MikeH
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Fri May-22-09 07:44 PM
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| 99. There are a sizable number of people who actually do believe in an evil God |
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Yes, I am talking about the Fundamentalist Christians. Even though they would deny it, they believe in an evil God.
They believe in a God who sends people to hell for all eternity if they happen to miss out on "accepting Christ" in this lifetime, for whatever reason, or if they happen to guess wrong by adhering to a religion other than Christianity.
And I think they would believe that an "unsaved" murder victim is condemned to hell, while if the murderer later "repents" and "accepts Christ", the murderer is let into heaven.
Of course the fundamentalist Christians deny that their God is evil, just like "good Germans" denied that Hitler and the Nazis were doing anything evil, or like some people today (including many fundamentalist Christians) still think that Bush/Cheney are good people, and that torture is something good and necessary.
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 What if God exists? And what if that god is evil? |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:23 AM |
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It's called maltheism, it's lame and it belongs in R/T n/t |
spoony |
May-22-09 01:25 AM |
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I think it's an important question, considering all the atheist/theist debates occurring |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:28 AM |
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Yes and those debates have a specific forum here. n/t |
spoony |
May-22-09 01:30 AM |
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I think this is appropriate for the GD. It discusses a major issue, not a specific element |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:52 AM |
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Great question, I love it. So many of the atheists here argue against God... |
napoleon_in_rags |
May-22-09 02:23 AM |
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That would be Asimov's "The Last Question" |
Fumesucker |
May-22-09 06:27 AM |
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Nah this is more of a Lounge thread............. |
omega minimo |
May-22-09 02:07 AM |
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It's only equally as lame as the idea that God is good. |
ChadwickHenryWard |
May-22-09 12:32 PM |
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If God were evil, he wouldn't have created Salma Hayek. |
Common Sense Party |
May-22-09 01:26 AM |
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But then why did he create Rush Limbaugh.? |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:27 AM |
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Global Warming |
omega minimo |
May-22-09 01:28 AM |
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Agreed, Rush is a methane gusher! Flatulence is a major Oxycontin side effect!!! n/t |
ControlledDemolition |
May-22-09 02:11 AM |
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Was he anywhere near Bldng#7 on 911? n/t |
ControlledDemolition |
May-22-09 02:12 AM |
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for comic relief |
Common Sense Party |
May-22-09 01:31 AM |
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You speak truth |
The Traveler |
May-22-09 01:34 AM |
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But what about the gay population? lol |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:36 AM |
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their god dresses better |
omega minimo |
May-22-09 01:38 AM |
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Lol. Yes, but for some reason he can't squash the spider he created. n't |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:47 AM |
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But he only created one Salma Hayek...seems pretty evil to me |
mitchum |
May-22-09 01:44 AM |
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And one Leonardo Di'Caprio |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:53 AM |
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How do you suppose that your masturbatory fantasies are indicative |
Greyhound |
May-22-09 01:53 AM |
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Didn't god create masturbation?... |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 02:07 AM |
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Hugh Hefner did. |
ForrestGump |
May-22-09 05:33 AM |
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You are assuming there is only one God. The Old Testament referred to Gods!!! n/t |
ControlledDemolition |
May-22-09 02:15 AM |
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Baking a dozen cookies for 13 kids... |
Dogtown |
May-22-09 07:14 AM |
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What's got you worried tonight? |
omega minimo |
May-22-09 01:28 AM |
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Nothing. It's just Occam's Razor. This is the simplest explanation. |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:29 AM |
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Why do you think god is a person? |
omega minimo |
May-22-09 01:34 AM |
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I'm not talking people here. |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:48 AM |
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I'll give you the answer that you may not like |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-22-09 01:30 AM |
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So God is neutral. Are you a deitist? |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:57 AM |
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I simply don't believe there is a god |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-22-09 02:04 AM |
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What if God cares only for the very long term |
The Traveler |
May-22-09 01:30 AM |
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What if everything is happening at once? |
omega minimo |
May-22-09 01:35 AM |
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Or at twice? |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 01:56 AM |
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Hey, I actually agree with you for once! |
ContinentalOp |
May-22-09 02:26 AM |
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We were taught |
knowbody0 |
May-22-09 01:33 AM |
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the great debate of the middle ages |
pitohui |
May-22-09 01:35 AM |
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today the good book |
omega minimo |
May-22-09 01:37 AM |
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Hey, I'm an artist, and I'm *not bipolar*... (n/t) |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 01:40 AM |
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Sadly, it's the most logical assumption. |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:41 AM |
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God doesn't explain anything. |
ContinentalOp |
May-22-09 02:29 AM |
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Gnosticism. |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 01:37 AM |
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God bless you |
omega minimo |
May-22-09 01:38 AM |
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No. |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 01:42 AM |
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Gesundheit, then |
omega minimo |
May-22-09 02:06 AM |
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Hehe... that I can live with. |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 02:23 AM |
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Na Zdroviah!! |
omega minimo |
May-22-09 02:26 AM |
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la khayam.. |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 03:03 AM |
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It's Occam's Razor. |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:45 AM |
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Well, Occam's Razor would conclude that there is no god. |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 01:51 AM |
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No, athiesm has yet to explain how the universe came into being. |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:58 AM |
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There's no need to presume there was "nothing" before a big bang. |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 02:17 AM |
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And theism has yet to explain where God came from.. |
Fumesucker |
May-22-09 06:43 AM |
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Athiesm is just a lack of belief in gods. Athiesm has nothing to do with how the universe came into |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-01-09 03:15 PM |
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I lean toward Gnosticism myself |
Echo In Light |
May-22-09 07:01 AM |
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It's more likely that there isn't a God... |
LostInAnomie |
May-22-09 01:39 AM |
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You are assuming that God primarily cares about this life when rewarding good and punishing evil |
LSdemocrat |
May-22-09 01:41 AM |
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There is actually a sect of Hinduism that believes that ... all the world's a play. |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 01:46 AM |
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define evil |
Oregone |
May-22-09 01:44 AM |
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Why can't God be evil? |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:46 AM |
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What is evil? |
Oregone |
May-22-09 01:52 AM |
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True. Evil is hard to quantify. |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:55 AM |
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Its probably easier to pose the question: Is God not omnibenevolent to humans (or rather malevolent) |
Oregone |
May-22-09 02:00 AM |
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Ahh, and here you stumble upon Gnosticism. |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 02:28 AM |
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So Satan adheres to God's will? |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 01:52 AM |
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satan adheres to satans will |
Oregone |
May-22-09 01:54 AM |
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Hehe... good answer. |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 02:06 AM |
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LOL |
Oregone |
May-22-09 02:10 AM |
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hehe... wasn't it Nietzsche that said he had no use for a god that didn't dance?... |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 02:20 AM |
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Now when I talked to God I knew He'd understand |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-22-09 01:46 AM |
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You need a personal Jesus |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:50 AM |
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Nah. I just need some good weed, my honey, and my dog. |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-22-09 01:55 AM |
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I would love some good weed. |
Dark |
May-22-09 01:56 AM |
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Ouch. No more of those for me. |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-22-09 02:04 AM |
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No, what you need is: |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 01:55 AM |
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Immaculate Confection LOLOL n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-22-09 02:00 AM |
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Bwahaha... |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 02:22 AM |
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The same 'evil god' concept is already in Gnosticism. |
juno jones |
May-22-09 01:49 AM |
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Deism? I'm familiar with it. |
Dark |
May-22-09 02:01 AM |
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no. God is cool. he just doesn't like you very much... |
1 |
May-22-09 01:50 AM |
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Actually, I've been rather lucky. But why do you think he's cool, and not |
Dark |
May-22-09 02:10 AM |
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i'm glad for your luck. i've been lucky too. the God i know is cool... |
1 |
May-22-09 02:50 AM |
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What if God was one of us? |
Lucian |
May-22-09 02:08 AM |
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Well, God was trapped in after Skeeball in Dogma. |
Dark |
May-22-09 02:13 AM |
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There ain't no devil... |
LooseWilly |
May-22-09 03:07 AM |
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Profundity FAIL |
alcibiades_mystery |
May-22-09 02:14 AM |
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Why? Explain to me why a good God is more realistic than a bad One. |
Dark |
May-22-09 02:22 AM |
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Well an evil god would certainly make more sense than the traditional JC one. eom |
varkam |
May-22-09 02:59 AM |
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the phrasing of your argument |
NJCher |
May-22-09 02:33 AM |
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then that would mean we should be serving........ |
Old Hob |
May-22-09 03:06 AM |
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It's the need for the illusion of a God that is fucked up! eom |
asteroid2003QQ47 |
May-22-09 04:47 AM |
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I believe then that the argument would be that God could not be evil... |
armyowalgreens |
May-22-09 06:35 AM |
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Ignore my counter argument. I was wrong. |
armyowalgreens |
May-22-09 06:48 AM |
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No light w/o dark. No pos energy w/o neg energy. No good w/o evil |
Echo In Light |
May-22-09 06:42 AM |
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Wow I just got absolutely mind fucked by a philosophical epiphany... |
armyowalgreens |
May-22-09 06:47 AM |
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If there is an all power being that created heavan and earth |
AllentownJake |
May-22-09 06:47 AM |
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the God that many people believe in seems Evil to me |
JI7 |
May-22-09 06:56 AM |
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There's a great quote from George Bernard Shaw re god |
Echo In Light |
May-22-09 07:04 AM |
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once you understand that man created god. the rest is easy. And it will answer your question. nt |
Javaman |
May-22-09 11:15 AM |
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There are a sizable number of people who actually do believe in an evil God |
MikeH |
May-22-09 07:44 PM |
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It's not God, but false ideas of God that are evil |
Jeffersonian Dem |
May-22-09 08:08 PM |
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you are someone without faith/belief |
peace_to_world |
Jun-01-09 02:46 AM |
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Reality is Impersonal |
The River |
Jun-01-09 06:49 PM |
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What if GAWD didn't give a FRAK? |
IndianaGreen |
Jun-02-09 12:46 AM |
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If you recognize a difference between what is good and what is evil, then why not choose |
struggle4progress |
Jun-02-09 12:54 AM |
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