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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #132
159. I note that in many areas there are minimum ages.
Minimum ages for sex, alcohol, voting. The same should apply to religion.
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  -Religionism is Bad for The Moral Fabric of Society. Is it time to bring back the lions? TheBigotBasher  Jun-29-09 11:20 AM   #0 
  - "even in the area of medicine."  redqueen   Jun-29-09 11:23 AM   #1 
  - Perhaps, but I'd assume he refers to abortion  sutz12   Jun-29-09 11:25 AM   #2 
  - Gah!  redqueen   Jun-29-09 11:28 AM   #3 
  - Well there's always treating kids with prayer and letting them die too. NT  dmallind   Jun-29-09 11:34 AM   #7 
  - I think so.  juno jones   Jun-29-09 01:52 PM   #110 
     - Yes, he could get cocaine much easier (and cheaper).  redqueen   Jun-29-09 02:07 PM   #124 
  - And don't forget those wonderfully pious pharmacists who won't dispense the Pill n/t  RufusTFirefly   Jun-29-09 02:38 PM   #138 
  - Or the extreme religionists,  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 11:35 AM   #8 
  - Does that involve anyone demanding laws be changed...  redqueen   Jun-29-09 11:36 AM   #9 
     - In a few States, yes.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 12:04 PM   #22 
        - My first thought was that it was shocking...  redqueen   Jun-29-09 12:08 PM   #30 
  - Religious nuts denying women contraception etc.  kestrel91316   Jun-29-09 01:15 PM   #95 
  - "Religionists". What is that supposed to be?  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 11:30 AM   #4 
  - Neither new nor bigoted - just easier than listing pasionate followers of all religions  dmallind   Jun-29-09 11:32 AM   #6 
  - Yeah, it's critical to find a shorthand way of proclaiming hate for the religious.  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:04 PM   #23 
     - ... Not found around here, and descriptive not proscriptive.  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:08 PM   #29 
     - You've given us two definitions now, which is it?  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:14 PM   #35 
     - Where are my two definitions?  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:18 PM   #41 
        - Zeal is not the same as what you are describing  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:20 PM   #44 
           - You are straining at gnats  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:21 PM   #48 
              - I think you need to re-examine the notion of the Venn Diagram.  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:24 PM   #50 
                 - ad hominem again - but I did not make that claim.  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:28 PM   #60 
                 - Now you're backing away from what you've said.  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:32 PM   #65 
                    - QUOTE ME! Tell me where I am wrong. You cannot quote an actual claim that you say I am making.  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:32 PM   #66 
                       - I've been telling you. Are you not reading?  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:35 PM   #68 
                          - Which of those are contradictory?  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:42 PM   #75 
                             - NOT contradictory but also NOT necessarily the same  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:50 PM   #82 
                                - So your real complaint is I was not repetitive?  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:58 PM   #89 
                                   - No, I assure you, you've been plenty repetitive. No worry there. nt  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:02 PM   #92 
                 - All of x may be y, not all of y need be x.  rrneck   Jun-29-09 09:11 PM   #161 
     - Take a good look at the hateful nature of the OP, and tell me you support it.  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:15 PM   #37 
        - Wasn't my first word of response "nope"? Isn't that usually indicative of disagreement? NT  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:19 PM   #43 
        - Your disagreement with the OP was not the tone but the execuction:  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:24 PM   #53 
           - Rather ironic considering how religionism is spread  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:31 PM   #64 
              - Only the uneducated and those incapable of logic are religious?  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:36 PM   #70 
                 - Again with the projection?  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:46 PM   #78 
                    - Again, you are straying from the arguments in the OP.  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:55 PM   #86 
        - The OP is simply honest criticism of organized patriarchal religion . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-29-09 12:36 PM   #69 
           - And the members of the KKK think that they have the truth on their side.  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:38 PM   #72 
           - There is no expression of hatred for religion in the thread . . . but why wouldn't  defendandprotect   Jun-29-09 02:20 PM   #128 
           - And, notably, the KKK pushed the Christian Cross and Christian Bible -- !!!  defendandprotect   Jun-29-09 02:22 PM   #131 
           - Yeah using rhetoric about murder.  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:42 PM   #74 
              - Lol @ God.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 01:24 PM   #97 
              - "Ban ceremonies such as bar mitzvah and confirmation until the age of 21 (18 - maybe)."  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:28 PM   #98 
                 - Religion should be an adult choice.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 01:41 PM   #101 
                    - I disagree, brown seems to suit you very well.  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:44 PM   #104 
                       - Why should Children be  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 01:49 PM   #108 
                       - they have to catch 'em while they are still impressionable and vulnerable  Scout   Jun-29-09 01:51 PM   #109 
                       - Right, because we're all morons.  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:54 PM   #116 
                       - The state should really take all children and raise them  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:53 PM   #112 
                          - The Government bans a lot of  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 02:36 PM   #137 
                       - There is very definite understanding of an "age of reason" at 7 years of age . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-29-09 11:47 PM   #167 
              - The Crusades were "rhetoric" about murder . . . ???  defendandprotect   Jun-29-09 02:34 PM   #135 
     - No hate intended, any more than the label "atheist" is a way to  kestrel91316   Jun-29-09 01:16 PM   #96 
  - Obviously not a new word.....  madmom   Jun-29-09 11:43 AM   #12 
     - You didn't call it bigotry -- I did.  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:06 PM   #25 
        - I can defend myself  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 12:24 PM   #54 
        - So you used a Fox News question mark to hide behind.  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:27 PM   #59 
        - It is hardly sick to suggest that religion is fundamentally bad.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 12:51 PM   #83 
           - I called that faulty, not sick  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:54 PM   #85 
        - You're kidding, right?  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:44 PM   #76 
        - Just calling it as I see it. You asked if he/she invented a new word to express his/her bigotry. It  madmom   Jun-29-09 12:25 PM   #55 
  - Nope - critical thinking classes in K-12 would do the trick much better  dmallind   Jun-29-09 11:31 AM   #5 
  - I don't think so  Bill McBlueState   Jun-29-09 11:46 AM   #13 
  - But only because they were trained that way  dmallind   Jun-29-09 11:51 AM   #15 
  - That's what their English classes are for.  knitter4democracy   Jun-29-09 02:53 PM   #140 
  - "religionism"?  undeterred   Jun-29-09 11:39 AM   #10 
  - Completely -- brought to us by "TheBigotBasher"  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:07 PM   #26 
     - He seems to have disappeared. Maybe he's bashing himself.  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:36 PM   #71 
        - Re - He seems to have disappeared. Maybe he's bashing himself.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 01:36 PM   #99 
  - Offensive.  ZombieHorde   Jun-29-09 11:42 AM   #11 
  - I kinda miss your old avatar image. nt  rrneck   Jun-29-09 09:20 PM   #162 
     - It was disturbing some DUers, so I put on vacation for a while. nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-29-09 09:29 PM   #165 
  - Replace "religionism" with "homosexuality"  anonymous171   Jun-29-09 11:47 AM   #14 
  - Yes silly because religion certainly IS a choice. NT  dmallind   Jun-29-09 11:52 AM   #17 
  - Ah -- so you suggest that homosexuality is acceptable only because it isn't a choice?  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:08 PM   #31 
     - What a weird stretch. I distinguish between chosen behavior and biology.  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:17 PM   #40 
        - No -- you justify hatred toward an entire group that you simply disagree with ...  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:20 PM   #45 
        - I have neither mentioned nor implied hatred.  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:26 PM   #58 
        - I asked you if you agreed with the OP, and your disagreement was with how the ends were to be met.  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:34 PM   #67 
           - I don't show alarm at much in a discussion forum  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:51 PM   #84 
              - It seems that, rhetorically, we have much in common. Our disagreement ...  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:56 PM   #87 
        - "you justify hatred toward an entire group that you simply disagree with"  ZombieHorde   Jun-29-09 04:12 PM   #156 
        - So you are anti-choice.  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:20 PM   #46 
           - anti which choice? I'm anti the choice to impose religion on society yes. NT  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:24 PM   #52 
              - Most of "society" is religious.  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:29 PM   #62 
              - Most of society is a lot of things that should not be imposed on all.  dmallind   Jun-29-09 12:40 PM   #73 
                 - I am reading you at face value.  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:46 PM   #79 
                    - Religion is not natural.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 01:38 PM   #100 
                       - Don't know, I don't speak their language.  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:41 PM   #102 
                          - neurotheology is another religious  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 03:21 PM   #148 
                          - Religion is not natural.  redqueen   Jun-29-09 03:35 PM   #151 
                             - It's natural for humans  rrneck   Jun-29-09 09:23 PM   #163 
                                - Ridiculous.  redqueen   Jun-30-09 05:52 AM   #168 
                                   - Awww. Not as ridiculous as  rrneck   Jun-30-09 10:34 AM   #173 
                                      - It's a tool that's obsolete. It's outlived its usefulness.  redqueen   Jun-30-09 10:51 AM   #174 
                                         - You're right about the obsolescence.  rrneck   Jun-30-09 11:39 AM   #175 
              - I completely agree that religion should not be forced on anyone, but that is not the theme of the OP  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:46 PM   #77 
                 - Do you?  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 01:54 PM   #114 
  - That is exactly where I got it from.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 11:52 AM   #18 
  - Hah.  redqueen   Jun-29-09 12:02 PM   #20 
  - Have any wars been fought over land? Wealth? Freedom?  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:09 PM   #32 
     - It is ALWAYS possible for any bigot to blame anything on their  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:16 PM   #39 
     - Exactly.  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:21 PM   #49 
        - This intolerance is used against gays  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 01:47 PM   #107 
           - Don't act like that's your concern  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:56 PM   # 
              - You are the one bullshitting.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 02:35 PM   #136 
                 - "Religion is at its worst mind manipulation, at its best a form of comfort for the poor."  redqueen   Jun-29-09 03:36 PM   #152 
     - Plenty.  rrneck   Jun-29-09 09:25 PM   #164 
  - Thank you!  polmaven   Jun-29-09 11:57 AM   #19 
  - Bullshit. Religionism is a choice.  cliffordu   Jun-29-09 12:04 PM   #21 
  - And there it is -- the definitive cultural bias unclothed:  Buzz Clik   Jun-29-09 12:13 PM   #34 
     - My use of the word Televangelist and Dominionist are specific.  cliffordu   Jun-29-09 12:28 PM   #61 
  - Well, then it might get locked.  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:07 PM   #27 
  - Is this how you earn your street cred?  rockymountaindem   Jun-29-09 11:51 AM   #16 
  - thank you for your comment  madrchsod   Jun-29-09 12:14 PM   #36 
  - I originally posted it in response to an online article  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 12:15 PM   #38 
     - So it's a "choice" to be bashed but it isn't a "choice" because  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:19 PM   #42 
        - I guess you are fully confident that  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 04:53 PM   #160 
  - I think it boils down to the difference between unity and uniformity.  E_Pluribus_Unitarian   Jun-29-09 12:06 PM   #24 
  - This type of argument is tedious and offensive  tigereye   Jun-29-09 12:08 PM   #28 
  - "the child of a religionist may be presented to the class..."  cherokeeprogressive   Jun-29-09 12:10 PM   #33 
  - That was done to me in high school several times.  knitter4democracy   Jun-29-09 02:57 PM   #142 
  - The truth is that most who call themselves believers are full of doubt.  The Night Owl   Jun-29-09 12:21 PM   #47 
  - Strongly agree with you that we should protect the child's right to personal conscience . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-29-09 12:24 PM   #51 
  - And your plan for that is...?  spoony   Jun-29-09 12:26 PM   #56 
     - Education . . . kids should be taught about free conscience . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-29-09 02:42 PM   #139 
  - I don't think lions are needed...  SidDithers   Jun-29-09 12:26 PM   #57 
  - No, the lion idea is a bad one too.  Rex   Jun-29-09 12:31 PM   #63 
  - Religion in school  heppcatt   Jun-29-09 12:46 PM   #80 
  - Extremeism and intolerance in ALL its forms is pretty ugly.  Political Heretic   Jun-29-09 12:48 PM   #81 
  - That's like suggesting that standing up against oppression and TORTURE is "extremism" . ..!!!  defendandprotect   Jun-29-09 02:58 PM   #143 
  - You can't stop people from having religion if they want it. They tried  Cleita   Jun-29-09 12:58 PM   #88 
  - I was waiting for someone to mention this.  redqueen   Jun-29-09 01:01 PM   #91 
  - If it is the OP isn't looking back at history and is willing to repeat the same  Cleita   Jun-29-09 02:03 PM   #121 
     - That's what I was wondering.  redqueen   Jun-29-09 02:12 PM   #126 
  - I don't think anyone here disagrees with what you wrote.  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:05 PM   #93 
  - I do not support a ban on religion.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 01:53 PM   #111 
     - Yes, we could do with a lot less of it from politicians.  redqueen   Jun-29-09 02:14 PM   #127 
  - I imagine most people...  LanternWaste   Jun-29-09 12:59 PM   #90 
  - Why is evoking violent imagery against religious people not flamebait?  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:12 PM   #94 
  - Apparently mods don't care, as they just shuffled the thread to this pit.  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:59 PM   #120 
  - You should have hired Billy Mays sooner if you want to drive traffic to your blog.  rug   Jun-29-09 01:44 PM   #103 
  - what the heck is a religionist?  NeedleCast   Jun-29-09 01:45 PM   #105 
  - It depends, the OP  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:47 PM   #106 
     - "The definition seems to vary with each person's agenda"  NeedleCast   Jun-29-09 01:53 PM   #113 
  - 'religionism' is an ignorant term. 'Theism' would have done equally well and sounded more literate.  anigbrowl   Jun-29-09 01:54 PM   #115 
  - Religionism was chosen because of the implied ignorance  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 03:31 PM   #149 
  - I can't believe this offensive bullshit hasn't been locked yet.  undeterred   Jun-29-09 01:55 PM   #117 
  - Well it's R/T's problem now  spoony   Jun-29-09 01:58 PM   #119 
     - Where is the hate?  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 02:07 PM   #123 
  - The terms *religionism*  Autonomy   Jun-29-09 01:56 PM   #118 
  - Go back to one of my earlier points I made in this thread.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 02:05 PM   #122 
  - And fundamentalist atheist religionism is just as bad as any fundie Christian religionism.  damntexdem   Jun-29-09 02:09 PM   #125 
  - Fundamentalist Athiests?  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 02:21 PM   #130 
     - not really, you appear to want to legislate nonreligion as the only choice until 21  Lerkfish   Jun-29-09 02:22 PM   #132 
        - I note that in many areas there are minimum ages.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 04:34 PM   #159 
           - what about ethics, or morals?  Lerkfish   Jun-30-09 06:00 AM   #170 
  - so, in other words, you wish to ban religion until the age of 21  Lerkfish   Jun-29-09 02:21 PM   #129 
  - I said that tehre should be an appropriate age.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 02:25 PM   #134 
     - someone with lots of baggage, I see. you consider religion child abuse -- says more about you  Lerkfish   Jun-30-09 05:59 AM   #169 
  - Sweden has the right idea  ipaint   Jun-29-09 02:22 PM   #133 
  - I like To randomly Capitalize My letters Too. nt  Tommy_Carcetti   Jun-29-09 02:56 PM   #141 
  - LOl  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 03:17 PM   #146 
  - Psst--the lions were used by religionists against other religionists.  knitter4democracy   Jun-29-09 03:02 PM   #144 
  - Scoot over! You've got to at least share the stage  Why Syzygy   Jun-29-09 03:03 PM   #145 
  - "Bigot basher"? Oh, the irony!  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-29-09 03:20 PM   #147 
  - I guess you do not see the irony in using the language that  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 03:34 PM   #150 
     - Bigotry consists of blanket generalizations about any group of people  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-29-09 04:19 PM   #157 
     - Have a read of the article I referred to  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 04:26 PM   #158 
        - I think you can shorten your username to the first eight letters.  kwassa   Jun-29-09 10:19 PM   #166 
     - The problem is that you are arguing  Dorian Gray   Jun-30-09 08:46 AM   #171 
        - Exactly, and that's when the original poster's broadbrush comes in  Meshuga   Jun-30-09 10:28 AM   #172 
  - Now that you said it...  Meshuga   Jun-29-09 03:41 PM   #153 
  - It got sold as calamari ages ago.  TheBigotBasher   Jun-29-09 03:50 PM   #154 
     - Hey, there is one logical reason to keep kosher right there. n/t  Meshuga   Jun-29-09 03:55 PM   #155 
  - wild guess: are you an Ayn Randian?  Lerkfish   Jun-30-09 04:37 PM   #176 
 

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