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Tue Oct-06-09 11:53 PM
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85. Unitarian Christians are a sub-set of Unitarian Universalists.

The Unitarians and the Universalists were two separate churches until they merged in 1961. The Unitarians did not claim to be a Christian church at the time of the merger (having been drummed out of Christian circles by denouncing the validity of the Trinity), but the Universalists considered themselves (and were considered by others) to be Christians when the churches merged. Even when the Unitarians were decidedly NOT a Christian church there were still many among them who believed in a Unitarian Christianity, based on a sermon by Rev. William Ellery Channing delivered in 1819, called (oddly enough) "Unitarian Christianity."

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Do you really have to believe Jesus is God to be a Christian?	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:16 PM	#0
Isn't the fact that the entire religion is	sharp_stick	Oct-06-09 04:17 PM	#1
Oh noo!!! Not the smiting!	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:30 PM	#16
I resent the word dude	classysassy	Oct-07-09 12:29 AM	#87
Christianity isn't named after anyone.	brendan120678	Oct-07-09 10:28 AM	#97
Great point	Proud_Lefty	Oct-10-09 08:56 PM	#116
Haha... religion.	LostInAnomie	Oct-06-09 04:17 PM	#2
Yes, otherwise, you are just a nice liberal person	Oregone	Oct-06-09 04:19 PM	#3
All That You Need To Be a Christian Is Unbearable Self-Righteousness	Toasterlad	Oct-06-09 04:21 PM	#4
Actually, that's quite unfair.	MineralMan	Oct-06-09 04:30 PM	#18
You have to believe that Milton Friedman was a prophet.	undeterred	Oct-06-09 04:21 PM	#5
Not if you follow the Jesus that whipped the money changers.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:37 PM	#25
No cracker for you!	DefenseLawyer	Oct-06-09 04:22 PM	#6
What do YOU think? That's all that matters.	TygrBright	Oct-06-09 04:24 PM	#7
I'd say you have to believe Jesus is the son of God, died as a sacrifice for your sins, and most	TheKentuckian	Oct-06-09 04:25 PM	#8
Well thought answer.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:32 PM	#21
No, that's fundamentalist doctrine. "Bible believing Christians" and the like.	JackRiddler	Oct-06-09 04:34 PM	#22
That's an interesting take	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:50 PM	#34
True Christians also don't put sugar on their porridge. n/t	trotsky	Oct-06-09 05:35 PM	#48
This is definitely a case of where...	JackRiddler	Oct-07-09 12:39 AM	#88
Why would one call him 'Christ', ie 'annointed', if one didn't believe he existed historically?	muriel_volestrangler	Oct-06-09 05:49 PM	#50
Actually, I think "Christ" is the Greek interpretation of Messiah	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 07:11 PM	#61
Yes - from Meriam-Webster:	muriel_volestrangler	Oct-06-09 07:44 PM	#69
Certainly we have no record of him having been anointed, that's for sure.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 08:06 PM	#70
Because they're not etymologists?	JackRiddler	Oct-07-09 12:45 AM	#89
Hmm...	JerseygirlCT	Oct-06-09 10:04 PM	#78
Sorry if this makes me a s***-starter	darkstar3	Oct-06-09 10:07 PM	#79
Substitutionary atonement.	JerseygirlCT	Oct-06-09 10:12 PM	#80
Hmm...	darkstar3	Oct-06-09 10:21 PM	#81
Raised R. Catholic	JerseygirlCT	Oct-07-09 03:19 PM	#105
If jesus was resurrected, then where is he?	rd_kent	Oct-07-09 11:38 AM	#99
Well, Christians are taught to look for him	JerseygirlCT	Oct-07-09 07:33 PM	#110
Google "ascension of jesus"	Zebedeo	Oct-13-09 06:49 PM	#119
The doctrine of substitutionary atonement wasn't a part of the faith	Critters2	Oct-07-09 12:59 AM	#91
+1 nt	Critters2	Oct-07-09 12:52 AM	#90
make that +2	54anickel	Oct-10-09 09:35 PM	#117
Uh, you might want to check that out	Zebedeo	Oct-13-09 06:42 PM	#118
I don't believe that was the "Good News" being proclaimed by Jesus...	54anickel	Oct-13-09 09:15 PM	#120
The Good News	Zebedeo	Oct-13-09 11:23 PM	#122
So what do you do with it now? You've been reconciled to God through Christ - what a	54anickel	Oct-14-09 09:03 AM	#123
Believers should	Zebedeo	Oct-14-09 01:07 PM	#124
"God's purposes on Earth?"	54anickel	Oct-14-09 06:12 PM	#125
God's purposes are for us to love one another	Zebedeo	Oct-14-09 09:45 PM	#126
Now that sounds a bit different than your earlier post about your accepting	54anickel	Oct-14-09 10:43 PM	#127
Not sure where you are seeing a contradiction	Zebedeo	Oct-15-09 12:48 AM	#128
So is that the only way to the Kingdom of God? And does the Kingdom of God only refer to	54anickel	Oct-15-09 06:47 AM	#129
I rarely wonder which Jesus himself would prefer	bunkerbuster1	Oct-06-09 04:25 PM	#9
Constantine	AllentownJake	Oct-06-09 04:27 PM	#10
The Roman state never lacked official gods, & at the time of the empire, the emperor was typically	struggle4progress	Oct-06-09 05:27 PM	#46
Nah, you don't even have to think he existed.	JackRiddler	Oct-06-09 04:27 PM	#11
I'm pretty sure he existed	AllentownJake	Oct-06-09 04:29 PM	#14
Agree.	H2O Man	Oct-06-09 04:31 PM	#19
Sure, the story makes sense but that's not proof he existed.	JackRiddler	Oct-07-09 01:24 AM	#93
Shouldn't this be in Religion/Theology?	frebrd	Oct-06-09 04:27 PM	#12
I guess you got your way, dude.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:40 PM	#27
I see what you managed to do now: choke discussion.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:49 PM	#33
R/T is exactly where this thread belongs...	PassingFair	Oct-06-09 11:57 PM	#86
No.	H2O Man	Oct-06-09 04:28 PM	#13
I have heard that explanation	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:37 PM	#24
Doctrine would say "yes"; I've met some Christians who would say "no" or "not sure".	gkhouston	Oct-06-09 04:29 PM	#15
Jesus lived in an era where heroes were elevated to god-like status	Cleita	Oct-06-09 04:30 PM	#17
Wars were fought over the question of whether Jesus was half-god or all god.	JackRiddler	Oct-07-09 11:50 AM	#100
Some Christians believe that, many don't nt	ecstatic	Oct-06-09 04:31 PM	#20
Hmm. I would think that	frogmarch	Oct-06-09 04:36 PM	#23
Christianish?	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:40 PM	#30
Which God? The First Commandment is vague on just how many there are...	caballero	Oct-06-09 04:39 PM	#26
True,	Ozymanithrax	Oct-06-09 04:56 PM	#36
A description that covers...	Ozymanithrax	Oct-06-09 04:40 PM	#28
Ah, my life as a heretic.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:42 PM	#31
Interesting how putting a thread in the theology section effectively ends discussion	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:48 PM	#32
You might consider this site for more thoughtful discussions	kentauros	Oct-06-09 05:12 PM	#44
Thank you for the link.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 07:09 PM	#60
You're welcome :)	kentauros	Oct-06-09 07:22 PM	#64
Thanks. I should have read further, but I got interested in the topics.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 08:08 PM	#72
There are plenty of cool topics there,	kentauros	Oct-06-09 09:53 PM	#76
No. If you try to follow what he supposedly said and did, you can call yourself a Christian	uppityperson	Oct-06-09 04:40 PM	#29
According to some Christians, yes. According to some, no	Taverner	Oct-06-09 04:53 PM	#35
An Atheist Christian! What a concept!	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 04:56 PM	#37
Then you would probably be a Unitarian Universalist	Taverner	Oct-06-09 04:58 PM	#38
No! Really?	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 05:07 PM	#40
They're actually wide open to all kinds of beliefs	Taverner	Oct-06-09 05:10 PM	#42
What keeps the Unitarians together?	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 07:07 PM	#59
Well that and the fact that they are also the target of political assasinations	Taverner	Oct-06-09 07:21 PM	#63
Oh, I had forgotten about that.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 08:09 PM	#73
If I still believed in God, I'd be there	Taverner	Oct-06-09 08:32 PM	#75
A lot of people can only handle a UU church, and none other.	Manifestor_of_Light	Oct-07-09 03:28 AM	#95
I can think of at least one person	JerseygirlCT	Oct-07-09 08:14 PM	#113
I'm a Roman Catholic considering leaving the RC church for the Orthodox Church.	pinto	Oct-06-09 05:01 PM	#39
The RC is mostly about laws, rules and regs.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 05:08 PM	#41
It's less dogmatic in that it doesn't have a Pontiff. Seems based more on the original format for	pinto	Oct-06-09 05:45 PM	#49
This is really interesting	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 06:58 PM	#55
It predates Protestantism by centuries. Based on original, pre Niceaen, network of churches.	pinto	Oct-06-09 10:29 PM	#82
Yes	JerseygirlCT	Oct-07-09 07:16 PM	#106
Kicking him upstairs Roman style to be a god was the original copout	Warpy	Oct-06-09 05:11 PM	#43
Ok, there's a neat explanation. :)	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 07:02 PM	#56
The problem is,	darkstar3	Oct-06-09 05:22 PM	#45
That's something I hadn't thought of.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 07:04 PM	#57
The Catholics got around that.	Manifestor_of_Light	Oct-07-09 03:23 AM	#94
But virgin birth alone does not make one pure.	darkstar3	Oct-07-09 09:33 AM	#96
LOL - that coffee worship would have you fitting in	JerseygirlCT	Oct-07-09 07:25 PM	#108
Well, don't feel bad - those questions have set	JerseygirlCT	Oct-07-09 07:23 PM	#107
Long-winded is certainly not a problem for me.	darkstar3	Oct-07-09 07:45 PM	#111
Well, as frustrating as it may be	JerseygirlCT	Oct-07-09 08:07 PM	#112
Jesus would never approve the religion that bears his title.	TexasObserver	Oct-06-09 05:32 PM	#47
Jesus advocated the laws in the OT. nt	ZombieHorde	Oct-06-09 06:35 PM	#53
That's not necessarily true.	Sal316	Oct-06-09 07:24 PM	#66
Recommend this wise and well informed post.	TexasObserver	Oct-06-09 07:30 PM	#68
Repent--the "pent" may be also the root of 'think', like "pendere" (to weigh, consider)	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 08:14 PM	#74
If that's what you got from it, you missed his message.	TexasObserver	Oct-06-09 07:25 PM	#67
Sounds like you're a Jeffersonian Christian (a Deist follower of Jesus)...	CJCRANE	Oct-06-09 05:55 PM	#51
Thank you for the link.	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 07:06 PM	#58
Wow, you can even get the whole thing on line	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 07:15 PM	#62
Cool. That brings you back into the 21st Century!	CJCRANE	Oct-06-09 07:23 PM	#65
I am leaning more and more that way these days	Nikki Stone1	Oct-06-09 08:08 PM	#71
To paraphrase religioustolerance.org...	ZombieHorde	Oct-06-09 06:34 PM	#52
Makes sense to me. n/t	darkstar3	Oct-06-09 06:40 PM	#54
I think there is a wide variety of belief on	JerseygirlCT	Oct-06-09 10:03 PM	#77
No. Unitarian Christians do not believe in a divine Christ.	intheflow	Oct-06-09 10:59 PM	#83
Isn't that a misnomer?	darkstar3	Oct-06-09 11:11 PM	#84
Unitarian Christians are a sub-set of Unitarian Universalists.	intheflow	Oct-06-09 11:53 PM	#85
What kind of Christian is Barack Obama?	JackRiddler	Oct-07-09 01:13 AM	#92
He was a member of the United Church of Christ, until he left	Critters2	Oct-07-09 12:34 PM	#101
A mimetic model: that's a choice, not a fate.	JackRiddler	Oct-07-09 12:47 PM	#103
You have to believe what OTHER christians THINK you should beleive.	rd_kent	Oct-07-09 11:37 AM	#98
What if we're looking through the wrong end of the telescope? Again.	blueworld	Oct-07-09 12:46 PM	#102
Thanks for your story.	JackRiddler	Oct-07-09 12:54 PM	#104
The finger that points at the moon is not the moon	tinrobot	Oct-13-09 09:21 PM	#121
Or the turnpike	JerseygirlCT	Oct-07-09 07:29 PM	#109
Paganism by this time had greatly influence Christianity.	olegramps	Oct-10-09 10:59 AM	#114
read Geza Vermes	dcsmart	Oct-10-09 11:18 AM	#115

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