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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #47
51. I was right the first time. All religions were founded on the need
to channel violence against one sacrificial victim. Then that sacrificial violence was ritualized, and VOILA! Religion.
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  -"Washed in the blood of the Lamb" ayeshahaqqiqa  Jul-18-09 11:28 AM   #0 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-18-09 11:35 AM   #1 
  - If I didn't make it clear,  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 11:39 AM   #3 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-18-09 11:44 AM   #8 
  - It doesn't sound too appealing to me.  panader0   Jul-18-09 11:37 AM   #2 
  - Nor to me  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 11:41 AM   #5 
  - a quick and dirty response  VAliberal   Jul-18-09 11:40 AM   #4 
  - Thank you!  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 11:49 AM   #11 
  - It's just the metaphor you've already noticed  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-18-09 11:41 AM   #6 
  - Actually, I was going to ask a similar question based on a country music song.  Misskittycat   Jul-18-09 11:42 AM   #7 
  - We may have heard the same song  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 11:55 AM   #13 
     - No, I didn't. I've studied a lot of Jewish history but that never came up.  Misskittycat   Jul-18-09 01:13 PM   #30 
  - It comes from the Book of Revelations  TomClash   Jul-18-09 11:45 AM   #9 
  - Thank you!  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 11:58 AM   #14 
     - Revelations reads like . . .  TomClash   Jul-18-09 12:04 PM   #16 
        - Actually, Mom told me,  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 12:05 PM   #18 
  - Technically speaking, they ALL 'bathed in the blood' of sacrifice.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-18-09 11:47 AM   #10 
  - Thank you very much  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 12:02 PM   #15 
  - It could be a carryover from Roman idol worship--I think they did the same sort of thing, with bull  MADem   Jul-18-09 11:50 AM   #12 
  - Oh my goodness!  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 12:04 PM   #17 
     - You're welcome. IIRC, they'd slaughter the bull and dump the blood  MADem   Jul-18-09 12:14 PM   #19 
     - OK, here's a good academic source for you...  onager   Jul-18-09 12:42 PM   #27 
     - Thank you for a thoughtful and respectful post  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 01:00 PM   #28 
     - The cult of Mithras did this.  Critters2   Jul-18-09 03:07 PM   #34 
  - when researching the significance of lyrics  Mr Generic Other   Jul-18-09 12:16 PM   #20 
  - Thank you for this information  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 12:23 PM   #22 
  - It does sound sinister, don't it?  juno jones   Jul-18-09 12:21 PM   #21 
  - It is sad but true  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 12:27 PM   #24 
  - Eating Blood is Forbidden in Judasim  On the Road   Jul-22-09 06:37 PM   #57 
  - The Lamb is Jesus Christ.  ZombieHorde   Jul-18-09 12:24 PM   #23 
  - How kind of you to find the quotation!  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 12:29 PM   #25 
     - Hmm...  immoderate   Jul-18-09 01:32 PM   #32 
  - "washing in the blood of the lamb " is a concept  left is right   Jul-18-09 12:36 PM   #26 
  - I hadn't thought of the Exodus story this way before  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 01:02 PM   #29 
  - Thanks everyone for the informative replies. n/t  Misskittycat   Jul-18-09 01:19 PM   #31 
  - Oh, man, that brings back memories.  Yunomi   Jul-18-09 01:32 PM   #33 
  - It is amazing who our teachers are  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 07:04 PM   #38 
  - For the best explanations of the role of sacrifice in religion  Critters2   Jul-18-09 03:11 PM   #35 
  - Thanks for the author  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 07:04 PM   #39 
  - It came from Mithraism.  frogmarch   Jul-18-09 04:12 PM   #36 
  - How fascinating  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 07:09 PM   #40 
  - Well, when you worship this as the symbol of your religion...  RC   Jul-18-09 04:31 PM   #37 
  - It is interesting that Christianity's teachings  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 07:15 PM   #41 
  - All religions were founded on death, violence and sacrifice.  Critters2   Jul-18-09 09:35 PM   #42 
     - Interesting take on things  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-18-09 09:43 PM   #43 
        - I know Girard mentions Buddhism in his _Things Hidden from the Foundation of the World_.  Critters2   Jul-18-09 11:40 PM   #44 
           - Oh yeah, the caste system  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-19-09 08:27 AM   #46 
  - All religions are bloody.  Critters2   Jul-19-09 01:40 AM   #45 
     - Perhaps better to say that all people are bloody (ie violent  hedgehog   Jul-19-09 02:15 PM   #47 
        - More that we don't need to be proselytized by flaming hypocrites.  onager   Jul-20-09 01:25 AM   #48 
        - Oh yeah, well if science and rationality is so great, what about  hedgehog   Jul-20-09 01:44 PM   #49 
        - Exactly. All social groups engage in scapegoating--  Critters2   Jul-20-09 04:13 PM   #54 
        - By naming all these individuals you feel okay about hating,  Critters2   Jul-20-09 04:07 PM   #52 
        - Yes, I refuse to let a preacher tell me how SINFUL and awful I am.  Manifestor_of_Light   Jul-20-09 03:05 PM   #50 
        - Your hatred of Christians is an example of the scapegoating  Critters2   Jul-20-09 04:10 PM   #53 
           - They've gotten in my face and hassled me for decades.  Manifestor_of_Light   Jul-20-09 11:13 PM   #56 
        - I was right the first time. All religions were founded on the need  Critters2   Jul-20-09 04:06 PM   #51 
           - I think religion can sometimes offer a means of channeling violence inherent  hedgehog   Jul-20-09 04:42 PM   #55 
  - The Lamb of God  kwassa   Jul-22-09 09:22 PM   #58 

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