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Wed Oct-14-09 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #93 |
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Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 10:38 PM by darkstar3
 'I wish I could find that guy and thank him for what he tried to do for me.' Methinks you doth project too much, sir. How highly must you think of yourself to make such a statement?  Did you have any real answers to the questions I posed in all honesty?
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| -You have one chance (one question/statement) to make an R/T opponent change his/her mind. |
BurtWorm |
Sep-30-09 02:43 PM |
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Is an "R/T opponent" someone who opposes religion and theology, or someone who opposes this board? |
ZombieHorde |
Sep-30-09 02:48 PM |
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You have a third guess. |
BurtWorm |
Sep-30-09 02:55 PM |
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Whatever R/T is, I really do not think that it is possible to change the mind, especially if R/T |
T Wolf |
Sep-30-09 03:00 PM |
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(look at the name of the forum) |
BurtWorm |
Sep-30-09 03:08 PM |
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Call them a sinner, threaten them with hell, and then tell them about Christ's salvation. |
laconicsax |
Sep-30-09 03:09 PM |
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Here's mine |
BurtWorm |
Sep-30-09 03:30 PM |
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Elaboration |
BurtWorm |
Sep-30-09 03:53 PM |
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Because we're free to choose.... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Oct-01-09 02:05 PM |
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So faith for faith's sake is important to god? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-01-09 02:43 PM |
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Yes, faith is important. |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Oct-01-09 11:40 PM |
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So you pick and choose what to believe from the banquet of beliefs previous xians left for you? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 08:55 AM |
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Pretty much. Yes. |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Oct-02-09 09:14 AM |
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I'm just curious: if you get to pick and choose beliefs that feel comfortable to you |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 12:05 PM |
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Sort of an obtuse question.... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Oct-02-09 12:12 PM |
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You're a deist, then? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 12:47 PM |
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In the general sense of the word... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Oct-02-09 01:55 PM |
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. |
rd_kent |
Jan-28-10 09:07 AM |
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So you can forget about hell so long as your own ass is saved? |
Silent3 |
Oct-02-09 01:05 PM |
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Wow. That's whole lot of hostility you've got there... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Oct-02-09 02:12 PM |
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The hostility is a reaction to the inherent... |
Silent3 |
Oct-02-09 02:37 PM |
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Well, because love is never something |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-02-09 08:48 PM |
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I appreciate that you aren't subscribing to the idea of hell... |
Silent3 |
Oct-03-09 02:08 PM |
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personally, I think the whole |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-02-09 08:47 PM |
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It's a centuries-old question... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Oct-03-09 08:58 AM |
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Yes, that's why I'm a universalist |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-03-09 02:08 PM |
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If god is God, then why create a being, give him free choice... |
damyank913 |
Jan-28-10 01:19 PM |
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For those hung up on atheism as a belief system... |
damyank913 |
Jan-29-10 08:07 AM |
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Are you certain it's not? |
rug |
Oct-01-09 12:40 PM |
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Repetez s'il vous plait. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-01-09 12:45 PM |
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I undertand you clearly. Other words are unnecessary. |
rug |
Oct-01-09 12:52 PM |
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Am I certain what is not? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-01-09 01:07 PM |
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Speaking for Rug |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-02-09 04:42 PM |
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I don't believe there is a god to make a request. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 04:53 PM |
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Your post was premised on the existence of God. |
rug |
Oct-02-09 04:59 PM |
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My question is to people who believe that a deity expects something of them |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 05:12 PM |
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Yeah, that's what it mostly comes down to. |
rug |
Oct-02-09 05:23 PM |
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I doubt that's what it comes down to for most of the faithful. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 05:31 PM |
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There are hypocrites, vengeful and petty people all over. |
rug |
Oct-02-09 05:50 PM |
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I did |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-02-09 05:02 PM |
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Clear from whom? It's one tiny part of your religion! |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 05:14 PM |
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It's all of my religion |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-02-09 05:16 PM |
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Then my question is not to you. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 05:18 PM |
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Nor I you! nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-02-09 05:29 PM |
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Do you find that sort of clarity in any relationship? |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-02-09 04:40 PM |
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'Love one another' is an English phrase approximating the Biblical one, I presume. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 04:57 PM |
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I think God sent that message, in many different ways to |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-02-09 05:06 PM |
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Millions of faithful would beg to differ with you about that. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 05:16 PM |
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I understand that |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-02-09 05:28 PM |
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I would call that "Growing Pains" dude and give him a banana |
Meshuga |
Oct-03-09 11:16 AM |
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No! Don't bring out the Kirk Cameron! |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-03-09 02:09 PM |
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He would be entertaining |
Meshuga |
Oct-03-09 07:47 PM |
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Phew. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-03-09 08:15 PM |
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FWIW ... |
Nihil |
Oct-01-09 07:57 AM |
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Which side of the spectrum are you on, out of curiosity? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-01-09 09:36 AM |
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Mainly visible with some tactile infrared ... |
Nihil |
Oct-02-09 08:35 AM |
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My point in asking the questions was, really, to ask if you thought there were some issues |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 03:28 PM |
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Agreed. |
Nihil |
Oct-05-09 11:49 AM |
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I'm with you |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-02-09 04:43 PM |
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+100 |
Withywindle |
Oct-06-09 02:28 AM |
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Some good points there. |
Nihil |
Oct-06-09 07:58 AM |
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I'd ask them to read the works of Rene Girard... |
Critters2 |
Oct-01-09 11:34 AM |
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Would you be sharing that with atheists or with right-wing fundamentalists? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-01-09 11:48 AM |
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I'd be sharing it with both. |
Critters2 |
Oct-01-09 04:20 PM |
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I think most atheists would not be persuaded by what sounds like a teleological argument |
BurtWorm |
Oct-01-09 07:19 PM |
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That's quite the ignorant blanket statement. |
trotsky |
Oct-02-09 12:09 PM |
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I'd give up. :) |
Silent3 |
Oct-01-09 01:45 PM |
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Planting a seed should be good enough. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-01-09 02:47 PM |
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Convincing Athiests |
geistvomeinzelganger |
Oct-02-09 01:32 PM |
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Someone too young to read is an opponent? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 02:30 PM |
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I'd like an answer to this question as well. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-09 05:45 PM |
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zOMG I wouldn't bother |
MorningGlow |
Oct-02-09 03:22 PM |
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This discussion might interest you: |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 03:30 PM |
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"An it harm none" is the operative phrase |
MorningGlow |
Oct-02-09 04:11 PM |
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I get that, and admire that philosophy. |
BurtWorm |
Oct-02-09 04:19 PM |
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I will say what I think about the subject being discussed. |
Meshuga |
Oct-03-09 08:03 PM |
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I think that makes perfect sense! nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Oct-03-09 08:17 PM |
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I'd probably ruin my chance by making a stupid joke.Probably something about ass pimples. Or penises |
Evoman |
Oct-06-09 12:12 AM |
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Not take it...why do I need to change his or her mind? who cares if he or she is not hurting anyone? |
AuntPatsy |
Oct-06-09 02:20 AM |
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I would tell her about God's love for her |
Zebedeo |
Oct-13-09 10:50 PM |
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And when she asks about the alternative? n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-09 12:09 AM |
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I would tell her that |
Zebedeo |
Oct-14-09 12:21 PM |
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"God does not want anyone to choose to be separated from Him" |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-14-09 01:25 PM |
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He has. |
Zebedeo |
Oct-14-09 09:05 PM |
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All creation cries out to anyone with ears that God is magnificent and glorious. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-14-09 10:05 PM |
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We think too much alike, apparently. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-09 10:22 PM |
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Happens. I feel guilty when I am involved in a dog pile, but two posts does not make a dog pile. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-15-09 06:52 PM |
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Wow... |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-09 10:22 PM |
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I thought you were seriously inquiring, darkstar3. |
Zebedeo |
Oct-14-09 10:34 PM |
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Condescension?!?! |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-09 10:38 PM |
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Sure, I have answers to your questions/comments |
Zebedeo |
Oct-14-09 11:15 PM |
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What is simpler? The idea that energy is eternal, |
iris27 |
Oct-14-09 11:48 PM |
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We know from observation that your hypothesis is false |
Zebedeo |
Oct-15-09 12:34 AM |
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Buzz! wrong. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-15-09 12:38 AM |
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Fail. |
Zebedeo |
Oct-16-09 02:01 AM |
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Please provide evidence of these observations you or others have made. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-16-09 08:16 AM |
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Google is your friend |
Zebedeo |
Oct-16-09 07:43 PM |
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Google is YOUR friend as well, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-16-09 10:33 PM |
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Uh, no, energy/matter already existed before the Big Bang. |
iris27 |
Oct-15-09 11:10 PM |
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“In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” |
Nihil |
Oct-16-09 07:23 AM |
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Terry Prachett is awesome. :) |
iris27 |
Oct-16-09 06:07 PM |
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Isn't it astonishing |
BurtWorm |
Oct-16-09 12:39 PM |
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That's God |
Zebedeo |
Oct-16-09 07:51 PM |
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And he's male? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-16-09 08:05 PM |
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Nice creed statement there |
darkstar3 |
Oct-16-09 10:06 PM |
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Interesting ... |
Nihil |
Oct-20-09 08:16 AM |
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That substitution doesn't work |
darkstar3 |
Oct-20-09 09:25 AM |
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I agree but at that point, their words came close - hence the "if" in my original comment. |
Nihil |
Oct-20-09 09:42 AM |
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Yes. I've noticed that when beer talk turns to religion ... |
Jim__ |
Jan-28-10 09:49 AM |
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Zeb, you are delusional. |
rd_kent |
Jan-28-10 09:23 AM |
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Not delusional; Christian. |
Zebedeo |
Jan-28-10 11:24 PM |
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Looks like you should read #90 again. |
darkstar3 |
Jan-28-10 11:31 PM |
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Same thing, my Friend, same thing. |
rd_kent |
Jan-29-10 11:49 AM |
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... |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-09 11:48 PM |
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Asking for proof is a closed mind? I think you need to seek help for YOUR closed mind. |
rd_kent |
Jan-28-10 09:20 AM |
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Right on !!!!!!!!!!!! |
damyank913 |
Jan-28-10 01:48 PM |
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Additional: |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-09 10:25 PM |
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Ah, so the book of fairly tales that is not only inconsistent but conflicting and, on most accounts, |
rd_kent |
Jan-28-10 09:18 AM |
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Cuckoo, cuckoo! |
rd_kent |
Jan-29-10 11:50 AM |
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So for failing to believe in God, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-09 01:55 PM |
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And she would probably ask you, "How do you know what God wants? Does he tell you this?" |
BurtWorm |
Oct-14-09 10:25 AM |
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It is written on our hearts |
Zebedeo |
Oct-14-09 12:25 PM |
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Is shame always a sign of God's disapproval of our actions? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-14-09 01:47 PM |
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No, sometimes shame has other sources. n/t |
Zebedeo |
Oct-14-09 08:51 PM |
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How can you tell the diffference between God-shame and other shame? |
BurtWorm |
Oct-14-09 11:12 PM |
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3 1/2 months and no answer. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jan-28-10 08:39 AM |
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What of murderers? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-09 05:43 PM |
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They certainly know that what they do is wrong |
Zebedeo |
Oct-14-09 08:50 PM |
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Tell that to Bundy, Gacy, and Dahmer |
darkstar3 |
Oct-14-09 09:07 PM |
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If a person does not know that his criminal conduct is wrong |
Zebedeo |
Oct-16-09 02:21 AM |
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See post #95 |
darkstar3 |
Oct-16-09 01:09 PM |
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They only "know" it's wrong because society has taught them that it's wrong, |
iris27 |
Oct-14-09 10:57 PM |
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I think most murderers, rapists, and thieves know those activities are illegal, |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-15-09 09:21 PM |
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How do YOU know what god wants? Did he tell you directly? |
rd_kent |
Jan-28-10 09:16 AM |
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I have no R/T opponent(s)..... |
DeSwiss |
Oct-14-09 11:32 PM |
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Religious faith is experiential not a matter of argumentation |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-16-09 09:55 PM |
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Speaking as a "mystical atheist" |
GliderGuider |
Oct-17-09 12:21 PM |
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Like others here, I do not feel any need to make someone else change his/her mind |
MikeH |
Oct-19-09 05:22 PM |
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Don't think of others with different opinions as "opponents"... |
Desertrose |
Oct-20-09 06:51 PM |
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I'd say "screw it" and use the statement for something productive. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jan-28-10 08:41 AM |
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dupe |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jan-28-10 12:58 PM |
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Switch to another forum. That would be my best option. |
MineralMan |
Jan-28-10 07:54 PM |
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I don't think I would |
Dorian Gray |
Jan-29-10 07:00 AM |
#139 |
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