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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:39 PM
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55. Ooooh, nice shot, but wide of the mark.
I love how you put the term critical thinking in quotes, as if it's some sort of nebulous concept. I guess that makes sense, since you ignore the biggest contribution critical thinking would have to the situation you're talking about. The human search for reason/meaning/purpose/belonging/community can be found in MANY different places, so church most certainly doesn't have a monopoly.

I'm just gonna leave it at that before I say something mean.
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  -So, how do you create a religion-free society? SidneyCarton  Aug-28-09 05:11 PM   #0 
  - Education...which may involve - for lack of a better word - some re-education as well.  stopbush   Aug-28-09 05:15 PM   #1 
  - Explain re-education please  demwing   Aug-28-09 05:17 PM   #3 
  - Re-education would involve slapping down myths and  stopbush   Aug-28-09 05:31 PM   #14 
  - I would also like to know what you mean by that  uberllama42   Aug-28-09 05:32 PM   #16 
     - I know it has a bad connotation.  stopbush   Aug-28-09 05:46 PM   #25 
  - First I would want to know why on earth would you want to?  county worker   Aug-28-09 05:15 PM   #2 
  - This is totally a what-if question.  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 05:20 PM   #6 
     - Good, I thought it was that.  county worker   Aug-28-09 05:33 PM   #17 
     - Seems to me religion is based on ones faith which can't be eradicated from their minds.  county worker   Aug-28-09 05:36 PM   #21 
        - All too true.  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 05:37 PM   #24 
  - Wish to God I knew!  boobooday   Aug-28-09 05:17 PM   #4 
  - If you wanted to do it here in the US  Coyote_Bandit   Aug-28-09 05:18 PM   #5 
  - Good point.  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 05:21 PM   #8 
  - I would say that is an unrealistic goal.  eShirl   Aug-28-09 05:20 PM   #7 
  - I would agree with that too.  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 05:22 PM   #9 
  - You don't. n/t  Mythsaje   Aug-28-09 05:25 PM   #10 
  - Boy, if I knew I would have done it by now  tularetom   Aug-28-09 05:26 PM   #11 
  - Actually, unorganized religion--REALLY sucks  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-29-09 10:36 AM   #47 
  - Education  dbonds   Aug-28-09 05:31 PM   #12 
  - Say what you want, I consider a good dose of Pink Floyd every once in a while  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 05:32 PM   #15 
     - Hush!  uberllama42   Aug-28-09 05:33 PM   #18 
     - The way I meant it was..  dbonds   Aug-28-09 05:36 PM   #22 
  - Murdering anyone who practices any belief system and all their family  stray cat   Aug-28-09 05:31 PM   #13 
  - Seriously now.  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 05:33 PM   #19 
  - No, thats been tried before. It's nasty and bloody and it doesn't really work.  PassingFair   Aug-29-09 05:55 PM   #65 
  - I think you would have to start a new colony in an isolated place  Chemisse   Aug-28-09 05:34 PM   #20 
  - I think this is a realistic argument.  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 05:36 PM   #23 
     - Lol - yeah perhaps there is a smidgeon of water on the moon - nt  Chemisse   Aug-28-09 06:10 PM   #33 
  - Ask Sweden. They're 65% atheist.  stopbush   Aug-28-09 05:48 PM   #26 
  - Well frankly you don't.  dmallind   Aug-28-09 05:49 PM   #27 
  - Thank you for you thoughts.  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 05:51 PM   #29 
  - Encourage spirituality at the expense of religion.  mwb970   Aug-28-09 05:51 PM   #28 
  - This will work for some...  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 05:52 PM   #30 
     - Back to fairy tales and myths, then?  mwb970   Aug-28-09 05:54 PM   #31 
        - Life is a conversation, those who shout the loudest tend to get heard.  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 06:01 PM   #32 
        - Your method is the one I would choose.  Why Syzygy   Aug-28-09 09:12 PM   #38 
  - I don't think it's possible  moggie   Aug-28-09 06:16 PM   #34 
  - Agreed. As a Theist, I see the reforms you are suggesting as being desireable  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 06:32 PM   #36 
  - I wouldn't want to. My  emilyg   Aug-28-09 06:30 PM   #35 
  - My religion gives me comfort as well.  SidneyCarton   Aug-28-09 06:33 PM   #37 
  - I'm an Atheist, but I don't think its possible.  Odin2005   Aug-28-09 10:17 PM   #39 
  - Can you say Liberal, MO!  RLBaty   Aug-28-09 10:22 PM   #40 
  - The most I hope for is reduced influence of religion...  Silent3   Aug-28-09 10:56 PM   #41 
  - Re: The most I hope for is...  RLBaty   Aug-28-09 11:37 PM   #43 
  - It is incredibly simple to build a religion-free society  darkstar3   Aug-28-09 11:26 PM   #42 
  - I think you are going to have to delineate what you define as "faith"  SidneyCarton   Aug-29-09 01:21 PM   #51 
  - It's actually a pretty simple division.  darkstar3   Aug-29-09 02:40 PM   #58 
     - By your definition, one be a person of faith, and yet be a member of an organized religion.  SidneyCarton   Aug-29-09 05:17 PM   #62 
        - If the words missing from your post are "can" and "not", then yes.  darkstar3   Aug-29-09 05:55 PM   #64 
           - It would appear that both are equally true.  SidneyCarton   Aug-30-09 01:48 AM   #72 
  - I'm not sure how "incredibly simple" that would be.  Silent3   Aug-29-09 01:48 PM   #57 
     - I am certainly not talking about indoctrination.  darkstar3   Aug-29-09 02:56 PM   #59 
  - Easy, you allow it to exist without encouraging it, while teaching critical thinking.  Evoman   Aug-29-09 02:01 AM   #44 
  - Interesting  ironbark   Aug-29-09 03:24 AM   #45 
  - Ooooh, nice shot, but wide of the mark.  darkstar3   Aug-29-09 01:39 PM   #55 
     - Then perhaps the re education and critical thinking camps  ironbark   Aug-29-09 06:34 PM   #66 
        - Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?!  darkstar3   Aug-29-09 09:46 PM   #70 
           - 55# your restraining yourself from saying “something mean”  ironbark   Aug-30-09 04:19 AM   #75 
              - Let me see if I can put this together in a way you will understand.  darkstar3   Aug-30-09 01:25 PM   #76 
  - It's not a desirable goal because it would presume that religious  saltpoint   Aug-29-09 08:09 AM   #46 
  - Fair enough, I would agree.  SidneyCarton   Aug-29-09 01:24 PM   #52 
  - Education with a bias toward the Humanities  agent46   Aug-29-09 11:02 AM   #48 
  - I find your post most interesting.  SidneyCarton   Aug-29-09 01:30 PM   #53 
     - Who knows? Maybe it's because Biologists  agent46   Aug-29-09 08:26 PM   #69 
        - Perhaps.  SidneyCarton   Aug-30-09 01:49 AM   #73 
  - I see no way to get there from here. I am pretty much resigned to living in  Strong Atheist   Aug-29-09 11:15 AM   #49 
  - The only way to stay sane in an insane world is to go mad.  SidneyCarton   Aug-29-09 01:32 PM   #54 
     - I'll drink to that...  Strong Atheist   Aug-29-09 01:40 PM   #56 
  - Kill'm all and let God sort'm out!  TexasProgresive   Aug-29-09 12:02 PM   #50 
  - Stop teaching religion to your children.  PassingFair   Aug-29-09 05:01 PM   #60 
  - Even if enforcable (which is doubtful) I doubt this would be as successful as you think it would.  SidneyCarton   Aug-29-09 05:15 PM   #61 
     - I'm not saying that it should be FORCED...  PassingFair   Aug-29-09 05:19 PM   #63 
  - You don't--you work to reduce the role of religion.  laconicsax   Aug-29-09 06:58 PM   #67 
  - Why would we want a religion-free society?  kwassa   Aug-29-09 06:58 PM   #68 
  - Because religion is lame.  Evoman   Aug-29-09 11:54 PM   #71 
  - It would appear that some here might find such a society congenial.  SidneyCarton   Aug-30-09 01:51 AM   #74 
     - You know that accusation was unsubstantiated hyperbole, right?  laconicsax   Aug-30-09 02:34 PM   #77 
        - Yes, I know it was hyperbole.  SidneyCarton   Aug-30-09 10:20 PM   #78 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-26-09 08:31 PM   #79 
  - That's not the goal.  Deep13   Oct-27-09 11:10 AM   #80 
 

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