| -
There's that lack of basic comprehension again. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 06:56 PM |
#103 |
| -
Aww, he doesn't know what 'comprehension' means, how precious... n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 06:58 PM |
#105 |
| -
Are you ever embarassed by what you post? |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:07 PM |
#113 |
| -
I would ask you the same question, but I don't think you can feel shame. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:11 PM |
#116 |
| -
Maybe not, but I would be mortified to type "awww" as a form of sarcasm. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:14 PM |
#119 |
| -
I would be mortified to know anyone personally who used the phrase 'your mother' as an insult. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:17 PM |
#125 |
| -
How do you feel about "Leave your family out of it?" |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:20 PM |
#129 |
| -
Sure it was insulting, but so was the post it was in reply to, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:22 PM |
#132 |
| -
Oh, the subthread itself began with an insult. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:26 PM |
#137 |
| -
Perhaps, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:30 PM |
#141 |
| -
As evidenced by your post......stupidity ABOUNDS! |
rd_kent |
Oct-30-09 03:52 PM |
#80 |
| -
Where's your evidence? |
rug |
Oct-30-09 06:04 PM |
#89 |
| -
Are you THAT stupid? The stupidity is self evident. |
rd_kent |
Oct-30-09 06:37 PM |
#92 |
| -
I require more proof than your assertion it is self-evident. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 06:43 PM |
#94 |
| -
Only because your reading level is so low |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 06:45 PM |
#95 |
| -
Oh there you are with those people in your head again. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 06:47 PM |
#96 |
| -
Deliberately stupid wordplay doesn't impress me. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 06:52 PM |
#99 |
| -
I doubt any wordplay impresses you. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 06:55 PM |
#102 |
| -
Something tells me that I'll be here long after you're gone. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 06:57 PM |
#104 |
| -
Are you sure it's not your own self-serving interpretation of what it is telling you? |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:05 PM |
#110 |
| -
No, because what I'm referring to is your recent inflammatory and dickish history. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:11 PM |
#114 |
| -
Sorry to disabuse you, but replying to your inanities does not constutute history. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:12 PM |
#117 |
| -
Ah, yes, because 'your mother' was a reply to me in any way. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:15 PM |
#120 |
| -
Not to insult your reading comprehension, but that post was to another open minded poster. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:17 PM |
#124 |
| -
You can't insult my reading comprehension when you don't understand what the phrase means. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:19 PM |
#127 |
| -
Oh? Resorting to caps? Tsk. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:23 PM |
#133 |
| -
I only thought it might help get the point into that walnut inside your skull. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:24 PM |
#135 |
| -
Thank you. It's been very difficult to follow. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:32 PM |
#145 |
| -
Color me unsurprised. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-09 07:33 PM |
#147 |
| -
The proof in in your posts....or the mirror....whichever you like. |
rd_kent |
Oct-31-09 10:38 AM |
#171 |
| -
I see. It's an opinion. |
rug |
Oct-31-09 10:42 AM |
#172 |
| -
Whatever, rug. It doesnt matter, as you pull the "rug" out from under your posts yourself. |
rd_kent |
Oct-31-09 10:54 AM |
#174 |
| -
Thank you for your thoughtful contribution. |
rug |
Oct-31-09 07:18 PM |
#178 |
| -
Sometimes. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-30-09 06:52 PM |
#100 |
| -
Sometimes |
rug |
Oct-30-09 06:58 PM |
#106 |
| -
Do you disagree? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-30-09 07:05 PM |
#111 |
| -
I do. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:11 PM |
#115 |
| -
Of course I don't. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-30-09 07:16 PM |
#122 |
| -
Therefore, the bible is not asserting as literal truth that the number of pi is 3. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:18 PM |
#126 |
| -
Oh, it is. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-30-09 07:29 PM |
#140 |
| -
Didn't say it was infallible on math. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:35 PM |
#148 |
| -
Explain the execution for gays part. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-30-09 07:38 PM |
#151 |
| -
Answer my question first. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 07:46 PM |
#155 |
| -
Why is it meant to be read literally? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-30-09 07:47 PM |
#156 |
| -
Your question was answered by another in #77. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 08:02 PM |
#158 |
| -
No, it wasn't. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-30-09 08:11 PM |
#159 |
| -
To be more precise, you believe in no God, Christian or otherwise. |
rug |
Oct-30-09 08:42 PM |
#160 |
| -
I believe any scripture calling for the execution of gays to be stupid. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Oct-30-09 10:30 PM |
#165 |
| -
Does it? |
rug |
Oct-31-09 07:06 AM |
#168 |
| -
How does one decide what to take as literal, and what to take as not literal? |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-30-09 01:56 PM |
#59 |
| -
Try reading Origen he explains the exegetical process in I think his work |
Leontius |
Oct-30-09 02:58 PM |
#67 |
| -
If you read Origen, you should be able to tell me, if you can not tell me after reading it, |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-30-09 03:13 PM |
#70 |
| -
Everybody wants the Cliff Notes, nobody ever wants to read the damn book |
Leontius |
Oct-30-09 04:55 PM |
#84 |
| -
I think the point is..why does one have to read book B to understand book A? |
rd_kent |
Oct-30-09 05:22 PM |
#86 |
| -
I am a full time collage student with two kids. I don't have time to read non school books. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-30-09 05:25 PM |
#87 |
| -
Understand time constraints in such a situation |
Leontius |
Oct-31-09 07:24 AM |
#169 |
| -
Its only "christian babble" if thats what you make it. |
rd_kent |
Oct-31-09 01:19 PM |
#176 |
| -
I will consider your post, but I can not promise to agree with it. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-31-09 05:14 PM |
#177 |
| -
SAL316, this is directed right at you. A non-response will be taken as assurance I am correct. |
rd_kent |
Oct-30-09 02:52 PM |
#66 |
| -
A direct answer? Hah! |
Silent3 |
Oct-30-09 03:12 PM |
#69 |
| -
Nov 2, 2009, 1554hrs ... I even missed "trick-or-treating" just waiting for an answer. |
Lost-in-FL |
Nov-02-09 02:54 PM |
#182 |
| -
: popcorn : |
GrilledCheeses |
Oct-31-09 12:01 AM |
#167 |
| -
So, we shouldn't take as literal that Jesus was the son of god, that he died |
stopbush |
Oct-31-09 01:10 PM |
#175 |
| -
Science and God cannot be compared. |
gooey |
Nov-02-09 04:10 AM |
#180 |
| -
Science is not an explanation of the effect. |
darkstar3 |
Nov-02-09 11:09 AM |
#181 |
| -
I'll concede to that. |
gooey |
Nov-02-09 08:24 PM |
#184 |
| -
Yeah, that sounds a lot like NOM. |
darkstar3 |
Nov-02-09 08:27 PM |
#185 |
| -
I read that whole article and he never explained what |
gooey |
Nov-03-09 02:46 AM |
#186 |
| -
you say potato...n/t |
darkstar3 |
Nov-03-09 02:17 PM |
#187 |
| -
Religion consistently gets it wrong then makes excuses. |
laconicsax |
Nov-02-09 03:18 PM |
#183 |
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