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Sal316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 04:32 PM
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2. Read the threads here...
....there's plenty of posts to back up those claims.

I know not all atheists are like that, and should have clarified that point. With two deaths in the family in the last week, I'm not as focused as I usually am.

I'll take my lumps for that one.
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  -On Biblical literalism Sal316  Oct-29-09 04:18 PM   #0 
  - boy, that's a lot of generalization and stereotyping of how Atheists think  wtbymark   Oct-29-09 04:29 PM   #1 
  - Read the threads here...  Sal316   Oct-29-09 04:32 PM   #2 
  - If there's a "deeper understanding" behind religious texts, I've yet to hear it.  stopbush   Oct-29-09 04:33 PM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-09 10:38 PM   #25 
  - If I were to venture a guess.  gooey   Nov-02-09 04:04 AM   #179 
  - Cute, Sir, But No Cigar....  The Magistrate   Oct-29-09 04:49 PM   #4 
  - Scalia and Thomas would agree with you.  rug   Oct-29-09 06:56 PM   #7 
  - Exactly! +10  darkstar3   Oct-29-09 07:10 PM   #9 
  - If that's what you got from what I said.  Sal316   Oct-29-09 08:30 PM   #11 
  - Oh, it's all three AT ONCE, is it?  darkstar3   Oct-29-09 08:32 PM   #12 
  - My Simplicity Of Mind, Sir, Is Legend....  The Magistrate   Oct-29-09 09:44 PM   #16 
     - To the contrary, centuries of biblical scholarship has attempted to ferret out the meaning  rug   Oct-29-09 10:04 PM   #19 
        - Let Us Not Mix Apples And Oranges, Sir  The Magistrate   Oct-29-09 10:26 PM   #21 
           - What you have determined is that the book has no theological value and, by extension,  rug   Oct-29-09 10:34 PM   #23 
              - That's not what he said at all.  darkstar3   Oct-29-09 10:36 PM   #24 
              - Trust me, the Magistrate has little need for your advocacy, Meg.  rug   Oct-29-09 10:48 PM   #27 
                 - True,  darkstar3   Oct-29-09 10:50 PM   #29 
                    - Actually, it is.  rug   Oct-29-09 10:53 PM   #31 
                       - Aww,  darkstar3   Oct-29-09 10:54 PM   #32 
                          - I don't know how old you are but I do know how tedious you are. That is sufficient.  rug   Oct-29-09 11:06 PM   #34 
                             - mmmhmm,  darkstar3   Oct-29-09 11:12 PM   #35 
                                - Bye, Orly.  rug   Oct-29-09 11:18 PM   #36 
              - That Theology Has No Value, Sir, Is Axiomatic  The Magistrate   Oct-29-09 10:50 PM   #28 
                 - Now you have moved to the fruit stand.  rug   Oct-29-09 11:04 PM   #33 
                    - One Must Accept, Sir, That The Divine Exists, And Can Be Known, To Engage In Theology  The Magistrate   Oct-29-09 11:32 PM   #37 
                       - If God cannot be known or demonstrated then it cannot be the conclusion of an inquiry.  rug   Oct-30-09 12:00 AM   #38 
                          - Christian Theologians, Sir, Will say That On Occasion, But It Is Only Lip Service  The Magistrate   Oct-30-09 12:18 AM   #39 
                             - There is not a single theologian who holds that God can be comprehended fully.  rug   Oct-30-09 08:27 AM   #44 
                                - "The likeness is far greater than the difference."  trotsky   Oct-30-09 02:25 PM   #64 
                                   - Perhaps I could.  rug   Oct-30-09 06:08 PM   #90 
                                      - I'm surprised you managed to spell intellectual prowess,  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 06:54 PM   #101 
                                      - You know, darkstar, given you've stopped so many, I'm glad that adage is true.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:00 PM   #107 
                                         - Again your attempted insult makes no sense. n/t  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:02 PM   #108 
                                            - It is truly difficult to insult a dolt and have the dolt realize it.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:06 PM   #112 
                                               - Especially when you can't use proper sentence structure. n/t  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:14 PM   #118 
                                               - Hmmm, that clause looks rather forlorn.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:15 PM   #121 
                                               - A concept with which you must be intimately familiar,  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:16 PM   #123 
                                               - I know. My five children won't give me any of their time.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:19 PM   #128 
                                               - If I believed you had spawned, I wouldn't blame them.  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:21 PM   #130 
                                               - A subject on which you must have vast experience.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:22 PM   #131 
                                               - As a matter of fact,  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:23 PM   #134 
                                               - Lol, you discuss dental surgery with friends who love to discuss dental surgery?  rug   Oct-30-09 07:28 PM   #139 
                                               - What's clear?  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:31 PM   #143 
                                               - For one thing, your writing style.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:36 PM   #149 
                                               - That's just those under-used neurons  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:38 PM   #152 
                                               - Just take care of those under-used neurons, you'll likely need every last one of them.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:51 PM   #157 
                                      - The king of the lame one-liners gets upset when someone does it to him?  trotsky   Oct-30-09 07:26 PM   #136 
                                         - As always, the bullies can dish out, but they can't take any of their own medicine.  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:28 PM   #138 
                                         - Yup.  trotsky   Oct-30-09 07:32 PM   #144 
                                            - .  rug   Oct-30-09 07:33 PM   #146 
                                               - And once again, the atheist's questions are far too difficult for the believer.  trotsky   Oct-30-09 07:37 PM   #150 
                                               - Oh, but check #142.  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:40 PM   #153 
                                               - Yes, you insight is too original and devastating for deluded stupid believers.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:44 PM   #154 
                                         - I'll spare you the couple of days.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:31 PM   #142 
  - I would shoot a bit wider.  rrneck   Oct-29-09 09:50 PM   #17 
     - A Reasonable View, Sir  The Magistrate   Oct-29-09 09:59 PM   #18 
        - True indeed.  rrneck   Oct-29-09 10:10 PM   #20 
  - And where exactly does this "deeper understanding" come from?  skepticscott   Oct-29-09 05:28 PM   #5 
  - The religionists are just flailing at this point.  stopbush   Oct-29-09 06:37 PM   #6 
  - Point well made.  rug   Oct-29-09 06:57 PM   #8 
  - What gives you the right,  darkstar3   Oct-29-09 07:44 PM   #10 
  - You start off with the wrong premise...  Sal316   Oct-29-09 10:32 PM   #22 
  - Ad hom,  darkstar3   Oct-29-09 10:38 PM   #26 
  - I honestly don't understand the charge that the liberal religious enable literalists  Meshuga   Oct-30-09 07:59 AM   #43 
     - What's not to understand?  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 08:58 AM   #45 
        - It is not a matter of reclaiming anything  Meshuga   Oct-30-09 10:02 AM   #46 
           - ...  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 10:35 AM   #48 
              - The only way to know what a liberal Christian is about is by getting to know them  Meshuga   Oct-30-09 11:37 AM   #50 
                 - If it is a poor explanation,  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 12:01 PM   #52 
                    - I think you make that point perfectly.  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 01:43 PM   #56 
                    - This may surprise you,  Leontius   Oct-30-09 01:55 PM   #58 
                       - So what?  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 02:09 PM   #62 
                       - And that is true in the places I have lived  Meshuga   Oct-30-09 03:21 PM   #72 
                          - Maybe we've both just been lucky  Leontius   Oct-30-09 03:49 PM   #78 
                    - The analogy does not insult me at all  Meshuga   Oct-30-09 03:01 PM   #68 
                       - .  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 03:24 PM   #74 
                          - Agree and disagree (about the flamesuit)  Meshuga   Oct-30-09 06:24 PM   #91 
  - Aw man, who turned over the rock you hide under?  trotsky   Oct-29-09 08:50 PM   #13 
  - Hmph,  darkstar3   Oct-29-09 09:08 PM   #14 
  - Don't get down on yourself, man.  trotsky   Oct-29-09 09:23 PM   #15 
  - You might want to unclench...  Sal316   Oct-29-09 10:52 PM   #30 
  - I missed that post.  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 01:17 AM   #40 
  - You won't get an answer  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-30-09 01:06 PM   #53 
  - You're really not fooling anyone, you know.  trotsky   Oct-30-09 06:49 AM   #42 
  - SAL316, seriously, I would like to know.  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 01:47 PM   #57 
     - I'll try to answer best I can.  Sal316   Oct-30-09 03:16 PM   #71 
        - SAL, I appreciate your response, but I find it to be wrong.  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 03:30 PM   #75 
        - Thx for the reasonable debate...  Sal316   Oct-30-09 07:05 PM   #109 
           - Bu tyou did not answer my question.  rd_kent   Oct-31-09 10:49 AM   #173 
        - The claim you're making here  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 03:44 PM   #76 
        - Damn, you sure that hole is *only* Optimus Prime sized?  trotsky   Oct-30-09 04:40 PM   #82 
        - Thank you, again, trotsky.  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 04:46 PM   #83 
        - No, that's not my claim.  Sal316   Oct-30-09 08:44 PM   #161 
           - 'Quite honestly, one wonders where you come up with these statements.'  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 10:17 PM   #164 
           - "Does that mean the average joe is incapable of understanding scripture?"  trotsky   Oct-31-09 08:56 AM   #170 
        - Re: Camel/ eye of the needle  stopbush   Oct-30-09 09:28 PM   #163 
  - So could you explain how  Leontius   Oct-30-09 01:34 PM   #55 
     - No, I can't explain how to address your strawman.  trotsky   Oct-30-09 01:59 PM   #60 
  - How do you determine which passages are literal and which are not?  laconicsax   Oct-30-09 02:31 AM   #41 
  - I asked the same question before I saw your post.  ZombieHorde   Oct-30-09 02:15 PM   #63 
     - It's been stirring in my mind as an OP for months.  laconicsax   Oct-30-09 03:24 PM   #73 
  - Do you consider this literal- what do these words mean exactly?  Amaya   Oct-30-09 10:12 AM   #47 
  - Read literally, sure it validates bigotry.  Sal316   Oct-30-09 03:44 PM   #77 
     - But don't you see, that YOUR interpretation? Why is YOURS right and anothers wrong?  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 03:51 PM   #79 
     - 'if one reads it properly'  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 03:59 PM   #81 
     - You Do Understand, Sir, What Low-Grade Stuff This Is You Are Peddling?  The Magistrate   Oct-30-09 05:09 PM   #85 
        - Context matters, sir.  Sal316   Oct-30-09 09:02 PM   #162 
           - Serious As a Heart Attack, Sir....  The Magistrate   Oct-30-09 11:39 PM   #166 
  - I've always found remarkable the claim  ChadwickHenryWard   Oct-30-09 11:06 AM   #49 
  - Atheists, by definition, do not believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-30-09 11:48 AM   #51 
  - Stupidity is relative.  rug   Oct-30-09 01:23 PM   #54 
     - Leave your family out of this. n/t  trotsky   Oct-30-09 02:03 PM   #61 
     - Oooh, don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel! n/t  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 02:43 PM   #65 
     - As soon as I get out of your mother.  rug   Oct-30-09 06:02 PM   #88 
        - That doesn't even make sense!  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 06:43 PM   #93 
           - Are you responding to #88 or #61?  rug   Oct-30-09 06:49 PM   #97 
              - There's that lack of reading comprehension again. n/t  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 06:50 PM   #98 
                 - There's that lack of basic comprehension again.  rug   Oct-30-09 06:56 PM   #103 
                    - Aww, he doesn't know what 'comprehension' means, how precious... n/t  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 06:58 PM   #105 
                       - Are you ever embarassed by what you post?  rug   Oct-30-09 07:07 PM   #113 
                          - I would ask you the same question, but I don't think you can feel shame. n/t  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:11 PM   #116 
                             - Maybe not, but I would be mortified to type "awww" as a form of sarcasm.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:14 PM   #119 
                                - I would be mortified to know anyone personally who used the phrase 'your mother' as an insult. n/t  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:17 PM   #125 
                                   - How do you feel about "Leave your family out of it?"  rug   Oct-30-09 07:20 PM   #129 
                                      - Sure it was insulting, but so was the post it was in reply to,  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:22 PM   #132 
                                         - Oh, the subthread itself began with an insult.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:26 PM   #137 
                                            - Perhaps,  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:30 PM   #141 
     - As evidenced by your post......stupidity ABOUNDS!  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 03:52 PM   #80 
     - Where's your evidence?  rug   Oct-30-09 06:04 PM   #89 
        - Are you THAT stupid? The stupidity is self evident.  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 06:37 PM   #92 
           - I require more proof than your assertion it is self-evident.  rug   Oct-30-09 06:43 PM   #94 
              - Only because your reading level is so low  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 06:45 PM   #95 
              - Oh there you are with those people in your head again.  rug   Oct-30-09 06:47 PM   #96 
                 - Deliberately stupid wordplay doesn't impress me.  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 06:52 PM   #99 
                    - I doubt any wordplay impresses you.  rug   Oct-30-09 06:55 PM   #102 
                       - Something tells me that I'll be here long after you're gone. n/t  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 06:57 PM   #104 
                          - Are you sure it's not your own self-serving interpretation of what it is telling you?  rug   Oct-30-09 07:05 PM   #110 
                             - No, because what I'm referring to is your recent inflammatory and dickish history.  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:11 PM   #114 
                                - Sorry to disabuse you, but replying to your inanities does not constutute history.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:12 PM   #117 
                                   - Ah, yes, because 'your mother' was a reply to me in any way.  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:15 PM   #120 
                                      - Not to insult your reading comprehension, but that post was to another open minded poster.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:17 PM   #124 
                                         - You can't insult my reading comprehension when you don't understand what the phrase means.  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:19 PM   #127 
                                            - Oh? Resorting to caps? Tsk.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:23 PM   #133 
                                               - I only thought it might help get the point into that walnut inside your skull. n/t  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:24 PM   #135 
                                               - Thank you. It's been very difficult to follow.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:32 PM   #145 
                                               - Color me unsurprised. n/t  darkstar3   Oct-30-09 07:33 PM   #147 
              - The proof in in your posts....or the mirror....whichever you like.  rd_kent   Oct-31-09 10:38 AM   #171 
                 - I see. It's an opinion.  rug   Oct-31-09 10:42 AM   #172 
                    - Whatever, rug. It doesnt matter, as you pull the "rug" out from under your posts yourself.  rd_kent   Oct-31-09 10:54 AM   #174 
                       - Thank you for your thoughtful contribution.  rug   Oct-31-09 07:18 PM   #178 
     - Sometimes.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-30-09 06:52 PM   #100 
        - Sometimes  rug   Oct-30-09 06:58 PM   #106 
           - Do you disagree?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-30-09 07:05 PM   #111 
              - I do.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:11 PM   #115 
                 - Of course I don't.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-30-09 07:16 PM   #122 
                    - Therefore, the bible is not asserting as literal truth that the number of pi is 3.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:18 PM   #126 
                       - Oh, it is.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-30-09 07:29 PM   #140 
                          - Didn't say it was infallible on math.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:35 PM   #148 
                             - Explain the execution for gays part.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-30-09 07:38 PM   #151 
                                - Answer my question first.  rug   Oct-30-09 07:46 PM   #155 
                                   - Why is it meant to be read literally?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-30-09 07:47 PM   #156 
                                      - Your question was answered by another in #77.  rug   Oct-30-09 08:02 PM   #158 
                                         - No, it wasn't.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-30-09 08:11 PM   #159 
                                            - To be more precise, you believe in no God, Christian or otherwise.  rug   Oct-30-09 08:42 PM   #160 
                                               - I believe any scripture calling for the execution of gays to be stupid.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Oct-30-09 10:30 PM   #165 
                                                  - Does it?  rug   Oct-31-09 07:06 AM   #168 
  - How does one decide what to take as literal, and what to take as not literal?  ZombieHorde   Oct-30-09 01:56 PM   #59 
  - Try reading Origen he explains the exegetical process in I think his work  Leontius   Oct-30-09 02:58 PM   #67 
     - If you read Origen, you should be able to tell me, if you can not tell me after reading it,  ZombieHorde   Oct-30-09 03:13 PM   #70 
        - Everybody wants the Cliff Notes, nobody ever wants to read the damn book  Leontius   Oct-30-09 04:55 PM   #84 
           - I think the point is..why does one have to read book B to understand book A?  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 05:22 PM   #86 
           - I am a full time collage student with two kids. I don't have time to read non school books.  ZombieHorde   Oct-30-09 05:25 PM   #87 
              - Understand time constraints in such a situation  Leontius   Oct-31-09 07:24 AM   #169 
                 - Its only "christian babble" if thats what you make it.  rd_kent   Oct-31-09 01:19 PM   #176 
                 - I will consider your post, but I can not promise to agree with it.  ZombieHorde   Oct-31-09 05:14 PM   #177 
  - SAL316, this is directed right at you. A non-response will be taken as assurance I am correct.  rd_kent   Oct-30-09 02:52 PM   #66 
  - A direct answer? Hah!  Silent3   Oct-30-09 03:12 PM   #69 
  - Nov 2, 2009, 1554hrs ... I even missed "trick-or-treating" just waiting for an answer.  Lost-in-FL   Nov-02-09 02:54 PM   #182 
  - : popcorn :  GrilledCheeses   Oct-31-09 12:01 AM   #167 
  - So, we shouldn't take as literal that Jesus was the son of god, that he died  stopbush   Oct-31-09 01:10 PM   #175 
  - Science and God cannot be compared.  gooey   Nov-02-09 04:10 AM   #180 
     - Science is not an explanation of the effect.  darkstar3   Nov-02-09 11:09 AM   #181 
     - I'll concede to that.  gooey   Nov-02-09 08:24 PM   #184 
        - Yeah, that sounds a lot like NOM.  darkstar3   Nov-02-09 08:27 PM   #185 
           - I read that whole article and he never explained what  gooey   Nov-03-09 02:46 AM   #186 
              - you say potato...n/t  darkstar3   Nov-03-09 02:17 PM   #187 
     - Religion consistently gets it wrong then makes excuses.  laconicsax   Nov-02-09 03:18 PM   #183 
 

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